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Post by baldrick on Aug 4, 2024 18:11:17 GMT
It's time to call it what it is, terrorism. Aided and abetted by Farage, Anderson and that traitor Robinson See I'm now at a loss with all this. It honestly breaks my heart with what is currently happening in our country, and to think of what is going to happen on our streets over the next few days and the innocent loss of life that's bound to happen. I've got my views on Islam, I dislike it..But I do not hate Muslims, and I do not want them attacked or targeted. I condemn the attacks on mosques,any race attacks and the hotel in Rotherham.Setting fire to the building is attempted murder and should be treated as such.But where was noise when the rape gangs of Rotherham were exposed. I went yesterday as I explained, to protest against the government,the police and our open boarders.But soon after arriving it was clear that the far right had its presence there, as BOTH SIDES rioted. The last few days is not protesting, it all out rioting, but is that a shock? This started after the killing of three young babes.The British people have a huge tolerance level, and have not reacted to a complete and forced change in our society due to mass immigration over the last 20 years. We have also not reacted from many..many terror attacks on our people,costing hundreds of lives, perpetrated by immigrants who are guests of this country. But that attack in Southport was the stall that broke the camels back, and our society changed forever... This is the fault of 25 years worth of corrupt, ignorant and irresponsible government policies from both labour and the Torries. Its civil war.The army needs to be brought in as this is going to fast going to become an all out race war, where none of us are safe. Crowds of Muslim immigrants in Bolton move threateningly towards British demonstration today. It sounds like a declaration of war to me.And we know how Muslims are when at war. Are the army going to be on the streets? Will Martial law be used? Will we have a curfew, what about another lockdown? This is Tribal hatred.I fear we are entering a dark place over the few years,all brought on by mass immigration. Have the three mentioned above called for restraint or used their influence to calm tensions? Whatever your own personal views or how much you find the violence abhorrent, this is being conducted in their and your name. |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 4, 2024 18:24:51 GMT
Three charged with violent disorder in Liverpool, so far.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 4, 2024 18:40:59 GMT
See I'm now at a loss with all this. It honestly breaks my heart with what is currently happening in our country, and to think of what is going to happen on our streets over the next few days and the innocent loss of life that's bound to happen. I've got my views on Islam, I dislike it..But I do not hate Muslims, and I do not want them attacked or targeted. I condemn the attacks on mosques,any race attacks and the hotel in Rotherham.Setting fire to the building is attempted murder and should be treated as such.But where was noise when the rape gangs of Rotherham were exposed. I went yesterday as I explained, to protest against the government,the police and our open boarders.But soon after arriving it was clear that the far right had its presence there, as BOTH SIDES rioted. The last few days is not protesting, it all out rioting, but is that a shock? This started after the killing of three young babes.The British people have a huge tolerance level, and have not reacted to a complete and forced change in our society due to mass immigration over the last 20 years. We have also not reacted from many..many terror attacks on our people,costing hundreds of lives, perpetrated by immigrants who are guests of this country. But that attack in Southport was the stall that broke the camels back, and our society changed forever... This is the fault of 25 years worth of corrupt, ignorant and irresponsible government policies from both labour and the Torries. Its civil war.The army needs to be brought in as this is going to fast going to become an all out race war, where none of us are safe. Crowds of Muslim immigrants in Bolton move threateningly towards British demonstration today. It sounds like a declaration of war to me.And we know how Muslims are when at war. Are the army going to be on the streets? Will Martial law be used? Will we have a curfew, what about another lockdown? This is Tribal hatred.I fear we are entering a dark place over the few years,all brought on by mass immigration. Are you worried for the safety of the rioters now ? If you are you might well need to. The wider communities have been more than restrained until now but there will be a point where they'll defend their mosques and, yes, fight back. We'll then witness the right wing condemning this and crying for the police to be more assertive. You also need to drop the rape gang narrative, and learn that this country has an appalling history of systemic sexual abuse carried out in churches, schools, social services homes, young offenders units etc etc etc. Check this too, I don't suppose Robinson has spoken about this: www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/members-britains-worst-ever-child-30143129.ampThese riots began, in part, to deliberate misinformation about the race and religion of a mentally ill 17 year old. There is no relation to what is happening this week and to that tragedy and it's disrespectful to the children and their families to say otherwise. You're being spun Who said I'm worried about the rioters safety? As I'm not, as they have put themselves in the position that they are. Protesting is different to rioting,this is complete riots and acts of violence now. You bringing up about our rape history is irrelevant to this subject, and is an attempt at cheap point scoring and has a completely different context to me bringing up the Rotherham rapes and today's violence. Do you not think that a Town that had 1500 girls raped by Muslim grooming gangs,and had the police do NOTHING about it due to the fear of a reaction from the Muslims didnt have a small part to play in the level of the attack today by some involved today? Again, this was an attempted murder and I condemn it completely, it's a question. But don't you think that some of the family/Friends of victims were there today and saw the opportunity for revenge (in their eyes ) against the police and, stupidity and wrongly against innocent Muslims in a hotel? There is a very clear connection between between what kicked this off,after a son of immigrants killed 3 young girls and 20 years of violence in terrorist attacks since 7/7 against us, and if you can't see it then I'm not going to try to convince you. But Why didn't this kick off after the last god know how many, attacks done by Muslims terrorists? Why did it kick off after this incident, and not any of the others as they were also done by darked skinned individuals and immigrants.If it was a racial reason for just kicking off,then surely the far right would have done it then.. |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 4, 2024 18:44:43 GMT
See I'm now at a loss with all this. It honestly breaks my heart with what is currently happening in our country, and to think of what is going to happen on our streets over the next few days and the innocent loss of life that's bound to happen. I've got my views on Islam, I dislike it..But I do not hate Muslims, and I do not want them attacked or targeted. I condemn the attacks on mosques,any race attacks and the hotel in Rotherham.Setting fire to the building is attempted murder and should be treated as such.But where was noise when the rape gangs of Rotherham were exposed. I went yesterday as I explained, to protest against the government,the police and our open boarders.But soon after arriving it was clear that the far right had its presence there, as BOTH SIDES rioted. The last few days is not protesting, it all out rioting, but is that a shock? This started after the killing of three young babes.The British people have a huge tolerance level, and have not reacted to a complete and forced change in our society due to mass immigration over the last 20 years. We have also not reacted from many..many terror attacks on our people,costing hundreds of lives, perpetrated by immigrants who are guests of this country. But that attack in Southport was the stall that broke the camels back, and our society changed forever... This is the fault of 25 years worth of corrupt, ignorant and irresponsible government policies from both labour and the Torries. Its civil war.The army needs to be brought in as this is going to fast going to become an all out race war, where none of us are safe. Crowds of Muslim immigrants in Bolton move threateningly towards British demonstration today. It sounds like a declaration of war to me.And we know how Muslims are when at war. Are the army going to be on the streets? Will Martial law be used? Will we have a curfew, what about another lockdown? This is Tribal hatred.I fear we are entering a dark place over the few years,all brought on by mass immigration. Have the three mentioned above called for restraint or used their influence to calm tensions? Whatever your own personal views or how much you find the violence abhorrent, this is being conducted in their and your name. Easy tiger, watch it by saying s**t is being done in my name! ☝️ Yes Tommy has, twice I believe. |
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Post by pop up pirate on Aug 4, 2024 19:04:46 GMT
Are you worried for the safety of the rioters now ? If you are you might well need to. The wider communities have been more than restrained until now but there will be a point where they'll defend their mosques and, yes, fight back. We'll then witness the right wing condemning this and crying for the police to be more assertive. You also need to drop the rape gang narrative, and learn that this country has an appalling history of systemic sexual abuse carried out in churches, schools, social services homes, young offenders units etc etc etc. Check this too, I don't suppose Robinson has spoken about this: www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/members-britains-worst-ever-child-30143129.ampThese riots began, in part, to deliberate misinformation about the race and religion of a mentally ill 17 year old. There is no relation to what is happening this week and to that tragedy and it's disrespectful to the children and their families to say otherwise. You're being spun Who said I'm worried about the rioters safety? As I'm not, as they have put themselves in the position that they are. Protesting is different to rioting,this is complete riots and acts of violence now. You bringing up about our rape history is irrelevant to this subject, and is an attempt at cheap point scoring and has a completely different context to me bringing up the Rotherham rapes and today's violence. Do you not think that a Town that had 1500 girls raped by Muslim grooming gangs,and had the police do NOTHING about it due to the fear of a reaction from the Muslims didnt have a small part to play in the level of the attack today by some involved today? Again, this was an attempted murder and I condemn it completely, it's a question. But don't you think that some of the family/Friends of victims were there today and saw the opportunity for revenge (in their eyes ) against the police and, stupidity and wrongly against innocent Muslims in a hotel? There is a very clear connection between between what kicked this off,after a son of immigrants killed 3 young girls and 20 years of violence in terrorist attacks since 7/7 against us, and if you can't see it then I'm not going to try to convince you. But Why didn't this kick off after the last god know how many, attacks done by Muslims terrorists? Why did it kick off after this incident, and not any of the others as they were also done by darked skinned individuals and immigrants.If it was a racial reason for just kicking off,then surely the far right would have done it then.. Why did it kick off now ? There's many answers but the racist narrative that was started by the Tories enabled the likes of Farage, Anderson, Tice and Robinson to gaslight the f***k out of every sensitive issue in this country and elsewhere. Race hate is still illegal remember, but since Musk has bought twitter there is absolutely no restrictions or consequences to any racist content or complete fabrications. An example: 2 days ago a photo was shown of a long queue of dark skinned young men who had apparently been dumped in a northern town. Immediately a huge post of race hate and violent threats ensued, tons and tons of it. Turns out they were queuing for Lazer tag and the business owners had to post that it was a pre booked session. Too late, damage done. Anderson did the same a few days ago too. There is absolutely no restrictions to media or social media which has been used to manipulate the easily lead. As for terrorism, yeah, it's sh1t, but my opinion is that if we stopped bombing the f**k out of countries, stopped funding countries that bomb the f***k out of each other, and stop rinsing various countries dry then perhaps they'd be less p****d off with us. There'd also be far less asylum seekers too. There's many, many explanations ice. None of them justify this behaviour though. The abuse cases in Rotherham were appalling, but there is no cover up now and 10 years or more later Robinson is still using it to suit his agenda. Whilst he holidays in Cyprus. |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 4, 2024 19:06:51 GMT
Have the three mentioned above called for restraint or used their influence to calm tensions? Whatever your own personal views or how much you find the violence abhorrent, this is being conducted in their and your name. Easy tiger, watch it by saying s**t is being done in my name! ☝️ Yes Tommy has, twice I believe. Do you have any links to what he said? |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 4, 2024 19:23:54 GMT
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Post by Icegas on Aug 4, 2024 19:44:22 GMT
Who said I'm worried about the rioters safety? As I'm not, as they have put themselves in the position that they are. Protesting is different to rioting,this is complete riots and acts of violence now. You bringing up about our rape history is irrelevant to this subject, and is an attempt at cheap point scoring and has a completely different context to me bringing up the Rotherham rapes and today's violence. Do you not think that a Town that had 1500 girls raped by Muslim grooming gangs,and had the police do NOTHING about it due to the fear of a reaction from the Muslims didnt have a small part to play in the level of the attack today by some involved today? Again, this was an attempted murder and I condemn it completely, it's a question. But don't you think that some of the family/Friends of victims were there today and saw the opportunity for revenge (in their eyes ) against the police and, stupidity and wrongly against innocent Muslims in a hotel? There is a very clear connection between between what kicked this off,after a son of immigrants killed 3 young girls and 20 years of violence in terrorist attacks since 7/7 against us, and if you can't see it then I'm not going to try to convince you. But Why didn't this kick off after the last god know how many, attacks done by Muslims terrorists? Why did it kick off after this incident, and not any of the others as they were also done by darked skinned individuals and immigrants.If it was a racial reason for just kicking off,then surely the far right would have done it then.. Why did it kick off now ? There's many answers but the racist narrative that was started by the Tories enabled the likes of Farage, Anderson, Tice and Robinson to gaslight the f***k out of every sensitive issue in this country and elsewhere. Race hate is still illegal remember, but since Musk has bought twitter there is absolutely no restrictions or consequences to any racist content or complete fabrications. An example: 2 days ago a photo was shown of a long queue of dark skinned young men who had apparently been dumped in a northern town. Immediately a huge post of race hate and violent threats ensued, tons and tons of it. Turns out they were queuing for Lazer tag and the business owners had to post that it was a pre booked session. Too late, damage done. Anderson did the same a few days ago too. There is absolutely no restrictions to media or social media which has been used to manipulate the easily lead. As for terrorism, yeah, it's sh1t, but my opinion is that if we stopped bombing the f**k out of countries, stopped funding countries that bomb the f***k out of each other, and stop rinsing various countries dry then perhaps they'd be less p****d off with us. There'd also be far less asylum seekers too. There's many, many explanations ice. None of them justify this behaviour though. The abuse cases in Rotherham were appalling, but there is no cover up now and 10 years or more later Robinson is still using it to suit his agenda. Whilst he holidays in Cyprus. He is not allowed a holiday that was booked for the day after his protest demonstration a week ago? Tommy was out of the country when this attack on the girls happened. There is no proof like NOTHING, that it kicked off over here after the attack is due to him or Farge. They are just the poster boys of what the left and media wants to tell us that the "far right" is..They are the boogymen. Them highlighting that fact that there is an uncontrolled immigration problem here, when the whole country can see it is not inspiring hate,nor racist, it's called telling the truth. Or do you disagree? Do you not think that there is problem with hundreds of illegals immigrants entering our country daily? I agree with your musk views, but at least we have a platform that is not Totalitarianism in nature and we can express freely there. I get racist abuse on there at times,as if I post something which is my opinion about immigration etc.. Ive beeng called "far right" just because I'm a white English male and have a none lefte view. Its happened on here also. |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 4, 2024 19:52:48 GMT
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Post by pop up pirate on Aug 4, 2024 19:58:48 GMT
Why did it kick off now ? There's many answers but the racist narrative that was started by the Tories enabled the likes of Farage, Anderson, Tice and Robinson to gaslight the f***k out of every sensitive issue in this country and elsewhere. Race hate is still illegal remember, but since Musk has bought twitter there is absolutely no restrictions or consequences to any racist content or complete fabrications. An example: 2 days ago a photo was shown of a long queue of dark skinned young men who had apparently been dumped in a northern town. Immediately a huge post of race hate and violent threats ensued, tons and tons of it. Turns out they were queuing for Lazer tag and the business owners had to post that it was a pre booked session. Too late, damage done. Anderson did the same a few days ago too. There is absolutely no restrictions to media or social media which has been used to manipulate the easily lead. As for terrorism, yeah, it's sh1t, but my opinion is that if we stopped bombing the f**k out of countries, stopped funding countries that bomb the f***k out of each other, and stop rinsing various countries dry then perhaps they'd be less p****d off with us. There'd also be far less asylum seekers too. There's many, many explanations ice. None of them justify this behaviour though. The abuse cases in Rotherham were appalling, but there is no cover up now and 10 years or more later Robinson is still using it to suit his agenda. Whilst he holidays in Cyprus. He is not allowed a holiday that was booked for the day after his protest demonstration a week ago? Tommy was out of the country when this attack on the girls happened. There is no proof like NOTHING, that it kicked off over here after the attack is due to him or Farge. They are just the poster boys of what the left and media wants to tell us that the "far right" is..They are the boogymen. Them highlighting that fact that there is an uncontrolled immigration problem here, when the whole country can see it is not inspiring hate,nor racist, it's called telling the truth. Or do you disagree? Do you not think that there is problem with hundreds of illegals immigrants entering our country daily? I agree with your musk views, but at least we have a platform that is not Totalitarianism in nature and we can express freely there. I get racist abuse on there at times,as if I post something which is my opinion about immigration etc.. Ive beeng called "far right" just because I'm a white English male and have a none lefte view. Its happened on here also. Credit to you for not biting there. I'm angry ice, and upset like you. If we can't discuss this here without war then there is no hope. Peace |
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Post by oldie on Aug 4, 2024 20:36:26 GMT
See I'm now at a loss with all this. It honestly breaks my heart with what is currently happening in our country, and to think of what is going to happen on our streets over the next few days and the innocent loss of life that's bound to happen. I've got my views on Islam, I dislike it..But I do not hate Muslims, and I do not want them attacked or targeted. I condemn the attacks on mosques,any race attacks and the hotel in Rotherham.Setting fire to the building is attempted murder and should be treated as such.But where was noise when the rape gangs of Rotherham were exposed. I went yesterday as I explained, to protest against the government,the police and our open boarders.But soon after arriving it was clear that the far right had its presence there, as BOTH SIDES rioted. The last few days is not protesting, it all out rioting, but is that a shock? This started after the killing of three young babes.The British people have a huge tolerance level, and have not reacted to a complete and forced change in our society due to mass immigration over the last 20 years. We have also not reacted from many..many terror attacks on our people,costing hundreds of lives, perpetrated by immigrants who are guests of this country. But that attack in Southport was the stall that broke the camels back, and our society changed forever... This is the fault of 25 years worth of corrupt, ignorant and irresponsible government policies from both labour and the Torries. Its civil war.The army needs to be brought in as this is going to fast going to become an all out race war, where none of us are safe. Crowds of Muslim immigrants in Bolton move threateningly towards British demonstration today. It sounds like a declaration of war to me.And we know how Muslims are when at war. Are the army going to be on the streets? Will Martial law be used? Will we have a curfew, what about another lockdown? This is Tribal hatred.I fear we are entering a dark place over the few years,all brought on by mass immigration. Are you worried for the safety of the rioters now ? If you are you might well need to. The wider communities have been more than restrained until now but there will be a point where they'll defend their mosques and, yes, fight back. We'll then witness the right wing condemning this and crying for the police to be more assertive. You also need to drop the rape gang narrative, and learn that this country has an appalling history of systemic sexual abuse carried out in churches, schools, social services homes, young offenders units etc etc etc. Check this too, I don't suppose Robinson has spoken about this: www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/members-britains-worst-ever-child-30143129.ampThese riots began, in part, to deliberate misinformation about the race and religion of a mentally ill 17 year old. There is no relation to what is happening this week and to that tragedy and it's disrespectful to the children and their families to say otherwise. You're being spun You are being very polite with this guy Pop Up |
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Post by oldie on Aug 4, 2024 20:41:32 GMT
Are you worried for the safety of the rioters now ? If you are you might well need to. The wider communities have been more than restrained until now but there will be a point where they'll defend their mosques and, yes, fight back. We'll then witness the right wing condemning this and crying for the police to be more assertive. You also need to drop the rape gang narrative, and learn that this country has an appalling history of systemic sexual abuse carried out in churches, schools, social services homes, young offenders units etc etc etc. Check this too, I don't suppose Robinson has spoken about this: www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/members-britains-worst-ever-child-30143129.ampThese riots began, in part, to deliberate misinformation about the race and religion of a mentally ill 17 year old. There is no relation to what is happening this week and to that tragedy and it's disrespectful to the children and their families to say otherwise. You're being spun Who said I'm worried about the rioters safety? As I'm not, as they have put themselves in the position that they are. Protesting is different to rioting,this is complete riots and acts of violence now. You bringing up about our rape history is irrelevant to this subject, and is an attempt at cheap point scoring and has a completely different context to me bringing up the Rotherham rapes and today's violence. Do you not think that a Town that had 1500 girls raped by Muslim grooming gangs,and had the police do NOTHING about it due to the fear of a reaction from the Muslims didnt have a small part to play in the level of the attack today by some involved today? Again, this was an attempted murder and I condemn it completely, it's a question. But don't you think that some of the family/Friends of victims were there today and saw the opportunity for revenge (in their eyes ) against the police and, stupidity and wrongly against innocent Muslims in a hotel? There is a very clear connection between between what kicked this off,after a son of immigrants killed 3 young girls and 20 years of violence in terrorist attacks since 7/7 against us, and if you can't see it then I'm not going to try to convince you. But Why didn't this kick off after the last god know how many, attacks done by Muslims terrorists? Why did it kick off after this incident, and not any of the others as they were also done by darked skinned individuals and immigrants.If it was a racial reason for just kicking off,then surely the far right would have done it then.. "You bringing up about our rape history is irrelevant to this subject, and is an attempt at cheap point scoring and has a completely different context to me bringing up the Rotherham rapes and today's violence" Are you confused? "There is a very clear connection between between what kicked this off,after a son of immigrants killed 3 young girls and 20 years of violence in terrorist attacks since 7/7 against us, and if you can't see it then I'm not going to try to convince you" No there isn't. That's what you are being told to believe |
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Post by pop up pirate on Aug 4, 2024 20:45:52 GMT
Are you worried for the safety of the rioters now ? If you are you might well need to. The wider communities have been more than restrained until now but there will be a point where they'll defend their mosques and, yes, fight back. We'll then witness the right wing condemning this and crying for the police to be more assertive. You also need to drop the rape gang narrative, and learn that this country has an appalling history of systemic sexual abuse carried out in churches, schools, social services homes, young offenders units etc etc etc. Check this too, I don't suppose Robinson has spoken about this: www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/members-britains-worst-ever-child-30143129.ampThese riots began, in part, to deliberate misinformation about the race and religion of a mentally ill 17 year old. There is no relation to what is happening this week and to that tragedy and it's disrespectful to the children and their families to say otherwise. You're being spun You are being very polite with this guy Pop Up It's the only way oldie. We need to communicate with the people that attended those protests but are willing to listen. We'll be standing next to many at the football. Divide and rule is the oldest trick in the book |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 4, 2024 20:53:55 GMT
Who said I'm worried about the rioters safety? As I'm not, as they have put themselves in the position that they are. Protesting is different to rioting,this is complete riots and acts of violence now. You bringing up about our rape history is irrelevant to this subject, and is an attempt at cheap point scoring and has a completely different context to me bringing up the Rotherham rapes and today's violence. Do you not think that a Town that had 1500 girls raped by Muslim grooming gangs,and had the police do NOTHING about it due to the fear of a reaction from the Muslims didnt have a small part to play in the level of the attack today by some involved today? Again, this was an attempted murder and I condemn it completely, it's a question. But don't you think that some of the family/Friends of victims were there today and saw the opportunity for revenge (in their eyes ) against the police and, stupidity and wrongly against innocent Muslims in a hotel? There is a very clear connection between between what kicked this off,after a son of immigrants killed 3 young girls and 20 years of violence in terrorist attacks since 7/7 against us, and if you can't see it then I'm not going to try to convince you. But Why didn't this kick off after the last god know how many, attacks done by Muslims terrorists? Why did it kick off after this incident, and not any of the others as they were also done by darked skinned individuals and immigrants.If it was a racial reason for just kicking off,then surely the far right would have done it then.. "You bringing up about our rape history is irrelevant to this subject, and is an attempt at cheap point scoring and has a completely different context to me bringing up the Rotherham rapes and today's violence" Are you confused? "There is a very clear connection between between what kicked this off,after a son of immigrants killed 3 young girls and 20 years of violence in terrorist attacks since 7/7 against us, and if you can't see it then I'm not going to try to convince you" No there isn't. That's what you are being told to believe So using that reasoning aren't you also being told what to believe given the fluent movement of information? Isn't it up to each individual to gauge what's right and Wrong? |
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Post by oldie on Aug 4, 2024 20:54:24 GMT
You are being very polite with this guy Pop Up It's the only way oldie. We need to communicate with the people that attended those protests but are willing to listen. We'll be standing next to many at the football. Divide and rule is the oldest trick in the book I don't disagree, if a reasoned conversation can be had. But judging by the posts on here, reason and logic are in very short supply for the most vociferous anti Muslim sentiments expressed on here. No amount of mealy mouthed condemnation of the appalling violence and attempted murder changes the truth. |
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Post by oldie on Aug 4, 2024 21:03:11 GMT
"You bringing up about our rape history is irrelevant to this subject, and is an attempt at cheap point scoring and has a completely different context to me bringing up the Rotherham rapes and today's violence" Are you confused? "There is a very clear connection between between what kicked this off,after a son of immigrants killed 3 young girls and 20 years of violence in terrorist attacks since 7/7 against us, and if you can't see it then I'm not going to try to convince you" No there isn't. That's what you are being told to believe So using that reasoning aren't you also being told what to believe given the fluent movement of information? Isn't it up to each individual to gauge what's right and Wrong? Unlike you I do not pretend to know what caused a young man to lose his mind and kill those children. Unlike you I do not presume he did this because he was a UK national born of Immigrant parents. Unlike you I do not presume that one particular variety of the God Delusion was a casual factor. Unlike you I would not dream of attending one of these violent acts of domestic terrorism. Unlike you I would not be so deluded to kid myself that by so doing I am "supporting my country". It's utterly laughable. Except it's not. By chance and brave policing, nobody has died. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 4, 2024 21:22:42 GMT
Tonight so called 'protestors' tried to set fire to a hotel/hostel with people inside it.
That is not protest, that is not the behaviour of normal human beings, that is attempted murder.
If someone feels they can justify that because people have a 'grievance', I'm sorry but you really do have to sit down and think about what motivates your thoughts processes.
If it is social media then you really do need to try and come off it and engage with the real world.
If politicians support this action then you really do need to stop listening to them.
No grievance is worth attempting to murder someone.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 4, 2024 21:33:12 GMT
So using that reasoning aren't you also being told what to believe given the fluent movement of information? Isn't it up to each individual to gauge what's right and Wrong? Unlike you I do not pretend to know what caused a young man to lose his mind and kill those children. Unlike you I do not presume he did this because he was a UK national born of Immigrant parents. Unlike you I do not presume that one particular variety of the God Delusion was a casual factor. Unlike you I would not dream of attending one of these violent acts of domestic terrorism. Unlike you I would not be so deluded to kid myself that by so doing I am "supporting my country". It's utterly laughable. Except it's not. By chance and brave policing, nobody has died. See I got to you there didn't I... 👍 As it's the truth, thus the reason you acted that way,and then went on that little attack ( FOR NO REASON btw 💅)..🏳️🤡😂 BULLY. Mr Accuser , go take a deep breath, have a cup of Horlick's and continue to stick pins in your pet, Trump, Voodoo doll. See unlike YOU....I would be willing to give the answer to a question if I had accused another person of doing something that I thought they had, instead of ignoring the question many times like an arrogant  . Anyway,once again, Off where you can f**k. |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 4, 2024 21:35:05 GMT
Tonight so called 'protestors' tried to set fire to a hotel/hostel with people inside it. That is not protest, that is not the behaviour of normal human beings, that is attempted murder. If someone feels they can justify that because people have a 'grievance', I'm sorry but you really do have to sit down and think about what motivates your thoughts processes. If it is social media then you really do need to try and come off it and engage with the real world. If politicians support this action then you really do need to stop listening to them. No grievance is worth attempting to murder someone. Is this aimed at me? |
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Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 4, 2024 21:45:57 GMT
Tonight so called 'protestors' tried to set fire to a hotel/hostel with people inside it. That is not protest, that is not the behaviour of normal human beings, that is attempted murder. If someone feels they can justify that because people have a 'grievance', I'm sorry but you really do have to sit down and think about what motivates your thoughts processes. If it is social media then you really do need to try and come off it and engage with the real world. If politicians support this action then you really do need to stop listening to them. No grievance is worth attempting to murder someone. Is this aimed at me? No, it's just my personal feeling that no one can justify attempted murder, which these thugs tried today. I have never understood the concept of hatred and can honestly say I have never hated anyone in my life. If you feel you can justify it, then please do and I will try to get my head around it. But no its nothing to do with you and again I don't get why you think it is. |
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