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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2024 10:31:49 GMT
How do you know he is an Islamic extremist? Lord have mercy.. I thought his family were Rwandan Christians? |
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 31, 2024 8:41:39 GMT
I very rarely post or read this section. But ffs. An Islamic extremist murders 3 innocent children. But this is not terror related? What else would his motive have been? The initial anger was driven by mis-information that the murderer was an asylum seeker. The truth of the matter is the murderer was an Islamic extremist. Which leads to exactly the same degree of anger. Abusing the Police and causing public damage is totally unacceptable. But the anger is understandable. How do you know he is an Islamic extremist? Maybe he's more of a moderate Muslim. The proper extremists do things like blow up 22 children at an Ariane Grande concert. |
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Post by baldrick on Oct 31, 2024 10:10:52 GMT
How do you know he is an Islamic extremist? Maybe he's more of a moderate Muslim. The proper extremists do things like blow up 22 children at an Ariane Grande concert. His religion isn't known, his family background is Christian. Anything else is supposition at this stage. |
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Post by Icegas on Oct 31, 2024 10:32:27 GMT
Maybe he's more of a moderate Muslim. The proper extremists do things like blow up 22 children at an Ariane Grande concert. His religion isn't known, his family background is Christian. Anything else is supposition at this stage. Come on Balrick..😅 You,me and everyone else on here knows the score.. and you are far from stupid!👍 What your saying is like having photographic proof that your wife is cheating on you, yet not confronting her about it yet! While you would have had a point in July saying this, after the police statement a few days ago.. ( Which was calculated, and very much planned/forced ) the outcome is obvious. While I obviously understand the courts have a process to follow.. why cant we on here be real, and say it as we now...ALL SHOULD know what this terrorist is? |
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Post by baldrick on Oct 31, 2024 10:41:48 GMT
His religion isn't known, his family background is Christian. Anything else is supposition at this stage. Come on Balrick..😅 You,me and everyone else on here knows the score.. and you are far from stupid!👍 What your saying is like having photographic proof that your wife is cheating on you, yet not confronting her about it yet! While you would have had a point in July saying this, after the police statement a few days ago.. ( Which was calculated, and very much planned/forced ) the outcome is obvious. While I obviously understand the courts have a process to follow.. why cant we on here be real, and say it as we now...ALL SHOULD know what this terrorist is? You believe he is a Muslim convert and did this after being radicalised by Al Qaeda. Fair enough, although your analogy doesn't work. 😘 |
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Post by Icegas on Oct 31, 2024 11:29:04 GMT
Come on Balrick..😅 You,me and everyone else on here knows the score.. and you are far from stupid!👍 What your saying is like having photographic proof that your wife is cheating on you, yet not confronting her about it yet! While you would have had a point in July saying this, after the police statement a few days ago.. ( Which was calculated, and very much planned/forced ) the outcome is obvious. While I obviously understand the courts have a process to follow.. why cant we on here be real, and say it as we now...ALL SHOULD know what this terrorist is? You believe he is a Muslim convert and did this after being radicalised by Al Qaeda. Fair enough, although your analogy doesn't work. 😘 I never said any of that, you just did. I previously said you weren't stupid...where can I claim a refund? |
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Post by baldrick on Oct 31, 2024 11:43:43 GMT
You believe he is a Muslim convert and did this after being radicalised by Al Qaeda. Fair enough, although your analogy doesn't work. 😘 I never said any of that, you just did. I previously said you weren't stupid...where can I claim a refund? Okay, let's start again. Do you think he was a Muslim? |
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Post by Icegas on Oct 31, 2024 11:47:34 GMT
I never said any of that, you just did. I previously said you weren't stupid...where can I claim a refund? Okay, let's start again. Do you think he was a Muslim? That has yet to be proved..😘 |
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Post by baldrick on Oct 31, 2024 11:50:06 GMT
Okay, let's start again. Do you think he was a Muslim? That has yet to be proved..😘 But is that what you think? |
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Post by Icegas on Oct 31, 2024 12:10:22 GMT
That has yet to be proved..😘 But is that what you think? He was radicalised...mentally unwell, and was probably influenced by something online.To the point where he killed 3 girls,and wanted to kill anyone of us on here if able by using the other material that he had, and also tried to seek. Who else uses this in their normal attacks in the last 30 years? He was radicalised.. this normally percentage wise at least, in this country come from the suggestion you indicated. I'm not going to continue with this,only for you to in someway try to bait me into saying something there's no proof of yet. But my answer is the same belief that you hold, and that this was a terrorist attack. |
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Post by baldrick on Oct 31, 2024 12:14:29 GMT
But is that what you think? He was radicalised...mentally unwell, and was probably influenced by something online.To the point where he killed 3 girls,and wanted to kill anyone of us on here if able by using the other material that he had, and also tried to seek. Who else uses this in their normal attacks in the last 30 years? He was radicalised.. this normally percentage wise at least, in this country come from the suggestion you indicated. I'm not going to continue with this,only for you to in someway try to bait me into saying something there's no proof of yet. But my answer is the same belief that you hold, and that this terrorist attack. On that we can probably agree. |
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 31, 2024 12:56:32 GMT
Interesting that this information was put in the public domain the same day as the £40 billion tax hike budget from Rachel Thieves.
A good day to bury bad news.
Don't worry though folks, there will be plenty of more of these days to come. Plenty of bad news needs burying.
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Post by Icegas on Oct 31, 2024 13:09:34 GMT
Interesting that this information was put in the public domain the same day as the £40 billion tax hike budget from Rachel Thieves. A good day to bury bad news. Don't worry though folks, there will be plenty of more of these days to come. Plenty of bad news needs burying. It's very telling that they released it a day after Tommy Robinson was jailed,a few before the Budget and Trump day next week. You've got to be blind not to understand how they are trying to get this news lost in the mix! |
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 2, 2024 6:04:39 GMT
Girl, 13, stabbed and six held on attempted murder..by Pritti Mistry, BBC Newsi.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/11/01/21/91568229-14030871-Detective_Superintendent_Simon_Vickers_who_is_leading_the_invest-a-45_1730497214596.jpgA 13-year-old girl has been stabbed and six teenagers arrested on suspicion of attempted murder. Humberside Police said she was found at the side of the A63 dual carriageway in Hessle at about 7am. She suffered "lacerations" to her neck, chest and abdomen and her injuries are "life-threatening", the force said. Four boys aged 14, 15, 16 and 17, and two girls aged 14 and 15 were arrested soon after in a wooded area nearby. Det Supt Simon Vickers said he believed the attackers knew the victim, who is in a critical condition in hospital. “I understand this incident will rightly cause concerns amongst the community and I would like to offer my assurances that as a part of our initial investigation we have six individuals in custody who are all being questioned by detectives," he said. “At this time, we do believe the attackers knew the victim and inquiries are ongoing to establish the circumstances around the incident." Det Supt Vickers thanked those who helped the seriously injured teenager on the side of the road before emergency services arrived. Searches took place in an area near the Hull Humber View Hotel in North Ferriby, near Hessle. The force has appealed for anyone with information, particularly those who have dashcam or CCTV footage, to contact police. A cordon has been put up around the wooded area off Ferriby High Road.
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Post by baselswh on Nov 2, 2024 7:08:35 GMT
Girl, 13, stabbed and six held on attempted murder..by Pritti Mistry, BBC Newsi.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/11/01/21/91568229-14030871-Detective_Superintendent_Simon_Vickers_who_is_leading_the_invest-a-45_1730497214596.jpgA 13-year-old girl has been stabbed and six teenagers arrested on suspicion of attempted murder. Humberside Police said she was found at the side of the A63 dual carriageway in Hessle at about 7am. She suffered "lacerations" to her neck, chest and abdomen and her injuries are "life-threatening", the force said. Four boys aged 14, 15, 16 and 17, and two girls aged 14 and 15 were arrested soon after in a wooded area nearby. Det Supt Simon Vickers said he believed the attackers knew the victim, who is in a critical condition in hospital. “I understand this incident will rightly cause concerns amongst the community and I would like to offer my assurances that as a part of our initial investigation we have six individuals in custody who are all being questioned by detectives," he said. “At this time, we do believe the attackers knew the victim and inquiries are ongoing to establish the circumstances around the incident." Det Supt Vickers thanked those who helped the seriously injured teenager on the side of the road before emergency services arrived. Searches took place in an area near the Hull Humber View Hotel in North Ferriby, near Hessle. The force has appealed for anyone with information, particularly those who have dashcam or CCTV footage, to contact police. A cordon has been put up around the wooded area off Ferriby High Road. 6 held on suspicion of attempted murder. 6! I assume they'll be a leader or two within this 6. All older than the victim. Evil ,that might yet turn into a murder investigation. Weak Governments. Weak Law. Weak Police. Under funded social services. A weak stupid nation. We must be. |
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Post by aghast on Nov 2, 2024 8:12:09 GMT
You're blaming the Labour government, in power for four months, for this?
Righto.
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Post by baselswh on Nov 2, 2024 8:36:08 GMT
You're blaming the Labour government, in power for four months, for this? Righto. Edited. |
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 2, 2024 9:46:09 GMT
I never said any of that, you just did. I previously said you weren't stupid...where can I claim a refund? Okay, let's start again. Do you think he was a Muslim? Oooh. Can I have a go at answering this one? The murderer of 3 small girls was found in possession of a PDF file that was "not an Al-Qaeda document but rather a military study of a manual made by the Islamist terror organisation". I think it is highly likely to conclude he is a Muslim. Though as per usual the religion of this child killer has not been put in the public domain. I wonder why? He is a practicing Christian. OK. He is a practicing Sikh. OK. He is a practicing Hindu. OK. He is a practicing Muslim. No! Don't put that out. The mob will be back protesting and we'll have to lock up hundreds of people who write stupid things on facebook and the prisons are already full ffs! Supress the information. No motive for the atrocity has been put forward. I think (I don't KNOW) that the motive is exactly the same as the many atrocities perpetrated by extreme Islam. Jihad. |
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 3, 2024 22:14:25 GMT
Family of murdered 'good Samaritan' Alan Geddes seeks damages..by Louise Hosie and Ken Banks, BBC Scotland
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Alan Geddes was stabbed 40 times by Stuart QuinnRelatives of a "good Samaritan" murdered by a man who was only released from jail the day before are taking legal action against a number of authorities. Father-of-one Alan Geddes, 56, was stabbed 40 times by Stuart Quinn after letting him stay in his home in Aberdeen in December 2019. Quinn had gone to a homeless unit after his release only to find it was shut, before being taken in by Mr Geddes. Quinn was jailed for a minimum of 18 years for the murder. Relatives of the victim are now pursuing a damages case in the Court of Session against the Scottish Prison Service, the Scottish government, NHS Grampian, Aberdeen City Council and the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service. Last year, the Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland concluded that the death of Mr Geddes may have been prevented had Quinn been offered accommodation when he left prison. Quinn was said to be "upset and crying" on his release and was due to receive help for personal issues. He later met Mr Geddes, who previously worked in offshore life support, and they got talking. Mr Geddes offered to pay for Quinn to stay at a hotel, but it was full. He allowed Quinn into his flat in the city's Ruthrieston Crescent. One resident later heard Quinn yelling: "Call the police, there's been a killing." Mr Geddes was lying at the bottom of stairs. He suffered "multiple and significant" injuries. Police arrived to find Quinn clutching a knife, which he threw down, and admitted what he had done. i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/article30289016.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/0_Stuart-Quinn-Police-ScotlandPA.jpgStuart Quinn had been released from prison the day beforeThe Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland investigated the circumstances leading up to the killing. The anonymised report found that Quinn, who was referred to as Mr TU, had four relatively brief admissions to psychiatric hospital between March and June 2018, when he was 32, and was diagnosed with drug-induced psychosis. On each admission, he presented with paranoid delusional beliefs and was detained under the Mental Health Act. Quinn spent most of 2019 in prison, and that December he was released by a court with no support package in place and no accommodation. The report said there was no certainty that further violence from Quinn could have been prevented. The Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service said a fatal accident inquiry would not be held. The family is now pursuing legal action. Sandra Geddes, the sister of the victim, said she was determined to keep fighting on behalf of her brother. "It’s been a rollercoaster of trying to find answers," she told BBC Scotland News. "When I started to hear about Quinn I knew there were things that needed to come out - that it was wrong what happened. "There’s no blame here. It’s about recognising the mistakes that were made and saying yes, the mistakes were made, and this is what we are doing. "The only way I now feel I can get some accountability is through court action." She added: "Alan would have been right behind me - that’s how I will keep going.”
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 4, 2024 16:59:45 GMT
He was radicalised...mentally unwell, and was probably influenced by something online.To the point where he killed 3 girls,and wanted to kill anyone of us on here if able by using the other material that he had, and also tried to seek. Who else uses this in their normal attacks in the last 30 years? He was radicalised.. this normally percentage wise at least, in this country come from the suggestion you indicated. I'm not going to continue with this,only for you to in someway try to bait me into saying something there's no proof of yet. But my answer is the same belief that you hold, and that this terrorist attack. On that we can probably agree. So we are agreed that the killing of the three young girls is very likely to be a terrorist attack? Perhaps we all have an IQ in triple digits. But the Police (who are supposed to be impartial) are being influenced (one wonders by who?) to state that this is not a terror related incident. Despite the fact that the arrested man had a PDF military study of a manual made by an Islamist terror organisation. Right. Gotcha. This lunatic is an 'alleged Islamic extremist', but just as a bit of a side-line - he likes to stab to death young innocent Christian girls. Sounds perfectly reasonable. Hey, everyone needs to have a hobby. Phew. Think what the reaction would have been if the Police stated it was Islamic terrorist related and charged this fanatic accordingly. People would get jolly cross. |
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