Icegas
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 2:13:34 GMT
I've explained, that I've looked into lots of his work and it's been true. Well, for a start he said Telford was "a small town with 3,500 Muslims, this is a problem". Telford is a town of 155,000 people with 92% white British. Can I believe the rest as I would have to as he hasn't given any evidence. In this clip he says that Keir Starmer stated the AstraZenica vaccine was "100% safe", the tweet shown in the video didn't state that. x.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1822438637948015044/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1822438637948015044¤tTweetUser=RebelNewsOnline&mode=profileSo forgive me but I cannot take him at face value, I would require greater evidence. He's clearly passionate but with that comes mistakes and I can't decipher which are mistakes, which are lies and which are outright misinformation. Do you all not understand that this guy is trying to...and is the MAIN,and possibly the ONLY REASON that these grooming gangs were,and are continued to be exposed? Instead of congratulating him,even just a little , you instead decide to jump on your soapbox and attack him based on your hatred, or agenda against him, based on no real source of substance, other then your blind,and blinkered opinion of him, given what the Media tells you. It's the same in regards to the murders of the 3 girls in Southport. Instead of looking for the solution to these acts, you all jumped on the bollox bandwagon of making this past month, all about the small percentage of far -right thugs kicking off after they sadly took over good intentioned protests. You ignored the real issues here. Are you lot incapable of logical discourse? Where does anyone on here speak about how we deal with the uncertainty of what mass, uncontrolled and wreckless immigration is doing to us and our future.
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Icegas
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 2:48:02 GMT
I've explained, that I've looked into lots of his work and it's been true. Well, for a start he said Telford was "a small town with 3,500 Muslims, this is a problem". Telford is a town of 155,000 people with 92% white British. Can I believe the rest as I would have to as he hasn't given any evidence. In this clip he says that Keir Starmer stated the AstraZenica vaccine was "100% safe", the tweet shown in the video didn't state that. x.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1822438637948015044/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1822438637948015044¤tTweetUser=RebelNewsOnline&mode=profileSo forgive me but I cannot take him at face value, I would require greater evidence. He's clearly passionate but with that comes mistakes and I can't decipher which are mistakes, which are lies and which are outright misinformation. You haven't explained yourself very well.. Telford is a town of 170,000..which could be classed as small.The Muslim population as of 2021 was 4,860. According to the Home Office, as of 2015, Telford had the highest rate of minor exploitation cases of any town or city in the United Kingdom. The report also revealed that many of them were reported to the council but were ignored. There were over 1000 victims, and all rapes and murders were committed by Pakistani men. I'm not sure what you are arguing about.. Is Tommy Robinson wrong for bringing this to the National attention?
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Icegas
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 2:59:15 GMT
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Post by baldrick on Aug 18, 2024 8:20:47 GMT
Well, for a start he said Telford was "a small town with 3,500 Muslims, this is a problem". Telford is a town of 155,000 people with 92% white British. Can I believe the rest as I would have to as he hasn't given any evidence. In this clip he says that Keir Starmer stated the AstraZenica vaccine was "100% safe", the tweet shown in the video didn't state that. x.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1822438637948015044/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1822438637948015044¤tTweetUser=RebelNewsOnline&mode=profileSo forgive me but I cannot take him at face value, I would require greater evidence. He's clearly passionate but with that comes mistakes and I can't decipher which are mistakes, which are lies and which are outright misinformation. You haven't explained yourself very well.. Telford is a town of 170,000..which could be classed as small.The Muslim population as of 2021 was 4,860. According to the Home Office, as of 2015, Telford had the highest rate of minor exploitation cases of any town or city in the United Kingdom. The report also revealed that many of them were reported to the council but were ignored. There were over 1000 victims, and all rapes and murders were committed by Pakistani men. I'm not sure what you are arguing about.. Is Tommy Robinson wrong for bringing this to the National attention? I'm asking for evidence. 170,000 is not small and if your figures are correct then it represents 3% of the population. The only verifiable items in his piece are wrong. All I am asking for is proof, not taking anyone's word for it.
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Post by baldrick on Aug 18, 2024 8:21:16 GMT
Don't have Facebook, can you post?
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Post by baldrick on Aug 18, 2024 8:22:10 GMT
Confirmation bias and Internet rabbit holes. Ok numbnuts #Two.. Nither of you seemed to have read what I wrote, and then decided to react without any logic behind your response. I give up with the numbnuts on here. Really I do. Less of the insults.
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Post by baldrick on Aug 18, 2024 8:27:34 GMT
Well, for a start he said Telford was "a small town with 3,500 Muslims, this is a problem". Telford is a town of 155,000 people with 92% white British. Can I believe the rest as I would have to as he hasn't given any evidence. In this clip he says that Keir Starmer stated the AstraZenica vaccine was "100% safe", the tweet shown in the video didn't state that. x.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1822438637948015044/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1822438637948015044¤tTweetUser=RebelNewsOnline&mode=profileSo forgive me but I cannot take him at face value, I would require greater evidence. He's clearly passionate but with that comes mistakes and I can't decipher which are mistakes, which are lies and which are outright misinformation. Do you all not understand that this guy is trying to...and is the MAIN,and possibly the ONLY REASON that these grooming gangs were,and are continued to be exposed? Instead of congratulating him,even just a little , you instead decide to jump on your soapbox and attack him based on your hatred, or agenda against him, based on no real source of substance, other then your blind,and blinkered opinion of him, given what the Media tells you. It's the same in regards to the murders of the 3 girls in Southport. Instead of looking for the solution to these acts, you all jumped on the bollox bandwagon of making this past month, all about the small percentage of far -right thugs kicking off after they sadly took over good intentioned protests. You ignored the real issues here. Are you lot incapable of logical discourse? Where does anyone on here speak about how we deal with the uncertainty of what mass, uncontrolled and wreckless immigration is doing to us and our future. Southport was about the murder of three young girls. It was you and Bas, who demanded to know who killed them, hoping there was an Islam or immigrant connection. You were the ones jumping to conclusions and not addressing the issue. TR is not a modern day Roger Cook, he comes across more Joe McCarthy.
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Post by trymer on Aug 18, 2024 8:28:35 GMT
What's your definition and benchmark for "far right"? Genuine question as it seems a subjective assessment depending on one's own position. ° You are not far - right, if you are proud to be British, and you want to protect and honour your culture. ° You are not far - right, if you are white. ° You are not far - right, if you a white male. ° You are not far - right, if you believe that your country's identity has been changed by 'Mass'...'wreckless' .... and 'uncontrolled' immigration, and choose to speak up about it. ° You are not far- right, if you think 'mass' Multiculturalism hasn't worked. ° You are not far - right, if you want to stop the boats! ° You are not far- right , if you now feel like a foreigner in your home town or city, due to mass immigration, and think to yourself WTF has happened.?? ° You are not far - right, if you speak up against a religion that is completely anti British, and anti western, and does not respect our laws, our culture, and openly admits it wants a Islamic state here. ° You are not far- right, if you are against Muslim rape gangs. ° You are not far right, if you think a male has a penis and a female has a vagina. ....... I believe being called 'far - right' is one of the biggest insults that anyone can call another person, especially if a person honestly doesn't hold those beliefs as you are basically calling them a Nazi. The term far - right , causes too visceral a reaction and at the same time is too broad to be meaningful. Some people today class anyone that is right of the left, as far - right...which is complete nonsense, and is why the far-right label is seen as so toxic, so it's easy to use against someone in an argument, like is shown daily on this forum. I think that 'far right' is the new name for anyone that Lib//Lab/Con doesnt like, used to be neo-Nazi...Fascist...racist etc, now its anyone from Jacob Rees Mogg to Tommy Robinson and many others too. Really its up to the people using the term 'far right' to explain what they mean by it....they wont though ! I could be described as 'far right' because i support strong Policing, I would like capitol punishment for murderers,paedophiles,terrorists and drug dealers , heavy prison sentences for carrying knives, if those views make me 'far right' thats fine but it then follows that the recent rioters were NOT 'far right' because they have the opposite ideas to me, in reality they were a bunch of drunks and chavs with the occasional opportunist looter.
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Post by trymer on Aug 18, 2024 8:30:03 GMT
Do you all not understand that this guy is trying to...and is the MAIN,and possibly the ONLY REASON that these grooming gangs were,and are continued to be exposed? Instead of congratulating him,even just a little , you instead decide to jump on your soapbox and attack him based on your hatred, or agenda against him, based on no real source of substance, other then your blind,and blinkered opinion of him, given what the Media tells you. It's the same in regards to the murders of the 3 girls in Southport. Instead of looking for the solution to these acts, you all jumped on the bollox bandwagon of making this past month, all about the small percentage of far -right thugs kicking off after they sadly took over good intentioned protests. You ignored the real issues here. Are you lot incapable of logical discourse? Where does anyone on here speak about how we deal with the uncertainty of what mass, uncontrolled and wreckless immigration is doing to us and our future. Southport was about the murder of three young girls. It was you, Trymer and Bas, who demanded to know who killed them, hoping there was an Islam or immigrant connection. You were the ones jumping to conclusions and not addressing the issue. TR is not a modern day Roger Cook, he comes across more Joe McCarthy. Did I demand to know who killed the little girls ? can you show me the post ?
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Post by oldie on Aug 18, 2024 8:32:04 GMT
Do you all not understand that this guy is trying to...and is the MAIN,and possibly the ONLY REASON that these grooming gangs were,and are continued to be exposed? Instead of congratulating him,even just a little , you instead decide to jump on your soapbox and attack him based on your hatred, or agenda against him, based on no real source of substance, other then your blind,and blinkered opinion of him, given what the Media tells you. It's the same in regards to the murders of the 3 girls in Southport. Instead of looking for the solution to these acts, you all jumped on the bollox bandwagon of making this past month, all about the small percentage of far -right thugs kicking off after they sadly took over good intentioned protests. You ignored the real issues here. Are you lot incapable of logical discourse? Where does anyone on here speak about how we deal with the uncertainty of what mass, uncontrolled and wreckless immigration is doing to us and our future. Southport was about the murder of three young girls. It was you, Trymer and Bas, who demanded to know who killed them, hoping there was an Islam or immigrant connection. You were the ones jumping to conclusions and not addressing the issue. TR is not a modern day Roger Cook, he comes across more Joe McCarthy. Absolutely Cognitive dissonance at its finest. This made me laugh out loud "Are you lot incapable of logical discourse?" 😂😂😂😂
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Post by baldrick on Aug 18, 2024 8:35:05 GMT
Southport was about the murder of three young girls. It was you and Bas, who demanded to know who killed them, hoping there was an Islam or immigrant connection. You were the ones jumping to conclusions and not addressing the issue. TR is not a modern day Roger Cook, he comes across more Joe McCarthy. Did I demand to know who killed the little girls ? can you show me the post ? Okay, removed your name.
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Post by trymer on Aug 18, 2024 8:41:06 GMT
Just to make clear my feelings about the killings of the girls in Southport,the culprit was caught red handed there can be no mistake about his identity or his guilt, whether he is white or non white and whatever loony religion he maybe is irrelevant... he should be executed.
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Post by baldrick on Aug 18, 2024 8:52:20 GMT
Just to make clear my feelings about the killings of the girls in Southport,the culprit was caught red handed there can be no mistake about his identity or his guilt, whether he is white or non white and whatever loony religion he maybe is irrelevant... he should be executed. I'd rather he spent the rest of his life in prison.
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Post by trymer on Aug 18, 2024 8:54:16 GMT
Just to make clear my feelings about the killings of the girls in Southport,the culprit was caught red handed there can be no mistake about his identity or his guilt, whether he is white or non white and whatever loony religion he maybe is irrelevant... he should be executed. I'd rather he spent the rest of his life in prison. I would rather not contribute to keeping him alive plus his execution would free up a prison cell.
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Post by oldie on Aug 18, 2024 8:56:35 GMT
I'd rather he spent the rest of his life in prison. I would rather not contribute to keeping him alive plus his execution would free up a prison cell. Thankfully we live in a more civilised society, the members of which prefer justice over revenge.
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Post by baldrick on Aug 18, 2024 9:00:45 GMT
I'd rather he spent the rest of his life in prison. I would rather not contribute to keeping him alive plus his execution would free up a prison cell. He would be punished more by spending decades away from society, avoiding other inmates. If you want revenge, that's going to be a greater punishment that simply "switching off".
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Post by trymer on Aug 18, 2024 9:00:54 GMT
I would rather not contribute to keeping him alive plus his execution would free up a prison cell. Thankfully we live in a more civilised society, the members of which prefer justice over revenge. Such a civilised society that 3 little girls can be hacked to death.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 18, 2024 9:02:24 GMT
Thankfully we live in a more civilised society, the members of which prefer justice over revenge. Such a civilised society that 3 little girls can be hacked to death. He really is a stinking hypocrite Trymer.
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Post by oldie on Aug 18, 2024 9:09:09 GMT
Thankfully we live in a more civilised society, the members of which prefer justice over revenge. Such a civilised society that 3 little girls can be hacked to death. It's dreadful But maniacs exist no matter how hard one tries. How we deal with it is one of the defining features of civilisation. The eye for an eye approach is one that I personally reject. I do understand that some on here are confused, intellectually. On the one hand calling for that eye for an eye approach whilst at the same time losing their minds over societies that do employ that approach. Confused or wilfully blind. More cognitive dissonance I think. "Cognitive dissonance occurs when a person’s behavior and beliefs do not complement each other or when they hold two contradictory beliefs. It causes a feeling of discomfort that can motivate people to try to feel better."
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Post by oldie on Aug 18, 2024 9:10:07 GMT
Such a civilised society that 3 little girls can be hacked to death. He really is a stinking hypocrite Trymer. If you have nothing to say, it's better to say nothing
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