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Post by syg on Sept 13, 2022 20:51:58 GMT
Totally outclassed.
Switched from rad Ipswich to rad Bristol for last 5 mins. 2 absolute idiots, if they really believe that we could have got a result they should abandon watching football.
If we don't sort the defence out we could well go back down.
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Post by toteend3 on Sept 13, 2022 21:03:50 GMT
Ipswich best team in the league and deserved the win - That said Gas unlucky not to scored either side of half time - Shame about the two red cards , but overall we gave it a go another day we might have come away with a result
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 13, 2022 21:31:52 GMT
Stats: Ipswich 2 BRFC 0 - 64% - 36% - Shots 19-5 - On Target 7-3 - Corners 7-1 - Fouls 12-11 - Yellows 3-3 - Reds 0-2 - Referee: Alan Young - Attendance: 22,209.
Conor Chaplin scored his sixth goal of the season as Ipswich Town secured League One victory against Bristol Rovers - who finished the match with nine men.
The result maintained the Tractor Boys' unbeaten record and ensured they kept pace with Portsmouth at the top of the table.
Rovers soaked up pressure in the first half and at the other end Antony Evans' shot hit the post and Ipswich goalkeeper Christian Walton turned a shot from Trevor Clarke round the post.
Luke Woolfenden's header was then deflected onto the bar by Rovers goalkeeper James Belshaw as Kieran McKenna's side responded.
The hosts' pressure finally told in the 24th minute when Sam Morsy found Chaplin on the penalty spot and he fired low into the net.
Town had two penalty appeals turned down by referee Alan Young before Lee Evans' shot found the back of the net in the 55th minute to give Kieran McKenna's side control.
Joey Barton's side lost their discipline in the closing stages as Bobby Thomas received his second yellow card for a foul on Gassan Ahadme in the 85th minute and Alfie Kilgour was red-carded for bringing down Chaplin.
Rovers are now 18th in the table.
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Post by alftupper on Sept 14, 2022 6:20:08 GMT
FFS...to lose one centre back to an entirely avoidable red card decision in advance of a game against fellow L1 strugglers is unfortunate, but to lose two is careless... Drives me Wilde. |
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Post by baselswh on Sept 14, 2022 6:29:40 GMT
Awful mistake by Alfie Kilgour that led to himself getting sent off.
Was he so worried about the player chasing him,he forgot to look forward and just ran into trouble.
Alfie wins the ball well.Blocks,tackles and heads well.Often he passes decent too.
Though he does seem to have a bad mistake up his sleeve when on the ball.
I'm not blaming him for the defeat by the way.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 14, 2022 8:04:50 GMT
Awful mistake by Alfie Kilgour that led to himself getting sent off. Was he so worried about the player chasing him,he forgot to look forward and just ran into trouble. Alfie wins the ball well.Blocks,tackles and heads well.Often he passes decent too. Though he does seem to have a bad mistake up his sleeve when on the ball. I'm not blaming him for the defeat by the way. Looks like the team are getting very frustrated and because they cannot compete. Some of us had said that we will struggle and you now cannot say that Barton has not has his input and that is not his team BUT we have lots out injured and now we will have suspensions. Things are not looking good and i fully expect some antics from our manager, not sure in which way but it will never be his fault. Pseudo intellectual joey will use some phrases, from some or other philosopher or other and blame the players for not being mentally right, or some such crap. I said 16th at start of season, bookies had us going down. We shall see as, even if we do click, the lead is starting to look ominous and the team , dejected |
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 14, 2022 8:37:26 GMT
Awful mistake by Alfie Kilgour that led to himself getting sent off. Was he so worried about the player chasing him,he forgot to look forward and just ran into trouble. Alfie wins the ball well.Blocks,tackles and heads well.Often he passes decent too. Though he does seem to have a bad mistake up his sleeve when on the ball. I'm not blaming him for the defeat by the way. Looks like the team are getting very frustrated and because they cannot compete. Some of us had said that we will struggle and you now cannot say that Barton has not has his input and that is not his team BUT we have lots out injured and now we will have suspensions. Things are not looking good and i fully expect some antics from our manager, not sure in which way but it will never be his fault. Pseudo intellectual joey will use some phrases, from some or other philosopher or other and blame the players for not being mentally right, or some such crap. I said 16th at start of season, bookies had us going down. We shall see as, even if we do click, the lead is starting to look ominous and the team , dejected Bookies 'best' odds for relegation before the start of the season (generally): Morecambe evens Burton 5/2 Cheltenham 7/4 Fleetwood 7/4 Forest Green 9/4 Rovers 7/2 (which sort of implies 19th) |
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 14, 2022 9:01:01 GMT
Awful mistake by Alfie Kilgour that led to himself getting sent off. Was he so worried about the player chasing him,he forgot to look forward and just ran into trouble. Alfie wins the ball well.Blocks,tackles and heads well.Often he passes decent too. Though he does seem to have a bad mistake up his sleeve when on the ball. I'm not blaming him for the defeat by the way. Looks like the team are getting very frustrated and because they cannot compete. Some of us had said that we will struggle and you now cannot say that Barton has not has his input and that is not his team BUT we have lots out injured and now we will have suspensions. Things are not looking good and i fully expect some antics from our manager, not sure in which way but it will never be his fault. Pseudo intellectual joey will use some phrases, from some or other philosopher or other and blame the players for not being mentally right, or some such crap. I said 16th at start of season, bookies had us going down. We shall see as, even if we do click, the lead is starting to look ominous and the team , dejected You've hit the nail on the head with your reference to 'competing'. Its the not competing that is the real concern and the mark of a relegation team - last night sounded like a bit of an abject surrender. Looking at their team sheet, Ipswich aren't all that and I think we made them look much better than they are. We are missing a lot of players through injury and I expect the team to be lower midtable by the end of the season. In addition to Thomas and Kilgour, I have also heard that Finley could also have been sent off. Our disciplinary record is woeful but at least we have a manager who can speak to the players about the importance of self-control, professionalism and restraint....  |
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 14, 2022 9:03:36 GMT
Awful mistake by Alfie Kilgour that led to himself getting sent off. Was he so worried about the player chasing him,he forgot to look forward and just ran into trouble. Alfie wins the ball well.Blocks,tackles and heads well.Often he passes decent too. Though he does seem to have a bad mistake up his sleeve when on the ball. I'm not blaming him for the defeat by the way. Needs an experienced CB next to him, a la Craig. Has shown he can do it at this level and was even linked with Premiership Southampton at one point. |
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 14, 2022 9:13:25 GMT
Looks like the team are getting very frustrated and because they cannot compete. Some of us had said that we will struggle and you now cannot say that Barton has not has his input and that is not his team BUT we have lots out injured and now we will have suspensions. Things are not looking good and i fully expect some antics from our manager, not sure in which way but it will never be his fault. Pseudo intellectual joey will use some phrases, from some or other philosopher or other and blame the players for not being mentally right, or some such crap. I said 16th at start of season, bookies had us going down. We shall see as, even if we do click, the lead is starting to look ominous and the team , dejected You've hit the nail on the head with your reference to 'competing'. Its the not competing that is the real concern and the mark of a relegation team - last night sounded like a bit of an abject surrender. Looking at their team sheet, Ipswich aren't all that and I think we made them look much better than they are. We are missing a lot of players through injury and I expect the team to be lower midtable by the end of the season. In addition to Thomas and Kilgour, I have also heard that Finley could also have been sent off. Our disciplinary record is woeful but at least we have a manager who can speak to the players about the importance of self-control, professionalism and restraint.... Rovers are 23rd / 24 in the Fair Play league. (This doesn't count the retrospective 3 game ban handed out to Rossiter). |
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Post by baselswh on Sept 14, 2022 11:05:42 GMT
Awful mistake by Alfie Kilgour that led to himself getting sent off. Was he so worried about the player chasing him,he forgot to look forward and just ran into trouble. Alfie wins the ball well.Blocks,tackles and heads well.Often he passes decent too. Though he does seem to have a bad mistake up his sleeve when on the ball. I'm not blaming him for the defeat by the way. Needs an experienced CB next to him, a la Craig. Has shown he can do it at this level and was even linked with Premiership Southampton at one point. Yeh,it seems so. |
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Post by toteend3 on Sept 14, 2022 12:22:53 GMT
It seems that i am the only one who’s glass is half full. I thought they competed well against a very good side who flew out the box. Couple of inches lower and Evans ‘Bobby dazzler’ would have us in at HT 1-1 and it would have been very much game on!
Well impressed with Trevor Clarke he made some great runs ( first time I really noticed him) looking forward to see what he can do on Saturday.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Sept 14, 2022 17:05:50 GMT
Looks like the team are getting very frustrated and because they cannot compete. Some of us had said that we will struggle and you now cannot say that Barton has not has his input and that is not his team BUT we have lots out injured and now we will have suspensions. Things are not looking good and i fully expect some antics from our manager, not sure in which way but it will never be his fault. Pseudo intellectual joey will use some phrases, from some or other philosopher or other and blame the players for not being mentally right, or some such crap. I said 16th at start of season, bookies had us going down. We shall see as, even if we do click, the lead is starting to look ominous and the team , dejected Looking at their team sheet, Ipswich aren't all that and I think we made them look much better than they are.[br In addition to Thomas and Kilgour, I have also heard that Finley could also have been sent off. Our disciplinary record is woeful but at least we have a manager who can speak to the players about the importance of self-control, professionalism and restraint.... Bit like at Barnsley where we made them look much better than they are and were on the back foot after gifting them two early goals. We never got started in that game at all. My view is that the reason for our poor start to the season is very similar to last year. Too many changes, too much tinkering and not playing a settled side and to a consistent game plan. Some of this had been forced on Barton through injuries but we don’t help ourselves with ill discipline and Barton has to accept responsibility for at least some of this as some of this has at least been his choice and decision. Hope he lands on a more settled game plan soon as this is a tougher league and will be much harder to play catch up. Not seen anything yet to dissuade me from the view that he is not the tactical genius he thinks he is |
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Sept 14, 2022 17:08:26 GMT
It seems that i am the only one who’s glass is half full. I thought they competed well against a very good side who flew out the box. Couple of inches lower and Evans ‘Bobby dazzler’ would have us in at HT 1-1 and it would have been very much game on! Well impressed with Trevor Clarke he made some great runs ( first time I really noticed him) looking forward to see what he can do on Saturday. UTG Trevor Clarke is an odd one. Looked like Barton was bombing him out of the club and the comments he made about TC looked damning with no way back for him |
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 14, 2022 17:42:37 GMT
Looking at their team sheet, Ipswich aren't all that and I think we made them look much better than they are.[br In addition to Thomas and Kilgour, I have also heard that Finley could also have been sent off. Our disciplinary record is woeful but at least we have a manager who can speak to the players about the importance of self-control, professionalism and restraint.... Bit like at Barnsley where we made them look much better than they are and were on the back foot after gifting them two early goals. We never got started in that game at all. My view is that the reason for our poor start to the season is very similar to last year. Too many changes, too much tinkering and not playing a settled side and to a consistent game plan. Some of this had been forced on Barton through injuries but we don’t help ourselves with ill discipline and Barton has to accept responsibility for at least some of this as some of this has at least been his choice and decision. Hope he lands on a more settled game plan soon as this is a tougher league and will be much harder to play catch up. Not seen anything yet to dissuade me from the view that he is not the tactical genius he thinks he is The ill-discipline isn't a reflection of an issue within the club, it is a reflection of the fact that Barton has signed players very much in his own image. Rossiter, Finley and Coutts are tough, tenacious grafters who come with a price - off-ball spats, short fuses and a deeply-rooted desire to inflict arbitrary violence on others. My issue is that these players aren't getting sent off for playing hard, they are getting sent off for stupidity (Kilgour or Thomas last night) or for acts of petulant malice (Coutts at Rochdale last season, Rossiter this season, Finley last night). I didn't really expect anything from Barnsley or Ipswich but was more disappointed and concerned by the nature of the defeats. Can you think of a single game that Barton has turned around through changes he has made? In the relegation season, I recall a pouting and demonstrative Joey throwing his dummy out on the sidelines, but precious little else. |
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 14, 2022 17:46:25 GMT
It seems that i am the only one who’s glass is half full. I thought they competed well against a very good side who flew out the box. Couple of inches lower and Evans ‘Bobby dazzler’ would have us in at HT 1-1 and it would have been very much game on! Well impressed with Trevor Clarke he made some great runs ( first time I really noticed him) looking forward to see what he can do on Saturday. UTG Trevor Clarke is an odd one. Looked like Barton was bombing him out of the club and the comments he made about TC looked damning with no way back for him It appears this was an effort to get a response from Clarke. Judging by the fact that Clarke is in the team, JB got one. I think he looks like more of a left winger than a left-back or left wing-back. |
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Post by toteend3 on Sept 14, 2022 18:02:10 GMT
Nice one Trev!
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Post by Bath Gas on Sept 14, 2022 19:02:40 GMT
Trevor Clarke is an odd one. Looked like Barton was bombing him out of the club and the comments he made about TC looked damning with no way back for him It appears this was an effort to get a response from Clarke. Judging by the fact that Clarke is in the team, JB got one. I think he looks like more of a left winger than a left-back or left wing-back. If you watched the FGR game, Clarke didn't need a kick up the behind, JB has had to bring him back into the fold because of injuries/suspensions. Personally, I like Clarke, and thought that it was unfair of JB to single him out after he'd had a good game, Westbrook was more understandable, as it's just not going to happen for him at Rovers. |
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Sept 14, 2022 23:20:36 GMT
Bit like at Barnsley where we made them look much better than they are and were on the back foot after gifting them two early goals. We never got started in that game at all. My view is that the reason for our poor start to the season is very similar to last year. Too many changes, too much tinkering and not playing a settled side and to a consistent game plan. Some of this had been forced on Barton through injuries but we don’t help ourselves with ill discipline and Barton has to accept responsibility for at least some of this as some of this has at least been his choice and decision. Hope he lands on a more settled game plan soon as this is a tougher league and will be much harder to play catch up. Not seen anything yet to dissuade me from the view that he is not the tactical genius he thinks he is The ill-discipline isn't a reflection of an issue within the club, it is a reflection of the fact that Barton has signed players very much in his own image. Rossiter, Finley and Coutts are tough, tenacious grafters who come with a price - off-ball spats, short fuses and a deeply-rooted desire to inflict arbitrary violence on others. My issue is that these players aren't getting sent off for playing hard, they are getting sent off for stupidity (Kilgour or Thomas last night) or for acts of petulant malice (Coutts at Rochdale last season, Rossiter this season, Finley last night). I didn't really expect anything from Barnsley or Ipswich but was more disappointed and concerned by the nature of the defeats. Can you think of a single game that Barton has turned around through changes he has made? In the relegation season, I recall a pouting and demonstrative Joey throwing his dummy out on the sidelines, but precious little else. agree with a lot of this especially about the stupidity of some of the red cards - Rossiter being a case in point. Don’t object to a red for a crunching or mistimed tackle - it’s the sly petulant off the ball stuff I dislike. I remember Barton in this vein as a player and he has carried this into life after playing too. Don’t see Coutts Finley and Whelan as cast in his mould though as don’t remember him bossing midfield like they can do ( last season at least). If he had i think bosses might have put up with his antics more as winning the midfield in the way that Coutts etc can gives you a really solid platform to go on and win the game |
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Sept 14, 2022 23:29:12 GMT
Trevor Clarke is an odd one. Looked like Barton was bombing him out of the club and the comments he made about TC looked damning with no way back for him It appears this was an effort to get a response from Clarke. Judging by the fact that Clarke is in the team, JB got one. I think he looks like more of a left winger than a left-back or left wing-back. not seen Clarke play so not fair to comment on his performance. I don’t like this kick up the arse approach to “management” though. In my experience I’ve unanimously found that people always respond much better to praise and a warm arm around the shoulder rather than a public humiliation. Sure if improvement feedback is needed then give it considerately, honestly, clearly and in private. Most people know when they've f**ked up and want to learn and improve. I didn’t like it when he did it to Luke Thomas and don’t like it in this case either. Makes Barton look a bit of a p***k too when he’s forced to pick the player after saying the sort of things he did implying no future at the club |
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