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Post by baselswh on Sept 6, 2022 14:21:11 GMT
Furys camp have made an offer to Joshuas camp.
November in UK.
Frank Warren says it's a fair offer.
What do you reckon?
Hope it happens,it'll be a decent warm up for Tyson before facing Usyk.
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Post by zfc on Sept 6, 2022 15:45:12 GMT
Mismatch of terrible proportions,Fury will beat him easily as he is levels above Joshua in every department.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 7, 2022 7:50:44 GMT
Mismatch of terrible proportions,Fury will beat him easily as he is levels above Joshua in every department. Basically I agree zfc. Joshua may not take the fight claiming he does'nt accept the deal.I've a feeling Frank Warren and TF have thought alot about this and the offered deal is decent. AJ won't look good turning it down,but taking it on he faces yet another defeat. Hearn and Co are going to be exposed if they turn down the offer. Anyway, if it happens I think TF wins and goes on to fight Usyk.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 7, 2022 20:58:37 GMT
Tyson Fury offers Anthony Joshua chance to fight for title this year.WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury has offered Anthony Joshua the chance to fight for his belt before the end of this year. Fury, 34, is looking for an opponent after rival Oleksandr Usyk, the WBO, WBA and IBF champion, suggested he will not return to the ring until 2023. Joshua, who was beaten by the Ukrainian in Saudi Arabia last month, responded to Fury's challenge by saying he would be "ready in December". Fury said in April he was retiring. But in a video posted on social media on Monday, he said: "You've all heard that I'm going to be fighting within the next few months, and before I announce an opponent I need to do this just in case. "Anthony Joshua, I know you've just lost a fight to Usyk, and I know you're belt-less at the moment, and I'd like to give you an opportunity to fight me for the WBC heavyweight championship of the world and the lineal championship in the next few months. "You're coming off a 12-round fight so you're match fit, you're ready, I'm giving you a few months' notice. "If you're interested I'll send you the date over and we can rumble - a battle of Britain for the WBC heavyweight championship of the world." Uysk said on Friday of a fight with Fury: "It won't happen this year, that's for sure. I'm totally healthy and don't have any injuries, but I have old traumas which have resurfaced, and which need to be treated. I will need up to two months to recuperate." ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/6A67/production/_126593272_anthonyjoshua.jpgAnthony Joshua was beaten by Oleksandr Usyk last month ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/FD3C/production/_126582846_gettyimages-1394158965.jpgFury said he had retired after beating Dillian Whyte at Wembley in April but still holds the WBC belt
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Post by baselswh on Sept 8, 2022 13:34:52 GMT
Fury has offered Joshua 40% of the prize.
Very generous.
I wonder what excuse Hearn/Joshua will come up with,because I don't think they fancy Fury.I don't think they ever have.
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 10, 2022 15:06:56 GMT
AJ can't believe his luck.
Yet another huge payday for a very, very average fighter.
Very generous of Tyson Fury for giving him i'd imagine in the region of £40M as a retirement fund.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 13, 2022 12:58:43 GMT
AJs team have accepted the offer!
Contracts to be sent ,to be signed very soon.
Looks like it's on.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 13, 2022 15:10:22 GMT
AJs team have accepted the offer! Contracts to be sent ,to be signed very soon. Looks like it's on. Anthony Joshua 'accepts Tyson Fury's terms' for all-British December fight, One last massive pay day for AJ if he loses.Anthony Joshua has accepted WBC champion Tyson Fury's terms for an all-British heavyweight fight on 3 December and is "awaiting a response", his management company has said. Joshua, 32, was sent an offer by Team Fury, suggesting a 60-40 purse split to the champion and a December fight date. The fight was agreed on Friday but the announcement was delayed because of the death of the Queen last Thursday. Initial terms have been agreed but Joshua is yet to sign a contract. In a statement posted on Twitter and shared by Joshua, 258MGT said: "258 and Matchroom Boxing can confirm, on behalf of Anthony Joshua, that we accepted all terms presented to us by Fury's team for a fight." Fury, 34, had said he was retiring after beating Dillian Whyte in April, and reiterated that claim last month, before challenging former world champion Joshua in a video posted on social media. Joshua was beaten by Ukrainian Oleksandr Usyk in their rematch in Saudi Arabia last month, his third defeat in his past five bouts. There is a rematch clause with a 50-50 split if Joshua beats Fury, but the venue for the December fight, should it go ahead, is yet to be confirmed. Cardiff's Principality Stadium has been mooted, while Saudi Arabia or another country in the Middle East could also host it. There are still hurdles to overcome before the fight is finalised, with both fighters signed to rival promoters and broadcasters, although two-time champion Joshua this week entered the WBC rankings in sixth position in another significant development. A boxer must be ranked in the top 15 by all governing bodies to challenge for a world title. ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/480/cpsprodpb/1253D/production/_126696057_bbc-sport-index-imagery-2-split-images-gradient-a8342be6-6c42-48d8-90dc-96f55b93a39c.png
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 14, 2022 4:15:43 GMT
Tyson Fury v Anthony Joshua: Is it still a global super-fight?ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/658F/production/_126699952_bbc-sport-index-imagery-2-split-images-gradient-cb974379-d733-4656-a9ae-34035008ed11.pngWBC champion Fury (left) has won 32 professional bouts, with one draw, while Joshua has won 24 and lost three A year ago, Tyson Fury v Anthony Joshua was the super-fight British fans, and arguably the whole of the boxing world, longed for. An all-British meeting for all four major heavyweight belts between two world champions with opposing personalities who cross over to the mainstream was in touching distance. The stage was set, finer details agreed, with Saudi Arabia set to host the fight in August 2021. But Fury was instead ordered by an arbitration hearing to face Deontay Wilder in a trilogy bout. As their careers then took separate paths, it seemed the Fury-Joshua - or Joshua-Fury depending on your allegiances - ship had sailed. Joshua has lost three of his last five bouts and is without a world title, while the unpredictable Fury - who last week appeared in the scripted world of World Wrestling Entertainment - has said he has retired on more than one occasion. But in a somewhat unexpected twist, WBC champion Fury challenged Joshua via social media on 5 September. On Tuesday, Joshua, according to his management company, agreed terms to fight Fury on 3 December. Should it finally happen as has been proposed, is the meeting still a modern-era super-fight? Or has interest dwindled, and are there actually bigger fights available to be made instead? But will the casual sport or even the casual boxing fan be all that interested? Matchroom Boxing promoter Eddie Hearn, who represents Joshua, says the enormity of the fight will be down to the two boxers, not necessarily the belts on offer. It has been suggested Cardiff's Principality Stadium could host the meeting in less than three months' time.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 19, 2022 9:38:33 GMT
I don't see this fight as being worldwide massive,not anymore.
AJ has been exposed as not being all that.
For Britons and some of the world it's a big one.
Having said that,AJ should be the fittest he's ever been for a fight.It might get interesting.
Perhaps this fight is similar in importance and interest as the Bruno Lewis match?
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Post by alftupper on Sept 21, 2022 6:03:49 GMT
I don't see this fight as being worldwide massive,not anymore. AJ has been exposed as not being all that. For Britons and some of the world it's a big one. Having said that,AJ should be the fittest he's ever been for a fight.It might get interesting. Perhaps this fight is similar in importance and interest as the Bruno Lewis match? At least it`s between two genuine Brits, fighting for the title. Lewis was a terrific talent, but ( for me ) he was about as British as a pint of Fosters. Born here, I know, but won two gold medals boxing for Canada, and am sure that he was motivated to move back to the UK more for professional convenience, than a desire to be reunited with his country of birth.
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 21, 2022 18:39:43 GMT
I don't see this fight as being worldwide massive,not anymore. AJ has been exposed as not being all that. For Britons and some of the world it's a big one. Having said that,AJ should be the fittest he's ever been for a fight.It might get interesting. Perhaps this fight is similar in importance and interest as the Bruno Lewis match? At least it`s between two genuine Brits, fighting for the title. Lewis was a terrific talent, but ( for me ) he was about as British as a pint of Fosters. Born here, I know, but won two gold medals boxing for Canada, and am sure that he was motivated to move back to the UK more for professional convenience, than a desire to be reunited with his country of birth. Lennox Lewis fought for Canada in the Olympics because that's where he learnt his trade and was trained by Arnie Boehm and Adrian Teodorescu. Let's not forget Tyson Fury also represented Ireland as an Amateur and because David Price was selected ahead of him for GB, Fury tried to get into the Ireland Olympic Team in 2008 but was refused. Both very much British in my eyes. One with Jamaican heritage born in the East End who emigrated to Canada and the other with Irish Heritage born in Manchester.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 25, 2022 3:44:52 GMT
Tyson Fury: Heavyweight champion says Anthony Joshua 'does not want to fight' him in all-British world-title bout.ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/4634/production/_126827971_bbc-sport-index-imagery-2-split-images-gradient-6fa0450b-a039-4fb7-b6e5-f19c8cf27073.pngJoshua lost the WBA (Super), WBO and IBF belts to Usyk in September 2021 but Fury still holds the WBC title WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury says fellow Briton Anthony Joshua "does not want to fight" him for the world title later this year. Fury, 34, offered Joshua the fight despite the 32-year-old failing to regain the WBA (Super), WBO and IBF belts he lost to Oleksandr Usyk. Joshua's team said they have "accepted all terms" to the offer. But Fury said: "I will be fighting on 3 December if [Joshua] does not sign this contract, which I don't think he will." He added: "You've had the contract for I don't know how long and ain't signing it. You do not want to fight." In the same social media post, Fury used an expletive to describe Ukraine's Usyk, who called for a unification fight with Fury after winning his rematch with Joshua. Fury's promoter Frank Warren then said the match "will be made" and Usyk, 35, said in an interview posted on his YouTube page on Thursday that he wants it to be one of his last three fights before retiring. "The unification of all the belts is much more important than just a fight or another defence," he said. "I want to outbox Fury and I don't want to work that much just for another defence. There's much more than that and I can achieve it."
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Post by baselswh on Sept 25, 2022 11:26:19 GMT
In the scenario Hearn and AJ don't sign up for this fight,I can't see any excuse.
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Post by alftupper on Sept 25, 2022 17:04:27 GMT
At least it`s between two genuine Brits, fighting for the title. Lewis was a terrific talent, but ( for me ) he was about as British as a pint of Fosters. Born here, I know, but won two gold medals boxing for Canada, and am sure that he was motivated to move back to the UK more for professional convenience, than a desire to be reunited with his country of birth. Lennox Lewis fought for Canada in the Olympics because that's where he learnt his trade and was trained by Arnie Boehm and Adrian Teodorescu. Let's not forget Tyson Fury also represented Ireland as an Amateur and because David Price was selected ahead of him for GB, Fury tried to get into the Ireland Olympic Team in 2008 but was refused. Both very much British in my eyes. Fine. But not in mine. Lewis only ever used this country as a flag of convenience. Once his career was over, he f**ked off again, and stayed fu**ked off, permanently.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 26, 2022 17:47:33 GMT
No contract signed.
AJ says he'll sign once lawyers have gone through contract.
TF says it's now too late,1700 today has come and gone. Fight off.
Quite tiresome is'nt it.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 26, 2022 21:00:53 GMT
Tyson Fury v Anthony Joshua: 'No chance' contract is signed on Monday, says promoter Eddie Hearn.ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/67EC/production/_126840662_tysonfuryholdswbcbelts.jpgFury holds the WBC heavyeweight world title while Joshua lost his WBA (Super), WBO and IBF belts to Oleksandr Usyk in September 2021 There is "no chance" the contract for a proposed all-British heavyweight world title fight between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua will be signed on Monday, says promoter Eddie Hearn. Monday is the deadline set by WBC champion Fury's promoter, Frank Warren. On Friday, Fury said Joshua "does not want to fight" him, with 3 December being mooted as the date for the bout. "If he [Fury] really wants to fight, he'll let the teams deal with it," said Joshua's promoter Hearn on Seconds Out. Later on Sunday Joshua said "of course I'm going to sign that contract" but that it is "with some lawyers at the moment". Fury, 34, offered Joshua the fight despite the 32-year-old suffering a second successive defeat by Oleksandr Usyk in August and failing to regain the WBA (Super), WBO and IBF belts he lost to the Ukrainian in September 2021. Joshua's team said they have "accepted all terms" to the offer. Warren said "there shouldn't be a reason" why the contract could not be signed on Monday. "I am hoping on Monday we'll be able to get it over the line. I don't think there's a lot of issues and the only thing I think can hold it up at the minute is the broadcasters," he told BBC Sport on Saturday. "AJ said he wanted the fight. We've agreed the financial terms and we've told them they can be involved in all the contracts, setting the budgets for the undercard, everything." However, Hearn said his team was getting the contract checked, claiming it was "all over the place" after waiting nine days to receive it. "If he doesn't [want to fight Joshua], and I guess he doesn't, then he'll do what he'll do and the fans might even fall for it," Hearn said. "But what I am seeing, the fans aren't falling for it. "We have a meeting on Monday, with DAZN, with BT, with everybody but it's going to take time. If he wants to put a time frame of Monday on it then it's clear to the whole public he doesn't want the fight. "It's not getting signed on Monday so if he is walking away on Monday the fight is off." Joshua, speaking in a video released on iFL TV's YouTube channel, reiterated Hearn's point, saying the contract "ain't in my hands, it's with the legal team". "You know the history of boxing, make sure you've got your legal terms right - that's why you have good management and good lawyers."
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Post by alftupper on Sept 27, 2022 5:40:23 GMT
Not unprecedented. Took years before Mayweather and Pacquiao agreed terms. Boring though, with both fighters blaming the other.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 29, 2022 20:18:55 GMT
Tyson Fury v Anthony Joshua U-turn as new deadline set for Principality Stadium fight.
Tyson Fury has performed a dramatic U-turn and given Anthony Joshua additional time to accept terms for a potential heavyweight contest between the pair in Cardiff.
Fury offered Joshua a 60:40 purse split - in favour of the current reigning champion - to fight at the Principality Stadium on December 3. He set the Londoner a deadline of Monday, September 26 to sign the contract.
However, after the deal remained unsigned on that date, Fury stated that the fight would no longer take place and that he was set to explore other options.
"Well, guys, it's official. D-Day has come and gone. It's gone past five o'clock on Monday, no contract has been signed," he said on Monday.
"It's officially over for Joshua. He is now out in the cold with the wolf pack, forget about it. Idiot. Coward! I always knew you didn't have the minerals to fight the Gypsy King. Good luck with your career, and your life."
Only 24 hours earlier, Joshua had confirmed his lawyers were poring over the details of the fight contract before putting pen to paper on a bumper deal. "It's not in my hands, it's with the legal team," he said.
"That's why you hire lawyers. You know the history of boxing, make sure you get your legal terms right. Of course, I'm going to sign a contract. It's just with some lawyers at the minute."
But, on Thursday, Fury admitted he was still open to having the fight and issued a fresh message to two-time world champion Joshua on social media.
"Right, Anthony Joshua, where do we start? So the deadline was Monday, Frank Warren asked me and convinced me to let it carry on for another couple of days," said Fury.
"Today is Thursday, even though I knew you wouldn't sign this contract I allowed Frank to continue doing meetings with your team, broadcasters and all that; now we have BT Sport, DAZN and ESPN all on the same page. They are happy with everything. They are all ready to rock and roll.
"You guys asked for a lot of stuff. You wanted to be co-promoters when you're a voluntary challenger, guess what? I said give it to them. Let them be co-promoters. You wanted full transparency even though you're not an equal shareholder in this party. Do you know what I said? Give them full transparency. I have got nothing to hide. I'm not trying to rob anybody.
"Now you have got full transparency everything is clean and fair. Now Joshua, the ball really is in your court son. Everything really is done. If you're a man and have some dignity and pride you'll get this contract signed today. This is it. There are no more days, weeks, months.
"You have had the contract now for over two weeks and you still haven't signed it. Show the public that you are really a big coward, that I know you are and don't sign it. I don't care either way if you sign it or not, it makes no difference to me at all. You're a beaten man and I'm a world champion.
"I'm chucking you a massive bone but I know I can punch your face in so I'm willing to give you an opportunity. There is nothing more to do, everyone is happy. Get your team onto mine, they will be available all day, like they have been for the last two weeks. Get this contract signed today, you big p***y.
"Let the British fans have what they want. There is no more running, you have to fight me. You cannot escape, the Fury is coming, b***h."
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 1, 2022 19:17:01 GMT
Tyson Fury has urged Anthony Joshua to "give British fans what they want" and sign a contract for a heavyweight world-title fight in December.
WBC champion Fury, 34, had given fellow Briton Joshua, 32, an ultimatum to sign by Monday, but said on social media he has extended the deadline to Thursday.
Joshua's promoter Eddie Hearn says he is "baffled" by Fury's latest demands.
"The ball is in your court, everything is done," said Fury.
"We have [broadcasters] BT, DAZN and ESPN all on the same page, they're happy with everything.
"If you have any dignity and pride about you, you'll get this contract signed today.
"I'm chucking you a massive bone but I know I can punch your face in so I'm willing to give you an opportunity. Let the British fans have what they want."
In an interview with BBC Radio 5 Live, Hearn responded by saying he had "absolutely no idea" what Fury was going to do next.
"I don't think we're a million miles away but I don't know really whether Tyson Fury wants this fight," added Hearn.
"I think he just wants to fight Manuel Charr on 3 December, but I don't think anyone else wants that fight. Hopefully we can keep moving forward.
"We'll carry on and while there's hope, we won't stop trying.
"From either side, I can't fault the process of trying to get done the biggest fight in British history. The only thing I can fault is we don't really know where we stand.
"One minute the fight's off, the fight's on; one minute he's retired, one minute he's fighting Manuel Charr. He's just made another offer to Derek Chisora. I don't know."
Joshua's team have already verbally accepted Fury's offer of a 60-40 purse split for a fight on 3 December, and television executives from BT Sport and streaming service DAZN were scheduled to meet on Monday.
Last month, Joshua failed to regain the WBA (Super), WBO and IBF belts in a rematch with Oleksandr Usyk, losing on a split decision.
"We are the B-side in this, whether right or wrong, because we accepted that position as challenger," added Hearn.
"We also accepted a date that was quite frankly to a disadvantage to Anthony Joshua, because he's just coming off a fight.
"But he was prepared to do it and he's still prepared to do it. We all really want to get it done. But I don't understand the deadlines that keep popping up on Instagram when these deadlines are not being applied in negotiations, just on social media. It doesn't really help anyone."
Fury's promoter Frank Warren says he does not know what is preventing the contract being signed.
"Look, we can't go on forever. Tyson is fighting on 3 December whatever happens but this is the fight we want and this is the fight we've worked hard to get over the line," he said on Talksport.
"I, for the life of me, don't know what is holding this up. At the end of the day, he [Joshua] is the boss. Instruct your team if you want the fight.
"I want them to pick up the phone, them to get the contract across, instruct their lawyers to speak to our lawyers and get it over the line. It's not rocket science."
Ukrainian Usyk, 35, said he plans to have three more fights before retiring, including a unification bout with Fury, but Joe Joyce is now the mandatory challenger for Usyk's WBO title after beating Joseph Parker on Saturday.
Fury's last fight was a sixth-round knockout victory over fellow Briton Dillian Whyte in April.
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