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Post by bluetornados on Mar 27, 2023 20:34:49 GMT
Joey Barton weighs in on Harry Kane and Wayne Rooney comparisons as England captain sets record..i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/27/20/69172353-11908281-image-a-50_1679944183378.jpgi2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article26552090.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_GettyImages-114934834.jpgEngland captain Harry Kane became his country's leading goalscorer last week, surpassing Wayne Rooney in the process, but Bristol Rovers manager Joey Barton believes his fellow Evertonian retains the status as the better player at their respective peaks. Kane scored from the penalty spot against Italy in Naples on Thursday as the Three Lions beat the Azzurri away from home for the first time since 1961, and the Tottenham Hotspur star followed that with an instinctive finish in a 2-0 win over Ukraine at Wembley on Sunday as Gareth Southgate's side made a strong start to their Euro 2024 qualifying campaign. Those goals took Kane's tally to 55 in an England shirt, two clear of his predecessor as captain, Wayne Rooney. Naturally, the changing of the guard atop the scoring chart has stoked some debate about the two players, and Barton – who represented England against Spain in 2007, weighed in on social media. "People comparing Wayne Rooney and Harry Kane?" Barton tweeted. "WR in a completely different stratosphere. Levels and levels and levels above." Barton's tweet was accompanied with a screenshot of another user's post, which played down Kane's record by highlighting some of the sides he scored the majority of goals against including San Marino, Panama, Andorra... and Scotland. Barton added: "Respect what Harry Kane has done but let’s settle down on the goal record. Michael Owen, Alan Shearer, Gary Lineker, all light-years ahead as marksmen. Then Rooney (is) just a well better player. The last world-class Englishmen. (Jude) Bellingham has a chance to be world-class of current mob." Rooney (who found the target twice against Scotland and five in matches with San Marino) made 120 appearances for his country, scoring 53 times. His best moments in an England shirt were probably at Euro 2004, when the then-Everton phenom burst onto the international stage with glittering performances before being cruelly forced off in the quarter-finals with a broken foot. From that moment, his performances in tournaments were underwhelming by the huge standards he set himself in a Manchester United shirt in the Premier League, although he was admittedly hampered by injuries in the lead-up to both the 2006 and 2010 World Cups. His career ended with just one World Cup goal, scoring the equaliser against Uruguay in the 2014 group stage before Luis Suarez's late winner that effectively eliminated Roy Hodgson's side. Kane, however, has been more productive in tournament football. He failed to produce at Euro 2016, but he starred in England's runs to the 2018 World Cup semi-final and the Euro 2020 final, winning the golden boot in the former. The 29-year-old scored twice in the 2020 World Cup in Qatar in December, but he missed the decisive penalty as England were eliminated in a hard-fought quarter-final against France. Ultimately, comparing two very different strikers is a difficult task. Very few players ever to lace a pair of boots had comparable peaks to Rooney, but Kane's longevity as one of the best strikers in the world for several seasons, delivering 12 major tournament goals in the process, makes it an intriguing conversation.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 28, 2023 9:16:51 GMT
For once i totally agree with Barton, Kane does not come close to Rooney and Rooney was ruined by Ferguson, playing him in a position that never ever gave him the free role that produced fear in opposing teams. I remember the joy in other teams camps when he got injured. He was a player that induced fear in other teams.
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Post by bluetornados on Apr 14, 2023 22:34:44 GMT
Joey Barton in second Scott Brown dig as he brands Fleetwood chairman a 'fool' for sacking him..by Ben Banksi2-prod.bristolpost.co.uk/incoming/article8334631.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_JMP_Bristol_Rovers_V_Charlton_WC-376.jpgJoey Barton has continued to air his grievance at being sacked by Fleetwood Town - as the former Rangers midfielder insists they were foolish to bin him. The Bristol Rovers boss clashed with Celtic legend Scott Brown on Easter Monday as The Gas came from behind to 2-1 away from home in English League One. Barton was dismissed as Cod Army manager in January 2021 and took over in Bristol a month later, and reignited his feud with Brown from his time at Rangers by claiming his former club's fans would rather have him in charge than the Hoops hero. And in new quotes released by Bristol Live, Barton put some praise on his rival for the job he's done even if it's not in eye-catching style and couldn't resist another dig, this time at Fleetwood chairman Andy Pilley: "He was a fool to sack me, as he knows, and you can see from the style of football and where the club has gone since." On Brown, he added: "To be fair to Scott, he’s turned them around, had a good cup run and picked them up in the table. It’s taken a bit of time. "But your mind just goes into winning the game. I want to beat my children at Connect Four and Tiddlywinks, I don’t give anyone an inch in anything, but there was a bit of added spice for my first visit back here." Brown had said that the eventual winner by Grant Ward was a cross, but Barton wasn't fussed: "I don't care, it’s in the back of the net and we get three points. I don’t want to take the shine off it because it’s a winning goal."
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Apr 15, 2023 6:32:01 GMT
There's one point between these two clubs perching in mid table so he's talking codswallop but I do like the idea of creating an old firm clash between these two minnows to see who gets smashed into the back of the net first.
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Post by bluetornados on May 21, 2023 22:39:18 GMT
Joey Barton makes demand to 'Knollsy' after West Ham fan "flattened all those whoppers"..by Fraser WatsonJoey Barton has made a demand on behalf of West Ham's newest cult hero. Chris 'Knollsy' Knoll has become an internet sensation after his heroic actions at AZ Alkmaar on Thursday night, fighting off ultras who attacked the away supporters after the Europa Conference League clash. A gate previously segregating the two sets of supporters was ripped away as the home fans charged, with the 58-year-old placing himself in the firing line and protecting those around him. And despite a ripped shirt, not to mention still recovering from a recent hip operation, he did a valiant job of fending off the attackers. Once safely home, he told reporters in a video interview that the perpetrators looked like "little ants" as they ran towards those who had made the trip from London. "So I just realised the best form of defence - or the place to put up a defence - would be at the top of the stairwell where it was almost a one on one situation," he explained, before being asked if he considered himself a hero. "No, not at all. There were guys who did exactly the same as I did and there were people behind me as well." The incident followed West Ham's 1-0 win on the night, courtesy of a late Pablo Fornals winner, which gave them a 3-1 aggregate scoreline and sealed a place in a first European final for 47 years. But 'Knollsy', real name Chris Knoll, is currently not heading there. "I'd love to go to Prague," he admitted. "That would be the icing on the cake for the day yesterday. Obviously, the trouble we had, it would almost make it all worthwhile." And now Bristol Rovers manager Barton has led the chorus for the now famous fan to have a place in the stands for the game against Fiorentina on June 7: "Make sure this fella gets a ticket to the final. Flattened all those whoppers…," he tweeted. It proved a popular demand, with @ukroadworks85 tweeting: "I wouldn’t give him a ticket. He should be the team security on the flight and at the stadium for the final," while @stompin_ste added: "Should get full first class treatment." 'Knollsy' has been hailed a hero for his role in preventing rival fans from getting into the West Ham stand in the Netherlands. Reflecting on the incident, he explained: “I don’t like bullies. “You could see they were intent on causing trouble and I did not want them to get to those behind us. I saw them all congregate on the side of the pitch and then they broke down the barriers and headed to the first group of West Ham fans. “I know what they were intent on doing and was not going to let it happen. It was fairly obvious what was going to happen because they were intent on coming to us. They were the ultras, you could see that from what they were wearing. I just decided I wasn't going to let them come up. “I just thought the best form of defence would be to get to the top of the stairs where they were coming up and just stood there and tried to stop them. I know they were swinging punches and I just did my best to stand there and take it.” i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article30001879.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/0_Joey-Barton.png
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Post by eppinggas on May 22, 2023 8:35:23 GMT
'Knollsy' has been hailed a hero for his role in preventing rival fans from getting into the West Ham stand in the Netherlands. Reflecting on the incident, he explained: “I don’t like bullies". Neither do I Knollsy.
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Post by Bath Gas on May 22, 2023 11:31:50 GMT
'Knollsy' has been hailed a hero for his role in preventing rival fans from getting into the West Ham stand in the Netherlands. Reflecting on the incident, he explained: “I don’t like bullies".Neither do I Knollsy. Are you suggesting that he was bully, to stand there and knock back a number of so called "Ultras" who's aim was to get into the stand where players' families were sitting? Those people were looking for trouble, if they got a punch or a kick, they deserved it. Some of the security were more interested in stopping the West Ham players getting to their families, than they were in moving the "Ultras" away.
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Post by eppinggas on May 22, 2023 12:18:08 GMT
'Knollsy' has been hailed a hero for his role in preventing rival fans from getting into the West Ham stand in the Netherlands. Reflecting on the incident, he explained: “I don’t like bullies".Neither do I Knollsy. Are you suggesting that he was bully, to stand there and knock back a number of so called "Ultras" who's aim was to get into the stand where players' families were sitting? Those people were looking for trouble, if they got a punch or a kick, they deserved it. Some of the security were more interested in stopping the West Ham players getting to their families, than they were in moving the "Ultras" away. You're reading too much in it Bath. I don't like bullies.
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Post by oldie on May 22, 2023 12:51:18 GMT
Are you suggesting that he was bully, to stand there and knock back a number of so called "Ultras" who's aim was to get into the stand where players' families were sitting? Those people were looking for trouble, if they got a punch or a kick, they deserved it. Some of the security were more interested in stopping the West Ham players getting to their families, than they were in moving the "Ultras" away. You're reading too much in it Bath. I don't like bullies. Was Barton the only manager to get involved in this on Twitter?
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Post by Bath Gas on May 22, 2023 13:31:02 GMT
Are you suggesting that he was bully, to stand there and knock back a number of so called "Ultras" who's aim was to get into the stand where players' families were sitting? Those people were looking for trouble, if they got a punch or a kick, they deserved it. Some of the security were more interested in stopping the West Ham players getting to their families, than they were in moving the "Ultras" away. You're reading too much in it Bath. I don't like bullies. Got you.
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Post by Bath Gas on May 22, 2023 13:31:49 GMT
You're reading too much in it Bath. I don't like bullies. Was Barton the only manager to get involved in this on Twitter? If you're that interested, have a look. I know that various players responded to it in a positive manner.
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Post by baselswh on May 22, 2023 13:42:12 GMT
You're reading too much in it Bath. I don't like bullies. Was Barton the only manager to get involved in this on Twitter? The guy's a big shot Oldie. Hot dog!
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Post by oldie on May 22, 2023 13:54:23 GMT
Was Barton the only manager to get involved in this on Twitter? The guy's a big shot Oldie. Hot dog! Dijon mustard with onions please
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Post by baselswh on May 22, 2023 13:57:38 GMT
The guy's a big shot Oldie. Hot dog! Dijon mustard with onions please Bilingual! Moaning in two languages!
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Post by oldie on May 22, 2023 14:04:48 GMT
Was Barton the only manager to get involved in this on Twitter? If you're that interested, have a look. I know that various players responded to it in a positive manner. It was a genuine question because I was surprised that Barton would, given the controversy around violence that has plagued him
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Post by One F in Dunford on May 22, 2023 14:39:16 GMT
If you're that interested, have a look. I know that various players responded to it in a positive manner. It was a genuine question because I was surprised that Barton would, given the controversy around violence that has plagued him Why? If you saw people preparing to attack families, would you not praise the person that fought off the attackers?
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Post by oldie on May 22, 2023 14:50:52 GMT
It was a genuine question because I was surprised that Barton would, given the controversy around violence that has plagued him Why? If you saw people preparing to attack families, would you not praise the person that fought off the attackers? Generally yes, but you know what it's like at football games, who knows who said what or provoked the situation. It's unacceptable whatever the circumstances and in the main it is best to allow the security and police deal with it. I do find it strange when grown men behave like this and even stranger when there is a degree of glorification, especially from those that were not there
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Post by One F in Dunford on May 22, 2023 15:51:43 GMT
Why? If you saw people preparing to attack families, would you not praise the person that fought off the attackers? Generally yes, but you know what it's like at football games, who knows who said what or provoked the situation. It's unacceptable whatever the circumstances and in the main it is best to allow the security and police deal with it. I do find it strange when grown men behave like this and even stranger when there is a degree of glorification, especially from those that were not there Did you not see the video? The attackers were running into the stand with no security or police in site. The chap stopped them getting into the stand where families were.
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Post by Cheshiregas on May 22, 2023 16:49:17 GMT
Why? If you saw people preparing to attack families, would you not praise the person that fought off the attackers? Generally yes, but you know what it's like at football games, who knows who said what or provoked the situation. It's unacceptable whatever the circumstances and in the main it is best to allow the security and police deal with it. I do find it strange when grown men behave like this and even stranger when there is a degree of glorification, especially from those that were not there There is some background to this. The Alkmaar families and friends were moved from their seats at the Olympic Stadium following verbal abuse from West Ham fans. www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/west-ham-fans-attack-az-alkmaar-players-friends-and-families-as-they-are-left-terrified-in-london-stadium-incident/ar-AA1b5BisThat does not condone the violence at Alkmaar though. The problem lies with UEFA who require the teams to seat family and friends near to the dug outs. This is most often in the middle of the home fans. Not exactly sensible.
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Post by oldie on May 22, 2023 17:13:14 GMT
Generally yes, but you know what it's like at football games, who knows who said what or provoked the situation. It's unacceptable whatever the circumstances and in the main it is best to allow the security and police deal with it. I do find it strange when grown men behave like this and even stranger when there is a degree of glorification, especially from those that were not there There is some background to this. The Alkmaar families and friends were moved from their seats at the Olympic Stadium following verbal abuse from West Ham fans. www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/west-ham-fans-attack-az-alkmaar-players-friends-and-families-as-they-are-left-terrified-in-london-stadium-incident/ar-AA1b5BisThat does not condone the violence at Alkmaar though. The problem lies with UEFA who require the teams to seat family and friends near to the dug outs. This is most often in the middle of the home fans. Not exactly sensible. There you go. It's never quite clear cut when it comes to fan behaviour. Which is one reason why Barton should shut up and not get involved
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