Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Dec 5, 2022 19:19:07 GMT
Russia getting some of their own medecine - every little helps. www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/05/strikes-deep-inside-russia-highlight-ukraines-tactical-ingenuityUkrainian officials have recently been hinting at developments in the country’s grinding war with Russia. A long-range rocket, perhaps? Or a homemade modified drone? The apparent evidence of a new and unexpected weapon was visible on Monday morning, when mysterious explosions hit two Russian airbases. Both took place a long way from the frontlines. Video from Russian social media showed a blast at the Engels-2 airbase in Russia’s Saratov region. Another happened at the Dyagilevo military airbase near Ryazan, a city just 150 miles from Moscow and Vladimir Putin’s Kremlin. According to Russian state media, three people at the base were killed and five injured when a fuel truck went up in flames. At least two planes were reportedly damaged. The exact cause of the explosion was uncertain. But it appears Ukraine has found a way to target Russia’s long range Tu-95 and Tu-22M aircraft, which are stationed at the airstrips. Since October the Kremlin had used these strategic bombers to wreck Ukraine’s energy infrastructure, bit by bit, leaving millions without heat and electricity as winter arrives. There is speculation Kyiv has developed a strike drone with an astonishing 1,000km range. Late last month a Ukrainian serviceman said the weapon had already been used against the Russian military. If accurate, this means much of European Russia is now in reach. And that the asymmetric advantage Moscow has enjoyed this year – the ability to launch cruise missiles safely from deep inside Russia itself – is under threat.
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Post by bluetornados on Dec 12, 2022 9:13:11 GMT
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Post by alftupper on Dec 12, 2022 11:10:40 GMT
Wouldn`t have been locked up in WW2. The Russians had blocking detachments, machine guns set up after the last of the attackers had gone forward. Any hesitation, and they were shot down from behind by their own men. According to Anthony Bevor, they shot 13,000 of their own soldiers, at Stalingrad alone.
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Post by lostinspace on Dec 12, 2022 11:29:59 GMT
Wouldn`t have been locked up in WW2. The Russians had blocking detachments, machine guns set up after the last of the attackers had gone forward. Any hesitation, and they were shot down from behind by their own men. According to Anthony Bevor, they shot 13,000 of their own soldiers, at Stalingrad alone. apparently this situation is in operation at some "front line positions" ...so nothing has changed apart from the scale of murdering their own so called army
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Post by lostinspace on Dec 21, 2022 18:30:49 GMT
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Post by bluetornados on Dec 21, 2022 20:55:10 GMT
Goes to show how deluded this vile human being is, the 1000's of disgusting deaths are a violation of the laws of war. This man thinks that all that has happened in the Ukraine is a shared tragedy, quite incredible how these dictators think.
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Post by alftupper on Dec 22, 2022 8:26:18 GMT
Glad he doesn`t see the UK as a "brotherly nation".
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 18, 2023 16:47:15 GMT
Vladimir Putin and two friends, a Chechen warlord and an Amur Oblast governor, had car trouble in the countryside, before they asked to spend the night with a farmer. The farmer said, "There might be a problem; you see, I only have room for two to sleep, so one of you must sleep in the barn." "No problem," chimed the Chechen, "My people fought for forty years, I am humble enough to sleep in the barn for an evening." With that he departed to the barn and the others bedded down for the night. Moments later a knock was heard at the door; the farmer opened the door. There, from the barn, stood the warlord. "What's wrong?" asked the farmer. He replied, "I am grateful to you, but I can't sleep in the barn. There is a pig in the barn, and my Muslim faith believes them to be unclean animals." His Buddhist friend agrees to swap places with him. But a few minutes later, the scene reoccurs, after another knock on the door. "What's wrong, now?" the farmer asks. The Buddhist governor replies, "I too am grateful for your helping us out, but there is a cow in the barn and in my country, cows are considered sacred. I can't sleep near a cow" Well, that leaves only Vladimir to make the change. He grumbled and complained but went out to the barn. Moments later there was another knock on the farmer's door. Frustrated and tired, the farmer opens the door, and there stood.... the pig and the cow.
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Post by alftupper on Jan 18, 2023 19:24:15 GMT
Vladimir Putin and two friends, a Chechen warlord and an Amur Oblast governor, had car trouble in the countryside, before they asked to spend the night with a farmer. The farmer said, "There might be a problem; you see, I only have room for two to sleep, so one of you must sleep in the barn." "No problem," chimed the Chechen, "My people fought for forty years, I am humble enough to sleep in the barn for an evening." With that he departed to the barn and the others bedded down for the night. Moments later a knock was heard at the door; the farmer opened the door. There, from the barn, stood the warlord. "What's wrong?" asked the farmer. He replied, "I am grateful to you, but I can't sleep in the barn. There is a pig in the barn, and my Muslim faith believes them to be unclean animals." His Buddhist friend agrees to swap places with him. But a few minutes later, the scene reoccurs, after another knock on the door. "What's wrong, now?" the farmer asks. The Buddhist governor replies, "I too am grateful for your helping us out, but there is a cow in the barn and in my country, cows are considered sacred. I can't sleep near a cow" Well, that leaves only Vladimir to make the change. He grumbled and complained but went out to the barn. Moments later there was another knock on the farmer's door. Frustrated and tired, the farmer opens the door, and there stood.... the pig and the cow. You won`t be laughing, when the Novichok starts taking effect.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 19, 2023 14:43:15 GMT
Not much movement from either side at the moment. We hear constantly of a planned Russian spring offensive, but I seriously doubt that that will happen. I get the impression that the Ukes are happy at the moment to pin and hold the Russians, while they are planning their own spring offensive to start around April/May. Using allied intelligence they will be identifying any weakness in the Russian line, and let's not forget it's about 700km long.
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 19, 2023 17:32:03 GMT
Not much movement from either side at the moment. We hear constantly of a planned Russian spring offensive, but I seriously doubt that that will happen. I get the impression that the Ukes are happy at the moment to pin and hold the Russians, while they are planning their own spring offensive to start around April/May. Using allied intelligence they will be identifying any weakness in the Russian line, and let's not forget it's about 700km long. Would you think that at some time, the U's will traverse across the border to make a point, seen the odd " underground" type hit but nothing substantial to create real havoc
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 19, 2023 18:43:08 GMT
Not much movement from either side at the moment. We hear constantly of a planned Russian spring offensive, but I seriously doubt that that will happen. I get the impression that the Ukes are happy at the moment to pin and hold the Russians, while they are planning their own spring offensive to start around April/May. Using allied intelligence they will be identifying any weakness in the Russian line, and let's not forget it's about 700km long. Would you think that at some time, the U's will traverse across the border to make a point, seen the odd " underground" type hit but nothing substantial to create real havoc Not really. I think they will continue to do as they are doing in Russia, which is limited strikes. They will want to keep as much as they can to force Russia out of Ukraine. There is also the political problem that would arise if we saw German or US made tanks rolling into Russia. You always have to have that nuclear option in the back of your mind. The Ukes just need to keep doing as I said at the very start of this conflict, and that is to avoid a slugging match with the Russians. The Uke have to fight smart. Be mobile, move fast, as the Russians still outman them and outgun them. There could be some interesting developments tomorrow as their is a huge meeting in Ramstein between the allies. There is the possibility of Ukraine receiving a couple of hundred Leopard 2 tanks from various countries. If that were to happen it could make a huge difference. There will be huge pressure on Germany to make this happen. When you sale weapons to another country, they are issued End User Licences. This means the buyer just cannot give those weapons to someone else without the agreement of the Seller. This is to stop a country buying something and then say handing it over to Syria. So, there are many countries with Leopard 2 tanks but they cannot just give then to Ukraine without permission from Germany. So far, Germany has refused to give that permission. It could all change tomorrow.
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Post by alftupper on Jan 20, 2023 7:31:34 GMT
Would you think that at some time, the U's will traverse across the border to make a point, seen the odd " underground" type hit but nothing substantial to create real havoc Not really. I think they will continue to do as they are doing in Russia, which is limited strikes. They will want to keep as much as they can to force Russia out of Ukraine. There is also the political problem that would arise if we saw German or US made tanks rolling into Russia. You always have to have that nuclear option in the back of your mind. The Ukes just need to keep doing as I said at the very start of this conflict, and that is to avoid a slugging match with the Russians. The Uke have to fight smart. Be mobile, move fast, as the Russians still outman them and outgun them. There could be some interesting developments tomorrow as their is a huge meeting in Ramstein between the allies. There is the possibility of Ukraine receiving a couple of hundred Leopard 2 tanks from various countries. If that were to happen it could make a huge difference. There will be huge pressure on Germany to make this happen. When you sale weapons to another country, they are issued End User Licences. This means the buyer just cannot give those weapons to someone else without the agreement of the Seller. This is to stop a country buying something and then say handing it over to Syria. So, there are many countries with Leopard 2 tanks but they cannot just give then to Ukraine without permission from Germany. So far, Germany has refused to give that permission. It could all change tomorrow. Given the apparent vulnerabity of tanks on the Ukrainian battlefield, is it not surprising that countries are unwilling to supply them? Also, I hope that the Frecce Tricolori steer clear of the skies over Ramstein. Or was that a different Ramstein?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 20, 2023 10:42:22 GMT
Not really. I think they will continue to do as they are doing in Russia, which is limited strikes. They will want to keep as much as they can to force Russia out of Ukraine. There is also the political problem that would arise if we saw German or US made tanks rolling into Russia. You always have to have that nuclear option in the back of your mind. The Ukes just need to keep doing as I said at the very start of this conflict, and that is to avoid a slugging match with the Russians. The Uke have to fight smart. Be mobile, move fast, as the Russians still outman them and outgun them. There could be some interesting developments tomorrow as their is a huge meeting in Ramstein between the allies. There is the possibility of Ukraine receiving a couple of hundred Leopard 2 tanks from various countries. If that were to happen it could make a huge difference. There will be huge pressure on Germany to make this happen. When you sale weapons to another country, they are issued End User Licences. This means the buyer just cannot give those weapons to someone else without the agreement of the Seller. This is to stop a country buying something and then say handing it over to Syria. So, there are many countries with Leopard 2 tanks but they cannot just give then to Ukraine without permission from Germany. So far, Germany has refused to give that permission. It could all change tomorrow. Given the apparent vulnerabity of tanks on the Ukrainian battlefield, is it not surprising that countries are unwilling to supply them? Also, I hope that the Frecce Tricolori steer clear of the skies over Ramstein. Or was that a different Ramstein? Many countries are willing to supply them. It's the Germans holding things up by not granting permission. Tanks still are very important on the battlefield, if used correctly in an all-arms scenario. The Russians don't seem to understand this which is why their tank losses are so high. I get the impression that Poland will supple their Leopard 2's without waiting for the German permission.
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Post by alftupper on Jan 20, 2023 10:52:13 GMT
Given the apparent vulnerabity of tanks on the Ukrainian battlefield, is it not surprising that countries are unwilling to supply them? Also, I hope that the Frecce Tricolori steer clear of the skies over Ramstein. Or was that a different Ramstein? Tanks still are very important on the battlefield, if used correctly in an all-arms scenario. The Russians don't seem to understand this which is why their tank losses are so high. Sending tanks in, without infantry support?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 20, 2023 10:59:22 GMT
Tanks still are very important on the battlefield, if used correctly in an all-arms scenario. The Russians don't seem to understand this which is why their tank losses are so high. Sending tanks in, without infantry support? Yeah. You see video after video of Russian tanks isolated, and then being destroyed. They need infantry support, and if possible, overhead support. For example, the British would also have Apache helicopters involved. Oh, and it looks like Poland has had enough "Poland has had enough of Germany’s nonsense. On supplying Leopard 2 tanks to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Poland’s PM Mateusz Morawiecki said: “Consent is of secondary importance here. We will either obtain this consent quickly, or we will do the right thing ourselves.”
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Post by alftupper on Jan 20, 2023 11:39:42 GMT
Sending tanks in, without infantry support? On supplying Leopard 2 tanks to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Poland’s PM Mateusz Morawiecki said: “Consent is of secondary importance here. We will either obtain this consent quickly, or we will do the right thing ourselves.” Somebody said once, Germany usually end up doing the right thing. After they`ve tried everything else.
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 25, 2023 18:01:22 GMT
German Chancellor has approved supply of the Leopard tank from it's own stock and also given permission for other holders of this machine to send them to Ukraine.. Followed later by the USA and their special bit of kit the Abraham's,( though not likely to be there for at least 8 weeks!! interesting times ahead
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Post by alftupper on Jan 26, 2023 7:28:14 GMT
German Chancellor has approved supply of the Leopard tank from it's own stock and also given permission for other holders of this machine to send them to Ukraine.. Followed later by the USA and their special bit of kit the Abraham's,( though not likely to be there for at least 8 weeks!! interesting times ahead German tanks fighting on the eastern front. It`ll be just like the old days.
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 26, 2023 8:15:55 GMT
German Chancellor has approved supply of the Leopard tank from it's own stock and also given permission for other holders of this machine to send them to Ukraine.. Followed later by the USA and their special bit of kit the Abraham's,( though not likely to be there for at least 8 weeks!! interesting times ahead German tanks fighting on the eastern front. It`ll be just like the old days. watch the film "All quiet on the western front" excellent film .. scenes in it that are reminiscent of "modern day" Ukraine, with the wanton destruction of anything that is close by the invaders, just for the sake of it
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