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Post by warehamgas on Sept 7, 2022 10:36:06 GMT
Sat here watching an entertaining half hour from the Somerset tail to lessen the deficit to under a 100. Gloucestershire now batting and looking to set a target and get us in tonight I’d have thought. Gloucestershire need to win we’d be happy with a draw after day 1.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 7, 2022 14:33:35 GMT
Latest from Taunton on day 3 of 4 - 3.33pm.
Gloucestershire 343 all out (102.1 overs), Harris 159, Charlesworth 56, O Price 52, Gregory 4-62.
Somerset 248 all out (81.3 overs) Imam 90, Bartlett 33, Rew 44no, T Price 5-75, Singh-Dale 2-50.
Gloucestershire 143-2 (59 overs) O Price 53, Charlesworth 46no, Harris 21, Davey 1-10.
Gloucestershire lead Somerset by 238 runs with 8 wickets remaining
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 7, 2022 19:25:22 GMT
Not the best days cricket though compelling in its own way. The weather forecast looks very poor for tomorrow and I thought Gloucestershire would be more adventurous but the run rate was pretty mediocre. I thought they’d want to be in a position to declare and have an hour at us today seeing as they need to win whilst we’ll be happy with a draw given that Kent and Northamptonshire look likely to lose. Looks like an overnight declaration and Gloucestershire hoping to bowl us out in the time they get.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 7, 2022 20:49:25 GMT
Not the best days cricket though compelling in its own way. The weather forecast looks very poor for tomorrow and I thought Gloucestershire would be more adventurous but the run rate was pretty mediocre. I thought they’d want to be in a position to declare and have an hour at us today seeing as they need to win whilst we’ll be happy with a draw given that Kent and Northamptonshire look likely to lose. Looks like an overnight declaration and Gloucestershire hoping to bowl us out in the time they get. Yes, Agree seems a strange thing not to declare and have 10 overs or so, the lead was big enough not to lose the game and weather permitting will be a slow last day. Gloucestershire 246-5 (92 overs) O Price 53, Charlesworth 64, Hammond 53, Sajid 2-69. Gloucestershire lead Somerset by 341 runs with 5 wickets remaining
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 8, 2022 14:51:50 GMT
Gloucestershire 279-7 (96 overs) O Price 53, Charlesworth 64, Hammond 53, Davey 2-42.
Somerset 11-0 (3.5 overs) - Match Drawn.
Quite incredible how Gloucestershire messed up the chance of 20 odd overs, just to have a go.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 8, 2022 17:33:46 GMT
Well I’ve seen every ball though not many today. Quite a strange match in that Gloucestershire more or less outplayed us for all sessions except yesterday afternoon yet we finish with only 1 point less. With Kent and Northamptonshire losing it was overall a good 4 days for us. FWIW, I thought Gloucestershire really should have gone for it yesterday afternoon but I guess they were afraid of collapsing and letting us win with perhaps only 250 to chase. Especially with Price, Charlesworth and Hammond in play who appeared in good form. Whatever, Somerset bowled ok but nothing special though Khan bowled well and was unlucky not to get more wickets. Gloucestershire should take something from this match, both Prices looked good as did Charlesworth and I was impressed by the fast bowler Singh-Dale though his bowling action must put his body under real pressure.
edit: Just seen Gloucestershire had 2 points deducted for a slow over rate, so 12 points each.
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Post by jackthegas on Sept 12, 2022 15:59:59 GMT
Well I’ve seen every ball though not many today. Quite a strange match in that Gloucestershire more or less outplayed us for all sessions except yesterday afternoon yet we finish with only 1 point less. With Kent and Northamptonshire losing it was overall a good 4 days for us. FWIW, I thought Gloucestershire really should have gone for it yesterday afternoon but I guess they were afraid of collapsing and letting us win with perhaps only 250 to chase. Especially with Price, Charlesworth and Hammond in play who appeared in good form. Whatever, Somerset bowled ok but nothing special though Khan bowled well and was unlucky not to get more wickets. Gloucestershire should take something from this match, both Prices looked good as did Charlesworth and I was impressed by the fast bowler Singh-Dale though his bowling action must put his body under real pressure. edit: Just seen Gloucestershire had 2 points deducted for a slow over rate, so 12 points each. I know the last day was a wash out, and you can't legislate for that, but I thought Glos were really negative in that third innings. If they had scored at 3.5 an over they'd have given themselves the option of bowling at Somerset that evening. They weren't to know that the last day would be a washout. I know we lost at Northants, but at least we lost giving it a go and trying to set up a win. Not sure whether the statistics back this up, but I feel like Gloucestershire's batting has been OK this season. We've scored enough runs to have been competitive. Our bowling on the other hand has been disastrous. Some mitigation when you consider that Payne has missed most of the season and the quick bowlers we've picked up from Pakistan have picked up injuries too.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 12, 2022 20:43:26 GMT
They were far too negative jack. And today shows the reason why it was a mistake to be so negative. We are struggling to put a score over 200 in the first innings and we appear to be never far away from a collapse. Thank goodness for Lewis Gregory today, supported by Khan and Davey. I’m sure it’s why Abell put Gloucestershire in last week. Today he won the loss and batted. Today explained why he fielded first last week. Our batsmen need to step up!
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Post by jackthegas on Sept 22, 2022 18:17:14 GMT
Gloucestershire have finally won a game. We've been nailed on for promotion since the home game against Somerset, so I'm just pleased we managed to win a game. Price showing there's life after Higgins, but I do think we've missed a trick but but using some of our young prospects a bit more often this season.
I read an interview with Higgins and he basically said that he felt that things weren't the same after Dawson let and Benkeinstein replaced him. Feels like a big off season for Gloucester. I hope we can retain the rest of our squad.
Any thoughts on the Strauss high performance review? I hear talk of compromise, but I don't see much. Fewer championship and blast fixtures. 6 teams in the top division is nonsense. How does that promote anything other than short-termism? I might have been more receptive to a top division of 12. No cricket at 10 first class grounds in August. No international cricket in August. Obviously the hundred is untouched. Surely the counties throw the proposal out?
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 23, 2022 12:52:48 GMT
Gloucestershire have finally won a game. We've been nailed on for promotion since the home game against Somerset, so I'm just pleased we managed to win a game. Price showing there's life after Higgins, but I do think we've missed a trick but but using some of our young prospects a bit more often this season. I read an interview with Higgins and he basically said that he felt that things weren't the same after Dawson let and Benkeinstein replaced him. Feels like a big off season for Gloucester. I hope we can retain the rest of our squad. Any thoughts on the Strauss high performance review? I hear talk of compromise, but I don't see much. Fewer championship and blast fixtures. 6 teams in the top division is nonsense. How does that promote anything other than short-termism? I might have been more receptive to a top division of 12. No cricket at 10 first class grounds in August. No international cricket in August. Obviously the hundred is untouched. Surely the counties throw the proposal out? Yes Gloucestershire did win a game and their beating Warwickshire yesterday provided the biggest cheer of the day in Taunton. I’ve been in Taunton for the first three days of the Northampton match and Somerset have just about done enough to get the draw. I’m not there this morning though I’ve watched the live stream. What was looking like a draw may yet turn into a Somerset win after a great I’ve-got-something-to-prove performance from Craig O. He has bowled very well in both innings and today he may yet turn it into a match winning performance. I don’t know enough about Gloucestershire to comment with any great insight but the performances of several players in September will have given some hope regarding next season. Tom Price has bowled very well and seems a great prospect. Charlesworth and Ollie Price have been similar as batsmen. It must have been good to see Dent give some leadership in this match and van Burren to put in a captain’s innings when panic might have set in with being 4 wickets down yesterday. Bracey has had a disappointing season, it’s taking a long time to recover from his England experience. My thoughts on the Strauss High Performance Review: ...It’s just that a review of what the England players may need and he’s looked at the structure of English cricket without having talked to any leaders, members or watchers of county cricket esp in the shires. It may answer some of the concerns regarding the England team and players but I’d suggest it does nothing at all to protect the clubs who produce the players who play for England. To date no 16.4 franchise has produced a single player who has or will play for England. Nor will they, it will remain the Counties who do that. At the current time those at the top see the Counties as the problem but when it comes to producing the players for Club England to use then the Counties are the solution, no Counties no England players to play for England. ... So many anomalies in the current England set up. Foakes and Pope were allowed to play for Surrey in this current rounder yet no Joe Root playing for Yorkshire who could still go down. Craig Overton not allowed to play for Somerset on T20 finals day yet other players were! It makes no sense and helps to alienate members from the clubs from those at the top. ...I agree with all you've said about the proposal of 6 teams in Division 1 of the CC so I won’t go deeper. This season we play Kent and Northamptonshire only once each, and this in the last two matches when most things are settled. Yet we played Surrey and Hampshire twice. No real argument with that except to say I think we would have done better had that been reversed! My point is for any league to have integrity and credibility we need to play each team home and away. That hasn’t happened for a few years. It may happen in the Strauss proposal but only 10 games!! It won’t happen. Turkeys (the Counties) won’t vote for Christmas ( fewer games and less income). ...I understand that at least 12 out of 18 Counties will need to vote for the proposals. Looking at the press yesterday, Essex and Sussex came out against them straight away. Middlesex and Surrey are waiting for consultations with members whist Somerset came out last week against them after hearing of the main points. I can’t think Leicestershire, Derbyshire, Northamptonshire or Worcestershire voting for the proposals as they stand. I don’t think they will be accepted in their current form. Strauss is too closely aligned to Sky and his independence is compromised by that. What is best for Sky is most certainly not best for County Cricket and most people know that. ...It was a big topic of conversation at Taunton over the past 3 days. So our days of cricket will go down from 7x4 to 5x4, quite a difference. Then take away those matches that end in 3 days and rain affected matches and it becomes unlikely that membership will survive. Will Somerset I’d any club get as many members as they have had. I doubt it talking to friends and colleagues near where I sit in Taunton. And there would be no way that test players will be produced on the number if days cricket that might happen. And that’s all without commenting in the fewer T20 matches which are sold at at Taunton and the Oval! ...But it was interesting to see that Strauss says he will be talking to County Chairmen and “trying to persuade them to see the bigger picture.” In other words financial pressure will be used and arm twisting employed to get the proposals through. Strauss will have lost a lot of respect for his past good work because it certainly looks like he’s produced a report to fit what his masters want. What will happen? I think a further few months of consultation will result in some final proposal being accepted by the Counties that will protect their income streams. But that may take some time as I think the counties are quite angry about what Strauss has produced.
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 23, 2022 16:12:12 GMT
Think the proposals are a death knellfor the shire teams in their current form, the money invested in grounds like Somerset and Gloucester will IMO become a burden on them ,will result in lower amounts of ST's being sold, it won't alter the fact that the limited season could in fact become a total washout with just 6 "County" games being played,the emphasis on LO cricket is just dumb unless you just want persistent OD champions in England, the hundred is an illustration of what happens to " franchise" cricket both here and abroad where the winners will be a limited few,and those teams will always have the clout to attract the better players on offer, becoming a rather boring predictable spectacle ( never watched any of it this summer), If there is " sweeteners bring offered, how long will that last? The pot will run dry eventually...just look at the clubs in the Rugby premiership struggling because of outlandish wages and insufficient gate money and sponsorship to cover them, apparently one of Bristol Bears players are on one million a season!!! I fear the worse for those Counties who are " not among the chosen/ favoured few"....and Somerset won by a landslide!!
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 23, 2022 16:44:23 GMT
The 100 has to go, but the ECB will never admit that it is a mistake. No Test cricket in August next year is an abomination.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 24, 2022 10:04:10 GMT
The 100 has to go, but the ECB will never admit that it is a mistake. No Test cricket in August next year is an abomination. And that’s it in a nutshell. They will never admit it’s wrong and was a bad decision. Were they starting afresh now it would never happen.
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Post by jackthegas on Sept 30, 2022 11:17:10 GMT
What a great end to the CC season. The competition rarely fails to produce drama right up to the end of the season. Glos played a big part in relegating Yorkshire, by beating them at Headingly and then former Glos bowler Liam Norwell bowling Hampshire out for Warwickshire yesterday. All the more remarkable given that he clearly isn't really fit enough to play at the moment.
From Gloucestershire's perspective, we definitely deserve to go down. In the 3 years before this one, we've been competitive in almost every game and the points system in the County Championship rewards that. You can't afford to lose 8 games, some of which we lost by a country mile having collected almost no points. With the exception of the two final games, their inability to take 20 wickets has cost them. If we had a bit more luck with injuries and more nouse, we might have taken another 16 points off Northampton, one we failed to win with Northants 8 down and the second we lost trying to set up a win. Even then, we'd have finished bottom, even with 3 wins.
I think perhaps the loss of Dan Worrall has had a bigger impact than I'd appreciated. He's had a great season for Surrey and I think he's been a big influence on their dressing room.
I know Harris is back next season, and hopefully Payne and Dent will be available a bit more often, but we've got some work to do in the market. If Gohar can be re-signed, then we are going to need to find an English qualified quick to lead the line, especially without Higgins. If we don't resign Gohar, we might go down the overseas route, but we will need to find a spinner from somewhere. Gohar has taken 40 wickets this season. That would be really tough to replace if we can't keep him.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 30, 2022 15:03:55 GMT
What a great end to the CC season. The competition rarely fails to produce drama right up to the end of the season. Glos played a big part in relegating Yorkshire, by beating them at Headingly and then former Glos bowler Liam Norwell bowling Hampshire out for Warwickshire yesterday. All the more remarkable given that he clearly isn't really fit enough to play at the moment. From Gloucestershire's perspective, we definitely deserve to go down. In the 3 years before this one, we've been competitive in almost every game and the points system in the County Championship rewards that. You can't afford to lose 8 games, some of which we lost by a country mile having collected almost no points. With the exception of the two final games, their inability to take 20 wickets has cost them. If we had a bit more luck with injuries and more nouse, we might have taken another 16 points off Northampton, one we failed to win with Northants 8 down and the second we lost trying to set up a win. Even then, we'd have finished bottom, even with 3 wins. I think perhaps the loss of Dan Worrall has had a bigger impact than I'd appreciated. He's had a great season for Surrey and I think he's been a big influence on their dressing room. I know Harris is back next season, and hopefully Payne and Dent will be available a bit more often, but we've got some work to do in the market. If Gohar can be re-signed, then we are going to need to find an English qualified quick to lead the line, especially without Higgins. If we don't resign Gohar, we might go down the overseas route, but we will need to find a spinner from somewhere. Gohar has taken 40 wickets this season. That would be really tough to replace if we can't keep him. It was a good end to the season and showed what red ball cricket can be like. And tbf, last season was very similar with Hampshire, Lancashire and Warwickshire all gong into the last day of the season with a chance to win the County Championship. Gloucestershire left it too late but they put in some good performances in September which should be a platform for next year. I don’t keep such a close eye as you do jack but they seem to have discovered some good young talent. I only saw them at Taunton, but the Price brothers looked good as did Singh-Dale. Is Gofar one of their own because he has had a decent season and with Van Burran should give them a good spin attack. And being in Division 2 will make them competitive at least. Warwickshire avoiding relegation never looked possible until the last 15 minutes of the season. It’s probably not a popular view but I do feel sorry for Yorkshire. Never in the bottom two until the last 15 minutes of the season and they really should have beaten Gloucestershire in that final match. They will be clear favourites for the Division next season and will likely win it. Their attack is good with Fisher, Coad and Thompson being Division 1 players. Again, imo. No wonder the Yorkshire members are angry about what’s happened. A combination of the fall-out from the racism row and England on-selections has left the paying members understandably angry. Crawley played for Kent, yet Root rarely plays for Yorkshire. (You could add Bairstow, Wiley into that though neither would have been available for this last match) According to Yorkshire fans Root was playing golf in Scotland as they got relegated. Whilst I’m sure there will be reasons given and excuses rolled out I find it incredible. Either me and lots of others are correct or we have become dinosaurs who know b***** all in this age where few players seem to have any loyalty or sense of responsibility towards the Counties who made them. Thank goodness Craig O wants to play for us and has great loyalty. Without him I think we’d have gone down instead of Yorkshire despite Tom Abell’s runs this season. Looking forward to next season already. The addition of Kohler-Cadmore and Sean Dickson should give our batting more solidarity and makes it likely that we'll recruit overseas bowlers to supplement our ageing (?) attack. Brooks can do it in bursts, esp against Warwickshire, Davey is still ok but Overton’s form could enable him to carry drinks at the tests next year and Gregory’s vulnerable back may mean we’ve seen the best of him. I hope not but it doesn’t look reliable. Our youngest fast bowlers, esp Aldridge will be better next year and Sonny Baker will get more game time. Overall we’ve struggled to bowl teams out twice which is very different to the last 10 years. The signs were there last season and we’ve just about got away with it this year but without additional bowlers I fear for our survival next year. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see a top overseas spinner employed given Leach may well be away with England. A fast bowler from overseas would be a given, at the moment, but things may change.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 30, 2022 15:08:33 GMT
Anyway the domestic season has now finished so thanks everyone for posting and making coming on here interesting. 👍👍👍 Although of course lots of international cricket to come. But domestic cricket is my favourite and the area I have most interest in. Have a great winter everyone.
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Post by lostinspace on Nov 30, 2022 10:18:23 GMT
fixtures for next season 2023 are released and again gives August away for the Hundred and limited over cricket....NO championship cricket at all ,Somerset start with a home fixture against Warwickshire
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 30, 2022 23:26:36 GMT
fixtures for next season 2023 are released and again gives August away for the Hundred and limited over cricket....NO championship cricket at all ,Somerset start with a home fixture against Warwickshire Indeed. Start with Warwickshire and end with Warwickshire in September. Only 4 days of cricket in the Royal London at Taunton in August. No competitive cricket at all against Yorkshire or Leicestershire. I will miss not playing Yorkshire at all, unless we play in the latter stages of the RLC or T20. Scheduling, pathetic by the ECB.
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