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Post by warehamgas on May 12, 2022 16:49:24 GMT
Both Somerset and Gloucestershire have suffered from injuries so far this season, Somerset played several academy players down at the Ageas and Gloucestershire have gone down the loan route. Hampshire have really benefitted from both of our injury situations so far. But Somerset are, I would say, at their strongest bowling wise with both Siddle and Overton esp turning in some really impressive spells so far.
Did the wicket look suspect for Gloucestershire to put Somerset in? All the batsmen chipped in and Renshaw and Abell are both in a rich vein of form at the moment. Could be a good, close match. Will need to see Gloucestershire bat before seeing if the Gloucestershire decision to put Somerset in was a good one or a bad one which it looked like when we were 171-0. Time will tell.
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Post by lostinspace on May 12, 2022 17:25:34 GMT
close of play 319 - 4, with 4 half centuries on the board, not a regular thing
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Post by lostinspace on May 13, 2022 11:47:37 GMT
Abell gets his century just now as Somerset continue to rack up the score 435 - 5 off 121 overs.. Bracey catching 3 batsmen behind the stumps
Somerset declare on 591 -7, and in reply Gloucester lose their first wicket Scott to Siddle ..first ball!!!
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Post by warehamgas on May 14, 2022 13:24:31 GMT
Now following on. Looking at some of the wickets to go down the batsmen have made some poor shots. Leach has just bowled a nagging length with a little variation in height. But it’s frustrated the batsmen. Watching it, Somerset should win but it’s as good a wicket as it was in Somerset’s innings. Should be some runs for any batsman willing to bat patiently and bide their time.
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Post by lostinspace on May 14, 2022 16:15:58 GMT
Glouc's in dire straights, heavy defeat on the cards, imagine it to be one of the heaviest against Somerset in a very long time
Innings and 246 runs , Somerset continue to recover from their awful start to this season's campaign with an impressive win over their injury hit opponents
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Post by bluetornados on May 14, 2022 20:35:18 GMT
Well done to Somerset in their massive innings and 246 run win on day 3 of 4.
Somerset are now in mid table while Gloucestershire languish in the bottom 2.
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Post by warehamgas on May 15, 2022 15:17:06 GMT
Glouc's in dire straights, heavy defeat on the cards, imagine it to be one of the heaviest against Somerset in a very long time Innings and 246 runs , Somerset continue to recover from their awful start to this season's campaign with an impressive win over their injury hit opponents It’s the widest winning margin for Somerset ever against Gloucestershire which was just as well looking at the weather today! Phew! |
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Post by jackthegas on May 16, 2022 15:40:36 GMT
Saturday was absolutely woeful from Glos. The second innings dismissals of Harris (caught after slogging a short ball up in the air) and Bracey (caught after slog sweeping Leach straight after tea) really stuck in the mind.
I know Glos have a lot of injuries, and clearly the set-back mid match to Van Burren was another disaster, but I do worry that the three loan signings have undermined their strength, namely fighting tooth and nail to hang on and seize opportunities when they are presented. Would Glos have lost a game by that margin and scored only 1 point if they had picked the likes of Lace (who I think was really unlucky to miss out, Shaw and Goodman? Certainly couldn't have been much worse. Only upside to the short term loans would be if we managed to secure one of them on a permanent contract. I've seen plenty of Chappell and Wheal in the past and they are Division One quality bowlers. Not seen Bethell before, but he looked a cut above the other batters on display. I would be amazed if Warwickshire let him go.
I haven't been to the County Ground for a few years and I was impressed with the feel of the place. There were a lot of people in the crowd who are younger than me (mid 30s). Not necessarily kids, but plenty of groups of people in their 20s. I also liked the museum (that I think is a new addition) and the fact that stands F and G have become the Mark Alleyne and Jack Russell stands. My favourite was a large piece of wall art with the crest of every club in Bristol and Gloucestershire on it. The message in the middle was thank you to all affiliated clubs for their support. Some of these clubs are tiny villages in the heart of Gloucestershire. Minor things but I think Glos have done a lot to ensure they try and forge links in the community and stuff like this, plus the free after tea initiative helps.
For Somerset, I know Leach took the wickets, but the first spell Siddle bowled in the second innings was brilliant. I thought he was past it to be honest, but he really gave Bracey the run around. He probably should have had him LBW without scoring. The 5 man attack they had in this match is still the best in the country to my mind. Not sure the strength in depth is there, but if the batting can become more consistent, I wouldn't bet against them having a very good second half of the season.
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Post by warehamgas on May 16, 2022 17:43:13 GMT
I was surprised we won so easily considering the way Gloucestershire played last season against us. Leach did bowl very well and his control of length and his accuracy made the batsmen frustrated so that they made poor shots under pressure. But if course there wasn’t much pressure because all they needed to do was occupy the crease and they didn’t do that. When Somerset signed Siddle I had much the same reaction as you did jack, that he was past his best. Tbf to him though he’s bowled very well all season. I’ve seen him bowl in a couple of matches both defeats. At Hampshire he bowled tidily without getting the results the Hampshire bowlers did, but against Essex he was excellent. Somerset use him the same in most matches. He bowls spells of 6 overs max and sometimes less but at 37 they are using him well. He missed our innings win against Warwickshire and has had a couple of weeks off so he would have been fresh.
You may be right about Gloucestershire losing something in getting the loans in although Wheal is a decent player. Somerset do it a different way, using their academy and giving experience. It will probably stop us making a Championship challenge but we know it will happen. That Gloucestershire were out twice on the same pitch that England batted needs to be explained and they will need to bat afrvbetter to survive this season. And in this round of matches there were some very good batting displays in Div 1. The Somerset team v Hampshire at the start is very different to our team now, after the injured players have recovered. The last two matches when we’ve won by an innings each time is more or less our strongest team. Now that our batsmen are coming into form we are getting more consistency and we should be able to secure a mid table placing. Brooks instead of Siddle last time out was the only difference. It is a strong attack which may change and weaken if England call up Overton and Leach. We’ll see.
Istr you’ve in the past talked about Gloucestershire not using their tradition as a way of personalising the ground as Somerset have done for many years. It’s good to see they have done that now. I was following the streaming service and the ground didn’t look very full, perhaps it was in areas which weren’t shown.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 17, 2022 6:30:02 GMT
But Siddle is past his best. Isn't the fact he looks so dangerous on County wickets highlighting some of the things wrong with English cricket? Just look at the top 6 wicket takers in the County Championship Div 1 2021. Look at their ages !
Luke Fletcher (Notts) 34
C Rushworth (Durham) 35
Sam Cook (Essex) 25
T Murtagh (Middlesex) 41
D Paterson (Notts) 33
S Harmer (Essex) 33
Ignoring that Cook is 25, the others are all old mediocre bowlers who are stifling the opportunity for younger bowlers to learn their trade.
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Post by lostinspace on May 19, 2022 19:42:07 GMT
Somerset up against their nemisis in the shape of Hampshire,and struggle with the bat today it seems, not likely to be a full day Friday but any sort of atmospherics might come in handy
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Post by lostinspace on May 21, 2022 14:57:44 GMT
A very dismal effort from Somerset today , all out for 69, the first innings deficit, leaving Hampshire to get a single to win in their second innings ...
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Post by warehamgas on May 21, 2022 20:02:06 GMT
A very dismal effort from Somerset today , all out for 69, the first innings deficit, leaving Hampshire to get a single to win in their second innings ... Thank god I missed it. I was there for days 1 and 2 but came home last night hopeful that we’d take it into the later part. Trouble is a batting collapse is fairly predictable for Somerset atm and has been for some time. Today’s sounded pretty brutal though. The shame of the situation is we have a bowling attack as good as any and a batting line up which is Division 2 standard. |
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Post by irishrover on Jun 21, 2022 12:05:46 GMT
Hi All,
I'm aware that I've been completely AWOL this season as I took a break from the forum (meant to be a couple of weeks and turned into 6 months) but I will be posting again now and have a couple of thoughts on County Season so far;
-Pretty dissapointed with Glos. I thought they would be more competitive than this. There's been some good performances but they've not really strung them together very well and they always seem to come off second best in those key periods of matches that define results. Some might say that it's a big ask to deliver at the higher level but I actually think they should have higher expectations than that. There was reasonable backing for squad strengthening (albeit they've been unlucky with overseas injuries) and I feel they should be doing better and I still think they can do although staying up is now a big ask.
-Somerset are doing much better than they were but that batting is an achilles heel that just won't go away. It's wasting many a good bowling performance. They should do enough to be able to drift into comfortable midtable in the end though. They have a match winning bowling lineup that should get them enough wins on the board.
-Haven't actually seen as much cricket as I would normally have done at this point. Bohannon continues to impress me when I go down to Lancs though - he should be in the England conversation at this point. Will be going to Lancs-Somerset at Southport; always an excellent place to watch cricket. Annual pilgramage to Scarborough at the end of July is also on the horizon and I might try and sneak in Cheltenham and Taunton in the next month if I can get down to Bristol at some point.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 21, 2022 19:40:14 GMT
Hi All,
I'm aware that I've been completely AWOL this season as I took a break from the forum (meant to be a couple of weeks and turned into 6 months) but I will be posting again now and have a couple of thoughts on County Season so far;
-Pretty dissapointed with Glos. I thought they would be more competitive than this. There's been some good performances but they've not really strung them together very well and they always seem to come off second best in those key periods of matches that define results. Some might say that it's a big ask to deliver at the higher level but I actually think they should have higher expectations than that. There was reasonable backing for squad strengthening (albeit they've been unlucky with overseas injuries) and I feel they should be doing better and I still think they can do although staying up is now a big ask.
-Somerset are doing much better than they were but that batting is an achilles heel that just won't go away. It's wasting many a good bowling performance. They should do enough to be able to drift into comfortable midtable in the end though. They have a match winning bowling lineup that should get them enough wins on the board.
-Haven't actually seen as much cricket as I would normally have done at this point. Bohannon continues to impress me when I go down to Lancs though - he should be in the England conversation at this point. Will be going to Lancs-Somerset at Southport; always an excellent place to watch cricket. Annual pilgramage to Scarborough at the end of July is also on the horizon and I might try and sneak in Cheltenham and Taunton in the next month if I can get down to Bristol at some point.
Good to see you back irish. Hope all is well with you. Cant disagree with much you’ve said. I actually thought Gloucestershire may be the long shots for this year but, as you say, they have been disappointing. I thought Shah would prove a good signing but it was not to be. When things start to go bad for them they seem unable to turn it round. Somerset's batting again has let them down although we’ve had some very good second innings performances but by then we’re fighting to save the game, not win it. The two Surrey County Championship matches we had lost on the first day only to nearly be in with a chance to win them on the 3rd or 4th day. Not that we did. Our bowlers have been excellent but can’t be expected to continually get us out of a hole. But we do have the players and character to turn matches around and recover from a bad session. Our spirit seems pretty good and under Abell’s captaincy are still one of the noisiest teams on the county circuit. Interestingly, to me at least, our batting problems have been fairly long-standing and the powers that be have failed to do anything about them until this season. Renshaw has done well at the top of the order and it was shame for us that he was recalled by Australia for the recent tour. He will be back for the later CC matches I think. And having read today that we have signed Tom Kohler-Canmore from Yorkshire for next season is a sign that something is being done about it. It’s amazing to think he’s the first pure batsman we have signed from another English County since Nick Compton in the 2000s. (We’ve signed a few bowlers and all rounders but no specialist batsmen since. Chris Rogers who we signed in 2016 was signed on overseas terms not county terms from Middlesex) I hope it’s not a sign that we’ve lost patience with our policy of promoting from within but just an expectation that we need to deliver on promise and potential. Lancashire are in with a chance of winning competitions. They look strong in all forms and Surrey are definitely the team to beat though I will stick with Hampshire. |
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 4, 2022 16:40:01 GMT
as the county season resumes after over a month of virtual rain free time, we are now expecting some rather inclement weather, just about right!!! ,, got to be so frustrating for those not involved in the one hit caravan of cash
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 5, 2022 11:52:02 GMT
A Great Start in the Big Derby Match Today for Gloucestershire on Day 1 of 4.
Gloucestershire 115-0 (33 overs) Charlesworth 56no & Harris 47no
Lunch (12.45pm)
Somerset won the toss and decided to field.
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Post by jackthegas on Sept 5, 2022 13:26:00 GMT
Good to see Gloucestershire threatening to make game of this one. They certainly need to do something to lift the spirits. This season has been an unmitigated disaster and it feels like the slow rebuild carried out under Dawson and Harvey has been completely undone in two thirds of a season. They had the squad to compete in the top Division. The results over the last couple of covid affected years demonstrate this. We've lost our two biggest assets from white and red ball squads in my opinion. Howell is our point of difference bowler and compensates for our lack of an out and out quick and mystery spinner. Higgins opens the bowling and is a capable top order bat. Two players in one basically. Why have we let him go before the end of the season? Ed Barnard is leaving Worcester for Warwickshire and he's still playing for Worcester today. Added to the fact that we lost out on Chapel to Derby and I am left wondering whether the camp is entirely happy. Injuries to their overseas players and Dent haven't helped, but Snell and Benkenstein need to steady the ship pretty quickly. warehamgas - any views on Marchant de Lange joining Glos next year? On paper, gives the side something that they are lacking (pace) but I don't think I've seen him have a good game for Somerset, and it seems the type of signing that never seems to prosper at Bristol. I don't think our pitches lend themselves to erratic pacemen and we've not had a lot of luck with 30 something signings in the past. |
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 5, 2022 21:27:56 GMT
Well that didn’t go so well today, from a SCCC pov. I understand why we won the toss and put Gloucestershire in but it’s proved not to be the best decision, and one likely to cost us. But it’s a 4-day game and we came back well towards the end today so a good day tomorrow and we can still make a decent game out if this. We bowled well, without much luck but Gloucestershire had a couple of batsmen who batted well and it was enough to get to 300+. Harris batted very well and Charlesworth and Price did well and will learn from watching Harris. But another middle order collapse allowed us back into the match. But overall day 1 to Gloucestershire.
Jack, Marchant de Lange is a player past his best imo. It’s the Emporers New Clothes syndrome, everyone seems to say he’s very good yet I’ve watched him on a number of occasions predominantly in red ball cricket and I just can’t see him as a good player who will get you many wickets. I have to wonder what the fuss is all about. For Somerset we saw a few performances last season, mainly in the T20, but absolutely nothing this season. I feel we took the decision early this season to release him. He has never really threatened the opposition in the County Championship, even at Taunton which in that time has been friendly towards pace bowlers. Jack Brooks, much older, has had his contract extended because he has had a good season when in reality I think MdeL was meant to replace him last season! Jack B has been very good. For balance MdeL may do well for you in the T20 because he’ll get you some late order runs because he can score very quickly. He’s playing all forms I think for you but red ball will be a step too far I think, certainly on the balance of the last two seasons for us. He will give you pace but not sure he has the control needed. I suspect he’ll be good for team moral in the dressing room, he is popular in Taunton.
Good luck to him, but tbh he will not help us win any championship matches in Division 1 though if we go down he may do better in Division 2!
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 6, 2022 20:55:34 GMT
Latest from Taunton at the close of play day 2.
Gloucestershire 343 all out (102.1 overs), Harris 159, Charlesworth 56, O Price 52, Gregory 4-62.
Somerset 209-8 (74 overs) Imam 90, Bartlett 33, Rew 35no, T Price 4-49, Singh-Dale 2-50.
Somerset trail Gloucestershire by 134 runs with 2 wickets remaining
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