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Post by basel on Aug 19, 2014 19:17:22 GMT
Why not Swiss,give it ago. Nick has just announced to the world they want investment from serious people with the right attitude. I'm interested to know some details of just what this 'right attitude' means. What qualifies and what does not? That's what I meant with the other post Bas. I think it's reached the point where they would sell to anyone who would get them out of it and dress it up with all the platitudes they could muster "Mr Putin has always liked Pirates" etc etc. But the stumbling block is that Nick thinks that because the ground on which the stadium stands is worth X million as a development site, and because this about coincides with the X amount the directors have put in over the years, then the qualification for having the right attitude is the willingness to give them this X amount. But in the real world what is an investor buying ? A legal battle with Sainsburys ? A legal battle with UWE ? A legal battle with Wycombe Wanderers ? A funding gap on the stadium ? A funding gap on the working capital to get the stadium functioning ? A funding gap on getting the football club restructured and working properly ? All this talk of applications and vetting and bona fide makes me think Nick is completely out of touch. Surely what is needed is a properly produced prospectus setting out exactly what is for sale and what a bright future there could be at the UWE and then for a properly qualified sports business broker to be engaged to sell the concept to prospective investors. Right,caught up with posts Swiss. Hmm,here we are,clinging to the edge of a cliff,facing inwards. Stuck. If we fall to our doom we at least get a fleeting glimpse of a wonderful panoramic view of what might of been. The Rovers way. Where's that cavalry! Apoligies if that's too much dramatic twaddle folks.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 19, 2014 19:42:46 GMT
Interesting how our Board are at fault again for turning down an Investor who clearly had many irons in the fire.There have been many examples recently where Investors have not been the "saviour" that fans thought they would be, Reading and Salisbury (at different ends of the spectrum I know) are just two that spring to mind. I for one actually am grateful that our Board are fans like us, I want my club to keep it's identity even if the rebuilding of the Club financial structure takes a bit longer. Given there are 92 clubs in the FL why do fans have to always refer to the failures what about the successes like Hull, Swansea & Burnley all clubs who have clearly succeeded with the correct investors. In the meantime we have to accept Conference just in case the BoD choose the wrong investors, if we picked another Tan could they really have done any worse than taken us out of the FL?
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Post by manchestergas on Aug 19, 2014 19:42:58 GMT
Not a fan of the board, but not sure what else he could say. I thought it wasn't a bad interview. He obviously hates being interviewed, looks totally wiped out, but he cares. However he may care, the question whether he can run a football club better than he has to date.
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Post by tbonegas on Aug 19, 2014 19:49:27 GMT
Not a fan of the board, but not sure what else he could say. I thought it wasn't a bad interview. He obviously hates being interviewed, looks totally wiped out, but he cares. However he may care, the question whether he can run a football club better than he has to date. Do not stick up for any board member on this forum.This is the ANTI BOARD FORUM.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 19:54:49 GMT
Not a fan of the board, but not sure what else he could say. I thought it wasn't a bad interview. He obviously hates being interviewed, looks totally wiped out, but he cares. However he may care, the question whether he can run a football club better than he has to date. Do not stick up for any board member on this forum.This is the ANTI BOARD FORUM. Is it? never knew that, I had better hand my notice in.
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 19, 2014 20:10:54 GMT
Not a fan of the board, but not sure what else he could say. I thought it wasn't a bad interview. He obviously hates being interviewed, looks totally wiped out, but he cares. However he may care, the question whether he can run a football club better than he has to date. Do not stick up for any board member on this forum.This is the ANTI BOARD FORUM. I must have missed all those posts saying people felt for NH watching the video
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Post by manchestergas on Aug 19, 2014 20:13:39 GMT
Oxon you will have to tell someone where the 'hidden agenda' is before you leave otherwise no one will find it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:23:00 GMT
That's what I meant with the other post Bas. I think it's reached the point where they would sell to anyone who would get them out of it and dress it up with all the platitudes they could muster "Mr Putin has always liked Pirates" etc etc. But the stumbling block is that Nick thinks that because the ground on which the stadium stands is worth X million as a development site, and because this about coincides with the X amount the directors have put in over the years, then the qualification for having the right attitude is the willingness to give them this X amount. But in the real world what is an investor buying ? A legal battle with Sainsburys ? A legal battle with UWE ? A legal battle with Wycombe Wanderers ? A funding gap on the stadium ? A funding gap on the working capital to get the stadium functioning ? A funding gap on getting the football club restructured and working properly ? All this talk of applications and vetting and bona fide makes me think Nick is completely out of touch. Surely what is needed is a properly produced prospectus setting out exactly what is for sale and what a bright future there could be at the UWE and then for a properly qualified sports business broker to be engaged to sell the concept to prospective investors. Right,caught up with posts Swiss. Hmm,here we are,clinging to the edge of a cliff,facing inwards. Stuck. If we fall to our doom we at least get a fleeting glimpse of a wonderful panoramic view of what might of been. The Rovers way. Where's that cavalry! Apoligies if that's too much dramatic twaddle folks.
I've just watched the second episode of "Great Poets In Their Own Words" ... that's right up there mate; something of the Seamus Heaney.
Anyway at least a first verse of a song.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:40:08 GMT
Oxon you will have to tell someone where the 'hidden agenda' is before you leave otherwise no one will find it. Well somebody had better tell me and the rest of the admin what this hidden agenda is first. The forum is moderated by a few fellow Rovers fans. As far as I am aware there is NO hidden agenda. I have never met some of the other admins, so hard to nail that one. Yes I will admit that I (notice that I not we) fully supported Agenda for Change, but I have also fully supported the SC, and I am sure David will confirm that I had a few telephone calls with him. I have openly spoken with a few of the other directors. The only agenda I have is that I want the club to get back in the league! yes UWE would be nice but it is not the priority yet. I do not agree with how the club is being run but I also do not feel that the directors are bad people. In a simplistic life I would say that they have not got the little things that would have made the harder ones simple or to use an old army term KISS! Keep it simple stupid. If you know of a hidden agenda please tell me (on here in the open would be better, as I would like all to see it).
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Post by basel on Aug 19, 2014 20:41:40 GMT
Right,caught up with posts Swiss. Hmm,here we are,clinging to the edge of a cliff,facing inwards. Stuck. If we fall to our doom we at least get a fleeting glimpse of a wonderful panoramic view of what might of been. The Rovers way. Where's that cavalry! Apoligies if that's too much dramatic twaddle folks.
I've just watched the second episode of "Great Poets In Their Own Words" ... that's right up there mate; something of the Seamus Heaney.
Anyway at least a first verse of a song.
Haha!
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Post by Bath Gas on Aug 19, 2014 21:22:25 GMT
Very disappointing interview. As Nick's just returned from a few weeks in Italy, I was hope that he'd give us a quick flash of his white bits!
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 19, 2014 21:33:00 GMT
Very disappointing interview. As Nick's just returned from a few weeks in Italy, I was hope that he'd give us a quick flash of his white bits! I heard it's an all over tan.
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Post by bristolbluegas on Aug 19, 2014 22:05:23 GMT
Agree with a previous poster, some of these posts are embarrassing. People may not agree with how our club is run but this man has put a lot of his own money and time into the football club with no recompense and very little thanks. I have read some pretty vile comments on here towards NH, I'm not a massive fan of his or the BoD but tonight I'm pretty ashamed to call myself a Rovers fan. A new low in my book.
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Post by Bridgeman on Aug 19, 2014 23:07:19 GMT
Oxon you will have to tell someone where the 'hidden agenda' is before you leave otherwise no one will find it. Well somebody had better tell me and the rest of the admin what this hidden agenda is first. The forum is moderated by a few fellow Rovers fans. As far as I am aware there is NO hidden agenda. I have never met some of the other admins, so hard to nail that one. Yes I will admit that I (notice that I not we) fully supported Agenda for Change, but I have also fully supported the SC, and I am sure David will confirm that I had a few telephone calls with him. I have openly spoken with a few of the other directors. The only agenda I have is that I want the club to get back in the league! yes UWE would be nice but it is not the priority yet. I do not agree with how the club is being run but I also do not feel that the directors are bad people. In a simplistic life I would say that they have not not the little things that would have made the harder ones simple or to use an old army term KISS! Keep it simple stupid. If you know of a hidden agenda please tell me (on here in the open would be better, as I would like all to see it). There are some whose agenda is to suggest there is a hidden agenda to try and undermine what has become an excellent, well moderated broad based forum with a very diverse opinion amongst its membership. I've been a more outspoken critic of the board since our relegation, however as I said to Nick Higgs and Brian Seymour-Smith at different times I am NOT anti-board, I am ANTI FAILURE. Unfortunately it's those at board level who have overseen the recent failure by poor recruitment (players and managers), poor management (financial and governance) and very poor communication (fans and media). Things have to change, drastically. I will continue to be critical of the board if things don't change but I will also be supportive of them if they do. The board like myself are Gasheads, I want them to be successful, I also assume they want to be successful. There is no hidden agenda, it's out in the open for all to see, we want success....KISS ! UTG !!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 23:41:58 GMT
Not a fan of the board, but not sure what else he could say. I thought it wasn't a bad interview. He obviously hates being interviewed, looks totally wiped out, but he cares. However he may care, the question whether he can run a football club better than he has to date. Do not stick up for any board member on this forum.This is the ANTI BOARD FORUM. So do you think we've improved since Higgs took over then boner?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 23:43:08 GMT
Very disappointing interview. As Nick's just returned from a few weeks in Italy, I was hope that he'd give us a quick flash of his white bits! Would be better then the brown bits I suppose!
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Post by tbonegas on Aug 20, 2014 0:01:09 GMT
Do not stick up for any board member on this forum.This is the ANTI BOARD FORUM. So do you think we've improved since Higgs took over then boner? No. But this is still an anti board forum.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 20, 2014 3:00:17 GMT
Yet he openly lied at the Q&A saying no one was interested. He only opened up because it became common knowledge. Padstows comment about money laundering just silly. Darryl Eales is not just about him but who else he fronts. It wS Oxford UNITED he invested in by the way ANC made funds svailable for players right away.
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Post by PeterHooper57 on Aug 20, 2014 4:58:23 GMT
To be honest That made me feel sorry for him. Tired, drawn, edgy and lacking in confidence.
And he has stuffed significant amounts of his family fortune in to the club.
I still don't rate him at all, but on a human level, I felt sorry for him. Agreed, he looked tired, but there is no doubting he is a Gashead, and TBA I am pleased he is not just going to let anybody join the board. Also, very pleased he has authorised three more signings. UTG
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Post by therealist on Aug 20, 2014 5:34:51 GMT
Points West just had NH on,he hopes to find the new investment and he is speaking to some but they have to have the right attitude and not just be 'one week wonders'. Bas, I just posted and then read your quote from Points West. Typical Rovers bad luck that Nick can't find anyone with the right credentials to take over the club but you just can't get the investors these days can you New Oxford chairman Darryl Eales said he thinks of himself as a "Custodian of Oxford United" and has appointed former West Bromwich Albion goalkeeper and director Mark Ashton is the club’s new chief executive. He said: “A lot of people talk about ownership of a football club. I prefer to think of my involvement as that of a custodian of Oxford United with long-term intentions and ambitions which I share with the fans.” oxfordshireguardian.co.uk/shock-overhaul-at-oxford-united/
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