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Post by lympstonegas on Aug 19, 2014 19:27:33 GMT
I'm gutted at the start. But, 3 games in and the OP wishes we would go bust. Oh, dear. I agree with you, it's unbelievable really isn't it ?! Absolutely ... Laughable how the keyboard boardhaters state how much they care for the club yet come up with solutions like this.
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dagnogo
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Post by dagnogo on Aug 22, 2014 16:29:22 GMT
We have a Conference team, getting beat by bricklayers, haemorraging money, run by scum. I feel for Hereford, of course, but we could end up going their way anyway. They may have run the club poorly and made decisions that have made things worse but they aren't scum. Like it or lump it without them we would be in administration or bust by now. They aren't putting spare change into the club, it's their fortune and life's work and savings. I don't see you dipping your hand into your life savings to help out. We are all still sore from last year. If after 10 games we are still in the same predicament then we need to get someone in with a lot of experience who can sort it all out. Gary Johnson anyone? Your post is wrong on so many levels. I didn't call anyone scum and do you think the Hereford people just wanted their hands on Edgar St? A lot of well intentioned people buy football clubs and can't run them. It's not their life savings - they all have other successful businesses. Until one of them ends up like Mark Goldberg, we'll assume that they're not struggling for cash. The old "you're not putting your hand in your pocket" thing is just sad - must one be a millionaire before they're allowed to criticise? Better not criticise the Government then unless I decide to run for Downing Street. You or I don't know where we'd be without them - Higgs has mentioned investors - but we're £7m in the red and outside the Football League for the first time in all our lives, so it's not just people letting off steam from a few bad games.
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brizzle
Lindsay Parsons
No Buy . . . No Sell!
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Post by brizzle on Aug 22, 2014 16:48:53 GMT
EXACTLY. I cannot believe some of the nonsense on this forum. 3 games in to a season that was always going to be difficult, theres a reason teams take so long/haven't got back into the league. Theres still 43 games left; 3870 minutes of regular football left. Everyone needs to calm down a bit. I remember the same things being said 12 months ago.Quite how complete and total ineptitude on the biggest scale possible is no cause for alarm, I'm not sure. . . . and so do I Pessimist, by an elderly gentleman from the Home Counties if my memory serves. He reminded us at about this point in the season (last season of course) that we shouldn't be making any firm decisions on the team/manager et al, until 10 games had passed. As we all now know we were relegated, having never recovered from an indifferent start, middle and end to the season. Of course that's not to say that the same will happen this season. We live in hope . . . it's what we do, don't we?
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Post by Brockworth Gas on Aug 22, 2014 18:01:18 GMT
LP Gas - is that correct? Hereford have been demoted to the Southern League but are yet to be formally declared insolvent? That was for not paying football creditors etc within agreed timeframe. Isn't there a point deduction in the Comference for administration?
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james83
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Post by james83 on Aug 22, 2014 18:46:53 GMT
I think people should just stop going to games, let the club go into administration and form a pheonix club owned by the fans. Surely the fans ARE bristol rovers, so why not have ourselves running the club? People will say it cant be done, its not easy, blah blah, but if afc wimbledon did it, why cant we? With the right advice, expertise etc. There cant be anything special about them that the gas fan base doesnt have. Id put my own money into a club that actually gives a damn about its fans, and ok i dont have lots of money but im sure if we all chipped it we'd be able to get something going. It could be run totally democratically so we all can actually influence and decide how to club is run. Why not i say? Is brfc it's fantatstic group of fans, or is it just the toy of a few millionaire businessmen who wouldnt pi** on us plebs if we were on fire. Why should we pay to watch our club humiliated when we could be the club? I see your poiint but it's a bit like saying I wish I could just die and be reincarnated into a better person! Unfortunately we are who we are and what hurts us can only make us stronger!!!
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james83
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Post by james83 on Aug 22, 2014 18:47:05 GMT
I think people should just stop going to games, let the club go into administration and form a pheonix club owned by the fans. Surely the fans ARE bristol rovers, so why not have ourselves running the club? People will say it cant be done, its not easy, blah blah, but if afc wimbledon did it, why cant we? With the right advice, expertise etc. There cant be anything special about them that the gas fan base doesnt have. Id put my own money into a club that actually gives a damn about its fans, and ok i dont have lots of money but im sure if we all chipped it we'd be able to get something going. It could be run totally democratically so we all can actually influence and decide how to club is run. Why not i say? Is brfc it's fantatstic group of fans, or is it just the toy of a few millionaire businessmen who wouldnt pi** on us plebs if we were on fire. Why should we pay to watch our club humiliated when we could be the club? I see your poiint but it's a bit like saying I wish I could just die and be reincarnated into a better person! Unfortunately we are who we are and what hurts us can only make us stronger!!!
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c13
Rickie Lambert
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Post by c13 on Aug 22, 2014 22:44:58 GMT
When it comes down to it, people act differently with their own money. No way would I sink any money to football. You need big bucks in football now. Plus anything run for "the people" democratically ends up lacking vision and crippled with disagreements. My thoughts exactly. Things are NOT good AT ALL, and yes, I do think that our BoD is a sham in many aspects, but in no way we can let ourselves go bust. This is a classical snap decision and a process that, long-term, is not always as pretty as it looks like. Methinks you people have been watching too many "phoenix rising" soap operas, with all due respect. We have to keep trying, as a fanbase, to figure out what we can do to stop our club from going bust and at the same time to be ran like a Sunday League outfit. "Oh, easier said than done" well, who said it was going to be easy?
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Aug 24, 2014 16:30:30 GMT
Greater fan involvement doesnt need insolvency, just a more enlightened Board maximising on its biggest resource
It will never go insolvent and be a going concerned for fans to inherit anyway, Mem would be sold to pay all the 'internal creditors' as Higgs calls them
Also insolvency may impact most heavily on people who helped fund Mem purchase by buying preference shares, which come quite a way down list of creditors to be paid first, and Mem Exec box holders who handed over £100k each for 10 years use of box paid up front when club desperately needed cash and quickly
So a bad idea that wouldnt work, and isnt necessary if Board just realised instead of alienating fans, engagement and involvement would take pressure off them
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 16:46:59 GMT
Greater fan involvement doesnt need insolvency, just a more enlightened Board maximising on its biggest resource It will never go insolvent and be a going concerned for fans to inherit anyway, Mem would be sold to pay all the 'internal creditors' as Higgs calls them Also insolvency may impact most heavily on people who helped fund Mem purchase by buying preference shares, which come quite a way down list of creditors to be paid first, and Mem Exec box holders who handed over £100k each for 10 years use of box paid up front when club desperately needed cash and quickly So a bad idea that wouldnt work, and isnt necessary if Board just realised instead of alienating fans, engagement and involvement would take pressure off them Indeed. And pigs might fly.
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