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Post by baselswh on Sept 2, 2021 13:01:06 GMT
Still entitled to say he does'nt believe a word she says. As we all are. Offcom. That's the point. I thought that the case was against GMTV and although they agreed that Morgan had overstepped the mark the fact that 2 co presenters made an alternative case during his rant Offcom found that the debate was balanced or words to that affect. I don't know all the details,but it does show PM was allowed to say he did'nt believe MM.Fair enough imo.
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Post by chelt_gas on Sept 2, 2021 13:12:35 GMT
Your initial post. Labels tend to excite audience, particularly on a forum I merely described some Gas Chat forum members exactly as they are. No judgement made and I haven’t seen any noticeable excitement as a result. Your view on Fake Sheik? What was said on Twitter? Thank you. It’s all sticks and stones. Words are like paper swords, it’s the prejudice, intent and unfairness in life that’s more of an issue. Often words are the emissions of a deeper powerful prejudice and that’s where action needs to be proportionate.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 2, 2021 14:26:45 GMT
Very strange time Basel. I had an email frim the doctors practice and it was about abusive abd aggressive behaviour towards the GP’s. There is a lot of hatred, confusion and fear and that’s a bad mix. I think many really need to think before pressing post or making a very poorly thought out decusion I just say what I want. But you don’t post aggressively or in a racist manner
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Post by baselswh on Sept 2, 2021 16:24:04 GMT
But you don’t post aggressively or in a racist manner Oh I see KP. Apparently attacks on our Ambulance people have been common for sometime now. What a dangerous world.
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Post by JeffNZ on Sept 2, 2021 16:40:42 GMT
Just for the poster on the other forum trying to link this disgusting outburst to Gas Guzzler... I can assure you and state with complete confidence that ALL our moderators abhor any and all racism. We let a fair bit go here from a moderation perspective but racism is one of the things we jump on without hesitation. RACISM WILL NOT BE TOLERATED IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM Just a quick question then, just to help get it right and stay in the opposite cage from from the Millwall supporters. Blacking up, like a Canadian premier for a party, is not allowed then, I appreciate the black and white minstrel show ain’t coming back anytime soon. But if we are white, are we allowed to use black emoji? Is that allowed on this forum? I won’t actually demonstrate it here in case it’s a ban. PM me with the one you are referring to.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 2, 2021 16:56:34 GMT
But you don’t post aggressively or in a racist manner Oh I see KP. Apparently attacks on our Ambulance people have been common for sometime now.What a dangerous world. I can assure you that that statement is true. They are verbally abused on a regular basis and not just by drunks and druggies. Quite often by privileged middle class time wasters who feel they are entitled to call the emergency services for minor complaints. They are also physically assaulted at least 2/3 times a year to varying degrees from slaps to hospitalisation.. I know as my wife works frontline ambulance and has been attacked on a number of occasions whilst trying to help people. Often by those they are treating. At least aggressive posts don't hurt people other than their pride....people should be able to respond articulately enough. As long as they are not abusive or hate filled!
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Sept 2, 2021 18:16:47 GMT
Just a quick question then, just to help get it right and stay in the opposite cage from from the Millwall supporters. Blacking up, like a Canadian premier for a party, is not allowed then, I appreciate the black and white minstrel show ain’t coming back anytime soon. But if we are white, are we allowed to use black emoji? Is that allowed on this forum? I won’t actually demonstrate it here in case it’s a ban. PM me with the one you are referring to. well there is white Emoji, here’s Chalky saying hi: 👶🏻 looks lot like me so I’ll use that. And then there is black emoji, self styled Funkdogg saying what’s crackalackin 🧑🏿🦲 because just to confuse things our dude is coming outta bel air not Compton, so really every bit the fresh Prince. So if we are, white then, as pointing to chalky, though in fact why saying a white emoji when no one is really white, it’s pink through shades to brown - there we are, I ain’t black, so can I actually sign off using black emoji - as fake and at the ham as the black and white minstrel show? Does that seem right to you? There’s no way Alec Guinness or Ben Kingsley would get away with it today, so why should I? You must have a policy?
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Sept 2, 2021 18:41:44 GMT
PM me with the one you are referring to. well there is white Emoji, here’s Chalky saying hi: 👶🏻 looks lot like me so I’ll use that. And then there is black emoji, self styled Funkdogg saying what’s crackalackin 🧑🏿🦲 because just to confuse things our dude is coming outta bel air not Compton, so really every bit the fresh Prince. So if we are, white then, as pointing to chalky, though in fact why saying a white emoji when no one is really white, it’s pink through shades to brown - there we are, I ain’t black, so can I actually sign off using black emoji - as fake and at the ham as the black and white minstrel show? Does that seem right to you? There’s no way Alec Guinness or Ben Kingsley would get away with it today, so why should I? You must have a policy? No need to rush one out, I appreciate it ain’t so straightforward. It all comes down to getting “respect”, right? As in using emoji respectfully. For example, Kendall Jenner (I’ve been keeping up with the Kardasian’s) accused of cultural appropriation for using emoji with darker skin colour than her own. www.buzzfeed.com/ikrd/people-are-calling-out-kendall-jenner-for-the-emoji-she?utm_term=.tkgElDvmE#.jo8DKPV8D So you keep to emoji skin colour that best matches your own, easy, it’s that simple? No. Woke White people are using black emoji because they are uncomfortable of the white emoji association with White Privilege. They are not using black emoji as overtly racist as the black and white minstrel show, but as their way of showing solidarity. And what happens, it leaves people confused and uncomfortable. For example, is your first feeling “Liberty and justice for all! 👊🏾” coming across the same as “Liberty and justice for all! 👊🏻” So what exactly are you saying the forum policy is to avoid accusations of cultural appropriation and racism? Hope this helps 🙂
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 2, 2021 18:57:37 GMT
But you don’t post aggressively or in a racist manner Oh I see KP. Apparently attacks on our Ambulance people have been common for sometime now. What a dangerous world. Yes, This is precisely what I meant. Many angry people
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Sept 2, 2021 19:11:53 GMT
Oh I see KP. Apparently attacks on our Ambulance people have been common for sometime now. What a dangerous world. Yes, This is precisely what I meant. Many angry people And confused and uncomfortable people? did it not seem just so much simpler once upon a time.
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Post by towngas on Sept 3, 2021 9:10:37 GMT
I merely described some Gas Chat forum members exactly as they are. No judgement made and I haven’t seen any noticeable excitement as a result. Your view on Fake Sheik? What was said on Twitter? Thank you. It’s all sticks and stones. Words are like paper swords, it’s the prejudice, intent and unfairness in life that’s more of an issue. Often words are the emissions of a deeper powerful prejudice and that’s where action needs to be proportionate. Oh I see. So in fact you are saying I didn’t actually say anything wrong. Which begs the question why you answered my original post. what are your views on the term Fake Sheik -is it merely a gentle p1ss take (how I view it) or is it racist. Do you know what was written on Twitter?
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Sept 3, 2021 10:03:28 GMT
Very strange time Basel. I had an email frim the doctors practice and it was about abusive abd aggressive behaviour towards the GP’s. There is a lot of hatred, confusion and fear and that’s a bad mix. I think many really need to think before pressing post or making a very poorly thought out decusion I just say what I want. Apparently, the pressure of covid (and Brexit too if the truth be known) has brought on a medical condition known as brain fog, where cognitive abilities are dampened to the extent that people react off the cuff, so to speak.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 3, 2021 10:53:10 GMT
Apparently, the pressure of covid (and Brexit too if the truth be known) has brought on a medical condition known as brain fog, where cognitive abilities are dampened to the extent that people react off the cuff, so to speak. They are all too quick to stick labels on everyone now, its daft. I think we have all had to learn different ways to cope, some haven’t done so well. It’s the lonely ones I think would have been hit hardest. As for brain fog, I already have that, each day and waking moment. Beer helps
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Sept 3, 2021 11:18:30 GMT
Apparently, the pressure of covid (and Brexit too if the truth be known) has brought on a medical condition known as brain fog, where cognitive abilities are dampened to the extent that people react off the cuff, so to speak. They are all too quick to stick labels on everyone now, its daft. I think we have all had to learn different ways to cope, some haven’t done so well. It’s the lonely ones I think would have been hit hardest. As for brain fog, I already have that, each day and waking moment. Beer helps I think we have a similar struggle you and I with brain fog coming from different stress points.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2021 11:29:49 GMT
It’s all sticks and stones. Words are like paper swords, it’s the prejudice, intent and unfairness in life that’s more of an issue. Often words are the emissions of a deeper powerful prejudice and that’s where action needs to be proportionate. Oh I see. So in fact you are saying I didn’t actually say anything wrong. Which begs the question why you answered my original post. what are your views on the term Fake Sheik -is it merely a gentle p1ss take (how I view it) or is it racist. Do you know what was written on Twitter? I believe he was called "A Sand Rat C**t"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2021 12:08:31 GMT
Pop, that will get dismissed by our resident Stormtroopers as "just a bit of banter".
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Post by towngas on Sept 3, 2021 18:00:25 GMT
Oh I see. So in fact you are saying I didn’t actually say anything wrong. Which begs the question why you answered my original post. what are your views on the term Fake Sheik -is it merely a gentle p1ss take (how I view it) or is it racist. Do you know what was written on Twitter? I believe he was called "A Sand Rat C**t" I would say that was racist.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2021 20:27:17 GMT
I believe he was called "A Sand Rat C**t" I would say that was racist. You'd be right.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 4, 2021 8:59:02 GMT
You should hear the names I have been called but you get on with it and don’t make a drama out of it, at least that’s how I have dealt with it and one event in particular, I could have gone legal and won but I kept quiet and let it go, knowing the truth always comes out. Fact is there will always be those who are just nasty, whether it be in silence or out loud. if I had 10p for each time I was called a polish xxxx or a Catholic xxxx then I’d have a fair few quid. I agree it should not happen but it will. Unless something is done about it then it will continue.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 4, 2021 10:15:38 GMT
I know many (including me) that have been abused.
Just to be clear, I'm not condoning any form of abuse, unless it's directed to c*ty82, but unfortunately the sort of abuse I incur isn't deemed racial or homophobic or transphobic so therefore isn't worth a w@nk...
Sticks and stones, eh?
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