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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 22, 2021 14:42:08 GMT
JAB comments today in BEP regarding Ehmer. Brutal!:
"Don’t forget I’ve known Max from when I was at QPR. He was training with us when he was 20 and the observations of him then haven’t changed much to the observations of the player I’ve found now.
"That is worrying in that period of time, seven, eight or nine years, if you’re still making the same mistakes.
"I think you can only help yourself. He can only help himself first and foremost before you can help any of your teammates." "Captain when we came in, and I just don’t understand that," B***** said.
"How can that be the leader, the person you set out as the head of your organisation, as the head of your troops?
"He’s got a lot of work to do, the boy. We’ve got to build him back up and it’s not straightforward, and, as I say, I can only help people who want to help themselves.
"We’ve got no time for passengers, and as cruel as that may seem, unfortunately this is not a charity. This is an elite performing environment that is not elite performing at this moment in time and it’s my job to get it there, because I’m a custodian of the building."
Maybe sometimes things need to be said. I've never been an advocate of dirty washing in public, it kinda backfired with Mildenhall/DC, but JAB is definitely saying what I think I'm seeing....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 15:02:20 GMT
And today's scapegoat is...
We should all guess who is going to get the blame if we lose tomorrow, which I don't think we will by the way, but if we do, who will Mr Punchy blame this time?
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Post by kentgas on Mar 22, 2021 15:10:56 GMT
Absolutely right about Ehmer.
Massively disappointing signing - certainly not the player I was expecting.
Captaincy should have been taken away a long time ago.
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Post by alanrg on Mar 22, 2021 15:25:50 GMT
I agree about the manager coming out about certain players they need a good kick up the backside the softly softly approach has not worked so try something different
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 22, 2021 16:12:41 GMT
I agree about the manager coming out about certain players they need a good kick up the backside the softly softly approach has not worked so try something different All people react to different things, kick the wrong person or slag them off publicly you will get worse from them. Some need an arm round the shoulder to get best from them. Some you just leave alone to get best from them. And all this has to be kept far away from public. Do it for public consumption you are just doing it to distract from your own failings. We lost last Saturday due to the managers mistakes.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 22, 2021 16:15:24 GMT
Absolutely right about Ehmer. Massively disappointing signing - certainly not the player I was expecting. Captaincy should have been taken away a long time ago. it’s been disappointing here, but seemed to be going okay for him at Gillingham. If it was going okay at Gillingham then Joey’s cocky and insulting comments make no sense at all. the way Joey B***** is man managing in public here is 100% not leadership.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 16:21:01 GMT
This kills the argument that Joey is going give them a kick up the arse and they are all going to give 150%. He has found the squad wanting just like Tisdale before who also spoke out when he knew he was getting sacked in the morning.
I stand by my opinion that Widdrington should have been ordered to manage the team until the end of the season after all it's his squad and he told us that this squad was 100% capable.
It's a mess and the inexperience above the manager role is glaringly obvious.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 22, 2021 16:26:59 GMT
This kills the argument that Joey is going give them a kick up the arse and they are all going to give 150%. He has found the squad wanting just like Tisdale before who also spoke out when he knew he was getting sacked in the morning. I stand by my opinion that Widdrington should have been ordered to manage the team until the end of the season after all it's his squad and he told us that this squad was 100% capable. It's a mess and the inexperience above the manager role is glaringly obvious. if all this is true, then it’s clear sign Joey isn’t now planning to be here long term. You upset one person by ridiculing them in media, it’s definitely not one upset person but all their mates in changing room and rest of club.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 16:39:30 GMT
JAB comments today in BEP regarding Ehmer. Brutal!: "Don’t forget I’ve known Max from when I was at QPR. He was training with us when he was 20 and the observations of him then haven’t changed much to the observations of the player I’ve found now. "That is worrying in that period of time, seven, eight or nine years, if you’re still making the same mistakes. "I think you can only help yourself. He can only help himself first and foremost before you can help any of your teammates." "Captain when we came in, and I just don’t understand that," B***** said. "How can that be the leader, the person you set out as the head of your organisation, as the head of your troops? "He’s got a lot of work to do, the boy. We’ve got to build him back up and it’s not straightforward, and, as I say, I can only help people who want to help themselves. "We’ve got no time for passengers, and as cruel as that may seem, unfortunately this is not a charity. This is an elite performing environment that is not elite performing at this moment in time and it’s my job to get it there, because I’m a custodian of the building." Maybe sometimes things need to be said. I've never been an advocate of dirty washing in public, it kinda backfired with Mildenhall/DC, but JAB is definitely saying what I think I'm seeing.... Do people actually think these public comments about a player are ok?
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Post by Peter Parker on Mar 22, 2021 16:42:25 GMT
This kills the argument that Joey is going give them a kick up the arse and they are all going to give 150%. He has found the squad wanting just like Tisdale before who also spoke out when he knew he was getting sacked in the morning. I stand by my opinion that Widdrington should have been ordered to manage the team until the end of the season after all it's his squad and he told us that this squad was 100% capable. It's a mess and the inexperience above the manager role is glaringly obvious. if all this is true, then it’s clear sign Joey isn’t now planning to be here long term. You upset one person by ridiculing them in media, it’s definitely not one upset person but all their mates in changing room and rest of club. Its one thing to call out the squad as a group and be robust about them in public, but when you start calling out individuals The players (like any employee) have to trust the manager. If there are issues, you dont expect to be bad mouthed publicly, because if it happens to one, it could happen to any of them. Why would you work for someone like that. If you are poor, you are dropped and left out and eventually sold/released orwork your way back. That is all that needs to happen. Ehmer is done at Rovers (maybe rightly so) but why should Ehmer give a f about about B***** or Rovers under him now when he says its his (JBs that is) job to build him back up, knowing he could be chucked under the bus at the next opportunity
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 22, 2021 16:51:41 GMT
if all this is true, then it’s clear sign Joey isn’t now planning to be here long term. You upset one person by ridiculing them in media, it’s definitely not one upset person but all their mates in changing room and rest of club. Its one thing to call out the squad as a group and be robust about them in public, but when you start calling out individuals The players (like any employee) have to trust the manager. If there are issues, you dont expect to be bad mouthed publicly, because if it happens to one, it could happen to any of them. Why would you work for someone like that. If you are poor, you are dropped and left out and eventually sold/released orwork your way back. That is all that needs to happen. Ehmer is done at Rovers (maybe rightly so) but why should Ehmer give a f about about B***** or Rovers under him now when he says its his (JBs that is) job to build him back up, knowing he could be chucked under the bus at the next opportunity it can’t be all sweetness and light in dressing rooms if you want to be winners. But what is said has to be said with respect and kept in house. even if this had wisely been kept in house, a manager can only say these things knowing it’s not just going to upset one player, also his mates, and destabilise the whole building. Joey doesn’t understand the importance of being respectful, does he?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 16:52:12 GMT
I wonder what Ehmers views of B***** was when he was player at QPR? 😂 when he was trying to fight half the Man City squad?
Seriously, we’re supposed to put all B*****’s past issues behind us as part of this ridiculous propaganda war and B*****’s talking about what Ehmer was like when he was 20?
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 22, 2021 17:03:03 GMT
I wonder what Ehmers views of B***** was when he was player at QPR? 😂 when he was trying to fight half the Man City squad? Seriously, we’re supposed to put all B*****’s past issues behind us as part of this ridiculous propaganda war and B*****’s talking about what Ehmer was like when he was 20? to be fair 20yr old Ehmer probably thought B***** has a short fuse and any sending off due to red mist is going to drop the team in it.
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Post by basel on Mar 22, 2021 17:03:35 GMT
This squad needs the law laying down.We will need to see a few leave in the Summer.JB has said players must get on board or leave.
I want to see good players and a good team for my entrance fee.Sick of the bloody rubbish since GC left.
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Post by swissgas on Mar 22, 2021 17:05:02 GMT
A bad workman always blames his tools.
And at Rovers we appear to have plenty of those.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 22, 2021 17:07:19 GMT
I wonder what Ehmers views of B***** was when he was player at QPR? 😂 when he was trying to fight half the Man City squad? Seriously, we’re supposed to put all B*****’s past issues behind us as part of this ridiculous propaganda war and B*****’s talking about what Ehmer was like when he was 20? i don’t see it as “ridiculous propaganda war” Daisy, I see it as manager actively encouraging fan base to turn on players. More sinister than ridiculous. we lost last Saturday because manager left us outnumbered in midfield, not because Ehmer was on the pitch for 45.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 22, 2021 17:10:49 GMT
This squad needs the law laying down.We will need to see a few leave in the Summer.JB has said players must get on board or leave. I want to see good players and a good team for my entrance fee.Sick of the bloody rubbish since GC left. is that why this thread is called skip, it’s time to start tossing players in the skip? so you completely support this style of managing and going about it? fair enough. 😃 let’s see your retained list then.
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Post by Peter Parker on Mar 22, 2021 17:17:06 GMT
This squad needs the law laying down.We will need to see a few leave in the Summer.JB has said players must get on board or leave. I want to see good players and a good team for my entrance fee.Sick of the bloody rubbish since GC left. B***** said the squad need to get on board and that is fine. He gave them the weekend to assess themselves Thats all that needs to happen. I can only assume Max Ehmer came in today and called B***** a **** or something, because he didnt need to call him out individually less than 48 hours after giving the squad an ultimatum
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 17:23:01 GMT
Did B***** really say “we’ve got to build him back up”? Interesting
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 17:26:09 GMT
Did B***** really say “we’ve got to build him back up”? Interesting Bugger, got Chumbawamba stuck in my head now even though the words are different.
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