trunky
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Post by trunky on Aug 13, 2014 14:56:17 GMT
I am getting more and more agitated by the developments within our club, season after season we make the same mistakes and never seem to learn from them,unless we go up this year (which seems a remote possibility) I think the fans will start to drift away our rivals south of the river will pick up all the floating fans and any new fans moving into the area and within a couple of years there is a real possibility we could go to the wall. I lay the blame squarely on the shoulders of our board and I honestly don't think they have a clue what is happening.( I don't have a solution I am just venting my spleen.)
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mrgas
Jamie Shore
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Post by mrgas on Aug 13, 2014 15:01:35 GMT
Well, they're either wholly incompetent or doing it on purpose! I will stoutly defend the board and say it is the former.
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 13, 2014 16:14:06 GMT
Well, they're either wholly incompetent or doing it on purpose! I will stoutly defend the board and say it is the former. They just can't see that they are wrong, or accept any constructive criticism, borne out by the "we see no need for any external review, or external input to our review" line. A simple bit of scenario planning half way or even three quarters of the way through the season would have shown up the potential financial situation we now find ourselves in, and that a few grand spent on a couple of players would have prevented it! Watola is a clown - we were only in the relegation zone for 70 minutes!
The Board individually are successful business men (quite how is beyond me) but when put together for BRFC are clearly incompetent.
The Board should have instructed Watola to do the scenario/risk planning when he didn't see the need for himself and, having not done it, he should now be removed and someone competent brought in.
The Board have to get some outside advice on how to get out of the mess we are in because clearly they do not know and rearranging a few roles within the boardroom from one incompetent to anther isn't going to get us anywhere. I sadly agree with the op - we are drifting away into the lower reaches of non league if radical* changes are not forthcoming.
*and by radical I don't mean putting Boycie in charge of novelty mugs.
Rod
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Post by Tote End Charlie on Aug 13, 2014 16:15:59 GMT
Mr Gas, your doing it on purpose quote is not as daft as it may sound, if Sainsbury's buy the land the Memorial stands on and the board decide they no longer wish to carry on with BRFC, then all the money they are owed will be recouped and they will pocket quite a bit more besides and the club will fold, they could just walk away.
If on the other hand they want to move into a new ground and make BRFC compete on a football field again then they are either unable or unwilling to make this happen.
NH has a vast personal wealth, he chooses rightly or wrongly NOT to fund the manager in his attempt to buy players that can get us out of this mess, he can afford it & to the best of my knowledge there are not the restrictions in the non league that would stop someone in say League 2 from bankrolling a spending spree to enable them to buy better players.
If NH thinks he can get out of the league we are currently languishing in "on the cheap" then yet again his decision making is wide of the mark.
Anyone looking at BRFC from the outside would be hard pushed to say that it is a well run club, the only way forward appears to be not to sell just the ground but the entire club, who would be willing to buy it I don't know, if it was put up for sale whose to say how many interested parties might step forward?
As it currently stands people all over the country who like football must look at BRFC and shake their heads, Luton needed a 30 point deduction to end up where we are,we did it all on our own, how did it come to this?
It came to this because the people running the club do not know enough about the business that they are involved in and added to that they seem reluctant to either seek or heed advice.
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Post by harrybuckle on Aug 13, 2014 16:34:41 GMT
Some very good points made by Tote end Charlie ..but believe me football fans throughout the country don't give a monkeys about BRFC ..JUST LOOK AT HEREFORD ..they will more than likely go to the wall ...only the hardcore gasheads have the Club at heart and amongst them I include SOME of our board.
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Post by Tote End Charlie on Aug 13, 2014 16:47:46 GMT
I agree Harry Buckle that fans throughout the country won't give a monkeys generally about BRFC, but when the name BRFC crops up for whatever reason in conversation( a visit to Bristol, a TV game on BT or an FA Cup draw that pits us against somebody of national interest) then I would suggest people will look at us and laugh and say crikey look at what has happened to Bristol Rovers?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 16:50:42 GMT
Yes people do laugh about us .Working with Stoke ,Vale and Wolves fans is becoming tedious.
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Post by LPGas on Aug 13, 2014 17:33:13 GMT
Some very good points made by Tote end Charlie ..but believe me football fans throughout the country don't give a monkeys about BRFC ..JUST LOOK AT HEREFORD ..they will more than likely go to the wall ...only the hardcore gasheads have the Club at heart and amongst them I include SOME of our board. Nick Higgs does not have a huge fortune. Yes he is a millionaire but he is a pauper compared to Lansdown
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Post by aldershotgas on Aug 13, 2014 17:44:00 GMT
It hit home last night - the actions of our clueless and inept board over the last 3 years are irreversible now.
The best we can hope for this season now is: 1) We somehow stay up 2) The fans finally unite and oust the clueless turds that run our club 3) Someone invests in the club (unlikely I know) 4) We somehow find/sign a centre forward whose goals tally will reach double figures in a season 5) We get organised next pre season - unlike this one, despite all of the time we had.....yet more total p*ss poor management
I will never watch Rovers again whilst the clowns run our club.....you are more than welcome to give it the normal "f*ck off down the gate, we don't need you"......but, there's hundreds and hundreds like me.....OUR BOARD WILL PUT US OUT OF BUSINESS....END OF
AND AS FOR THE COMMENTS OF OTHER CLUBS...... Had a business meeting today in Wales, guy I met was a Swans season ticket holder.......during our break we talked footy...his words "wan't to hug you for what's happened to your club.....how the hell has it gone so wrong....Rovers are a league club"
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Post by Tote End Charlie on Aug 13, 2014 18:32:11 GMT
Some very good points made by Tote end Charlie ..but believe me football fans throughout the country don't give a monkeys about BRFC ..JUST LOOK AT HEREFORD ..they will more than likely go to the wall ...only the hardcore gasheads have the Club at heart and amongst them I include SOME of our board. Nick Higgs does not have a huge fortune. Yes he is a millionaire but he is a pauper compared to Lansdown Comparing Higgs to Lansdown is irrelevant, Lansdown will not transform our fortunes because he has backed Bristol City, Higgs could transform our fortunes , if you do not consider his personal wealth to be a huge fortune then please enlighten me to as to what is?
It's not that he can't, it's that he chooses not to.
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Peter Parker
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 13, 2014 18:38:56 GMT
How much disposable income does NH actually have?
Dont forget he has a standard of living, i assume he Would like to maintain and he has already sunk a load of money in to Rovers even if it is because of his and the boards mistakes. He doesnt have an endless pot of money
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 18:57:34 GMT
But no one does anything about it!
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Post by aldershotgas on Aug 13, 2014 19:21:07 GMT
But no one does anything about it! Lots voting with their feet mate.....come November gates will be 4.5k
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 19:39:06 GMT
Good for wagamama league!
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mrgas
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Post by mrgas on Aug 13, 2014 19:39:20 GMT
Remember those days when Swansea, Cardiff, the Sh*t, Swindle, Plymouth, Oxford and Exeter were below us? Yeovil and Cheltenham were light years behind then. Even Newport County is way ahead.
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Post by Tote End Charlie on Aug 13, 2014 19:43:11 GMT
How much disposable income does NH actually have? Dont forget he has a standard of living, i assume he Would like to maintain and he has already sunk a load of money in to Rovers even if it is because of his and the boards mistakes. He doesnt have an endless pot of money He doesn't need an endless pot of money, but he does need to spend a percentage of what he has to undo the mess that he and the board have landed us in, he continually wants to take the cheap option, he is failing to see that a productive, prospering first team will bring revenues to the club that at the moment we he can only dream of.
Personally I feel if he really thought about it and really wants what is best for the club, he would put it up for sale, even he should be able to see that in his hands it is failing beyond question. If he wanted to stay on then he needs to bring to the club people capable of making decisions for the benefit of the club that have so far eluded him and his fellow board members.
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Post by Cosmic Pasty on Aug 13, 2014 20:32:30 GMT
Luton needed a 30 point deduction to end up where we are,we did it all on our own, how did it come to this? It came to this because the people running the club do not know enough about the business that they are involved in and added to that they seem reluctant to either seek or heed advice. Totally agree, with blue and white-quartered bells on. The way I see it, it's not about personal fortunes, what people are worth and how much they're willing to sling at the problem, it's about attitudes - namely that of being confident in asking for advice or assistance where aptitude is lacking. There are plenty of clubs out there with very little in the way of resources who are doing a lot better than we are, and are clearly doing something that we're not. For all it's 'massive' fanbase and 'massive' reputation (built on glory days now past), if attitudes don't change then this club is never going to be any better than whatever money is available to paper over the latest crack. There's nothing big, massive or clever about refusing to seek help if evidence is mounting that you're not doing very well without it. Furthermore, an observation that you're less than stellar in one area doesn't mean you stand accused of being an all-round no-hoper with nothing else to offer. There's nothing detrimental in saying 'The board are out of their depth and need expert help. I support any efforts made in seeking and applying it'. That's the message I wish we could get across to them before it's too late, and it's short enough for their beloved Twitter not to choke on either.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 20:51:24 GMT
Nick Higgs does not have a huge fortune. Yes he is a millionaire but he is a pauper compared to Lansdown Comparing Higgs to Lansdown is irrelevant, Lansdown will not transform our fortunes because he has backed Bristol City, Higgs could transform our fortunes , if you do not consider his personal wealth to be a huge fortune then please enlighten me to as to what is?
It's not that he can't, it's that he chooses not to.
Why exactly so you think NH should subsidise "your" football club out of his personal funds? Rovers is a business, either it succeeds or it fails, if the latter it goes bust. Why would he choose to support a failing business and end up skint himself? Are you willing to do that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 22:50:18 GMT
er we have only played 2 games!
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Post by aldershotgas on Aug 13, 2014 23:43:58 GMT
er we have only played 2 games! err were sh*t and be really honest with yourself, do you see us finishing in the top half - I will settle right now for 5th from bottom
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