kingswood Polak
Without music life would be a mistake
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 12, 2019 14:22:20 GMT
We have enough of a nanny state as it is thanks. You do it your way, that’s fine but there are plenty of us that can and do drink sensibly. You really have an awfully slanted view of alcohol. Why not start on chem trails, fluoride and the plethora of meds , used in antidepressants, to control us ? Because I have no evidence for chemtrails, or that 911 was an inside job, or any of that other batsh1t crazy conspiracy stuff, but there's plenty of evidence that alcohol is harmful. As long as the streets are more dangerous because of drunks, as long as the roads are more dangerous because of drunks, I'll keep complaining. Obviously people can't be trusted to act responsibly. On average, in this country, every 3 days 2 people die on our roads in accidents where the driver responsible is over the drink drive limit. Every year many thousands are injured by drunk drivers. Of course that's never the person you are talking to, they are sensible and would never drive if they were unfit, it's always some other idiot. If one wished then statistics could be provided for many other things. I could write a very long list. Whilst I agree that alcohol does cause many problems, I also understand that we have the ability to control it. I could go into a diatribe on fluoride alone and then there are certain types of immunisations that are genuinely lethal. If you want proof then look up auto immune system diseases. There are hot spots for them and they are at epidemic level but it’s not being reported in mainstream media. I now have 2 that we’re so extremely rare. You can call me crazy & I will just let it slide over my head so feel free. Life kills. You should only live one day of every 4 😂. You probably won’t be interested but look up the Bilderberg group and it’s agenda. People really need to wake up and it bothers me that so many will just, by default, believe anything the read, on social media, but will never research it. I’m glad I have never really fit in, it has kept me alive. I actually diagnosed myself as my GP would not entertain the possibility that I could have such a rare disease. Anyway, I have digressed. Have a great weekend & UTG
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trymer
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Post by trymer on Jan 12, 2019 15:16:39 GMT
Tribalism has been mentioned and Oxford,reminded me of the Zoologist and (former ?) Oxford Utd board member Desmond Morris who wrote a book called 'The Soccer Tribe' very interesting it is too. Oxford had hooligans in the past,I remember about 1970(ish) some of the city lads at school saying that a big mob of Oxford hoolies wearing Yellow hard hats had taken the East end,I went to Oxford with Rovers in 75 ? and there was lots of trouble as the London road end was split between home and away supporters with only one way in ! I find all of his books fascinating as I studied human behaviourism for 18 months. From Pavlovs dogs and conditioning to the programming and mapping of certain brain areas. Whether we like it or not we still have primate, reptilian and mammalian layers. I guess that primitive part has just been suppressed as we have evolved or been conditioned. Thanks for the recommendation mate. Will definitely be buying tha, if it’s still available. Nice one There is a 3 minute interview on Youtube 'Desmond Morris why football is the most popular sport in the world' where he explains his football tribe theory. The book is probably for sale on Ebay. Some of the books by Dunning,Murphy and Williams are very good too,interesting that fights and rowdy behaviour at football matches go back to the 19th century but teenagers with more money,not having to work on Saturdays,easier and cheaper travel and the Skinhead movement or youth cult combined to bring about a much larger scale of violence in the late 60s.
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trymer
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Post by trymer on Jan 12, 2019 15:22:03 GMT
Because I have no evidence for chemtrails, or that 911 was an inside job, or any of that other batsh1t crazy conspiracy stuff, but there's plenty of evidence that alcohol is harmful. As long as the streets are more dangerous because of drunks, as long as the roads are more dangerous because of drunks, I'll keep complaining. Obviously people can't be trusted to act responsibly. On average, in this country, every 3 days 2 people die on our roads in accidents where the driver responsible is over the drink drive limit. Every year many thousands are injured by drunk drivers. Of course that's never the person you are talking to, they are sensible and would never drive if they were unfit, it's always some other idiot. If one wished then statistics could be provided for many other things. I could write a very long list. Whilst I agree that alcohol does cause many problems, I also understand that we have the ability to control it. I could go into a diatribe on fluoride alone and then there are certain types of immunisations that are genuinely lethal. If you want proof then look up auto immune system diseases. There are hot spots for them and they are at epidemic level but it’s not being reported in mainstream media. I now have 2 that we’re so extremely rare. You can call me crazy & I will just let it slide over my head so feel free. Life kills. You should only live one day of every 4 😂. You probably won’t be interested but look up the Bilderberg group and it’s agenda. People really need to wake up and it bothers me that so many will just, by default, believe anything the read, on social media, but will never research it. I’m glad I have never really fit in, it has kept me alive. I actually diagnosed myself as my GP would not entertain the possibility that I could have such a rare disease. Anyway, I have digressed. Have a great weekend & UTG I do think that if Alcohol was invented now it would be banned within months as a Class A drug, because it has been with us for a long time and because of the tax revenue it brings in it is 'acceptable'. You only have to go for a walk early on re-cycling day to see how much alcohol is consumed,maybe in the future it will gradually become less acceptable like Tobacco.
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kingswood Polak
Without music life would be a mistake
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 12, 2019 15:39:10 GMT
If one wished then statistics could be provided for many other things. I could write a very long list. Whilst I agree that alcohol does cause many problems, I also understand that we have the ability to control it. I could go into a diatribe on fluoride alone and then there are certain types of immunisations that are genuinely lethal. If you want proof then look up auto immune system diseases. There are hot spots for them and they are at epidemic level but it’s not being reported in mainstream media. I now have 2 that we’re so extremely rare. You can call me crazy & I will just let it slide over my head so feel free. Life kills. You should only live one day of every 4 😂. You probably won’t be interested but look up the Bilderberg group and it’s agenda. People really need to wake up and it bothers me that so many will just, by default, believe anything the read, on social media, but will never research it. I’m glad I have never really fit in, it has kept me alive. I actually diagnosed myself as my GP would not entertain the possibility that I could have such a rare disease. Anyway, I have digressed. Have a great weekend & UTG I do think that if Alcohol was invented now it would be banned within months as a Class A drug, because it has been with us for a long time and because of the tax revenue it brings in it is 'acceptable'. You only have to go for a walk early on re-cycling day to see how much alcohol is consumed,maybe in the future it will gradually become less acceptable like Tobacco.
I agree and it was certainly a gateway drug, for me though I would vehemently oppose a ban. I did like the way the USA deals with it and whenever I visit, I’m always nicely surprised when I go to various sporting events
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Post by The Concept on Jan 12, 2019 15:42:37 GMT
The oft used excuse for trouble at football matches, being because football is tribal, conveniently avoids the fact that tribes soon realised that to be a success, for the good of the tribe, it would suit them to get on with other tribes.
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kingswood Polak
Without music life would be a mistake
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 12, 2019 15:42:56 GMT
I find all of his books fascinating as I studied human behaviourism for 18 months. From Pavlovs dogs and conditioning to the programming and mapping of certain brain areas. Whether we like it or not we still have primate, reptilian and mammalian layers. I guess that primitive part has just been suppressed as we have evolved or been conditioned. Thanks for the recommendation mate. Will definitely be buying tha, if it’s still available. Nice one There is a 3 minute interview on Youtube 'Desmond Morris why football is the most popular sport in the world' where he explains his football tribe theory. The book is probably for sale on Ebay. Some of the books by Dunning,Murphy and Williams are very good too,interesting that fights and rowdy behaviour at football matches go back to the 19th century but teenagers with more money,not having to work on Saturdays,easier and cheaper travel and the Skinhead movement or youth cult combined to bring about a much larger scale of violence in the late 60s.
Thank you. I will look at that and look into the others. If you’re interested then read B F Skinner studies in human behaviourism, it’s a great read and by a superb teacher and one who had obviously done a lot of work.
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