harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 28, 2018 18:11:57 GMT
Is the game being screened throughout Asia or something ? Why would OUFC want an early start it upsets travelling fans and from experience hell to find a car parking space near the 3 sided stadium. Decided to boycott this one in anger at early kick off. Fans views must be taken into account. Don't tell me our New Years day home game starts at 1pm.
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Post by gastastrophe on Dec 28, 2018 18:26:32 GMT
Thames Valley Police.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 18:59:25 GMT
Correct. The Police hate football supporters. Worth remembering that most of the draconian laws used for football supporters were brought in after a huge state and police cover up. Merry Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 21:30:18 GMT
I went to oxford 2 years ago and there were a minority of rovers "fans" causing trouble before,during and after the match.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 22:18:30 GMT
Correct. The Police hate football supporters. Worth remembering that most of the draconian laws used for football supporters were brought in after a huge state and police cover up. Merry Christmas. Can't think why.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 22:45:18 GMT
Correct. The Police hate football supporters. Worth remembering that most of the draconian laws used for football supporters were brought in after a huge state and police cover up. Merry Christmas. Can't think why. View AttachmentHow come you didn’t highlight the deaths of football supporters that the police and state covered up blaming on other supporters?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 23:27:27 GMT
How come you didn’t highlight the deaths of football supporters that the police and state covered up blaming on other supporters? Because I wasn't replying to that point. Huge mistakes were made that day. The cover up was a disgrace. The length of time it's taken to admit publicly what actually happened a disgrace also. No problem saying so, anyone who looks at the evidence would agree.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 23:35:41 GMT
How come you didn’t highlight the deaths of football supporters that the police and state covered up blaming on other supporters? Because I wasn't replying to that point. Huge mistakes were made that day that. The cover up was a disgrace. The length of time it's taken to admit publicly what actually happened a disgrace also. No problem saying so, anyone who looks at the evidence would agree. and police and lawmakers decisions ever since have been based on that. Worth noting how much these lies cost football clubs and still allow the police to make money out of them. May as well change the kick off to 1am, they just don’t want anyone attending.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 0:00:57 GMT
Because I wasn't replying to that point. Huge mistakes were made that day. The cover up was a disgrace. The length of time it's taken to admit publicly what actually happened a disgrace also. No problem saying so, anyone who looks at the evidence would agree. and police and lawmakers decisions ever since have been based on that. Worth noting how much these lies cost football clubs and still allow the police to make money out of them. May as well change the kick off to 1am, they just don’t want anyone attending. That brings us back to the point I made. If people could be trusted to act responsibly, there would be a couple of Police at each game. But some people can't be trusted.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 10:23:29 GMT
and police and lawmakers decisions ever since have been based on that. Worth noting how much these lies cost football clubs and still allow the police to make money out of them. May as well change the kick off to 1am, they just don’t want anyone attending. That brings us back to the point I made. If people could be trusted to act responsibly, there would be a couple of Police at each game. But some people can't be trusted. The point you made shows one bottle being thrown. Worth remembering vile rugby supporters don’t get the same treatment. jomec.co.uk/thecardiffian/2017/11/28/rugby-fans-worse-football-fans-say-police/
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Post by Captain Jayho on Dec 29, 2018 10:56:24 GMT
It must just be an extraordinary coincidence but I've never acted like a complete arsehole at a football match and I've also never had a single problem with policing at a football match.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 11:08:02 GMT
Why are you doing this? The image clearly shows mass disorder. That's why football supporters like me, who don't sing childish tribal songs, who don't want to fight anybody, who don't arrive at games with a belly full of beer, have to put up with heavy handed Police tactics. What do you think would happen if there was no Police presence? Sure, we can have a discussion about the conduct of Rugby supporters as well, not a problem. But the problem isn't the sport itself, it's the pathetic way that society glorifies consumption of alcohol, it's there in the piece you link to, alcohol related disorder. I would be in favour of an alcohol breath test to gain entry to any sporting event and a ban on selling the stuff inside of stadiums. Your link also demonstrates that what Police are doing at football venues is making the events safer for people like me to attend, good I say. I thank them for it. There's a slightly different problem as well in Australia and NZ apparently (Maybe our contributor from NZ can confirm?), not so much in the stadiums, but people attend, drink too much and then try to drive home. Alcohol is a blight on society, that's before we even begin with the health problems it causes.
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Post by dido on Dec 29, 2018 11:16:13 GMT
Totally agree with Bamber (a first?). Disappointed by the usually rational Chewbacca's stance.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 30, 2018 7:47:53 GMT
Why are you doing this? The image clearly shows mass disorder. That's why football supporters like me, who don't sing childish tribal songs, who don't want to fight anybody, who don't arrive at games with a belly full of beer, have to put up with heavy handed Police tactics. What do you think would happen if there was no Police presence? Sure, we can have a discussion about the conduct of Rugby supporters as well, not a problem. But the problem isn't the sport itself, it's the pathetic way that society glorifies consumption of alcohol, it's there in the piece you link to, alcohol related disorder. I would be in favour of an alcohol breath test to gain entry to any sporting event and a ban on selling the stuff inside of stadiums. Your link also demonstrates that what Police are doing at football venues is making the events safer for people like me to attend, good I say. I thank them for it. There's a slightly different problem as well in Australia and NZ apparently (Maybe our contributor from NZ can confirm?), not so much in the stadiums, but people attend, drink too much and then try to drive home. Alcohol is a blight on society, that's before we even begin with the health problems it causes. Haha! Coming from someone whom moans about the TG introduction of electronic ticketing, a proposal to introduce breath testing for entry to stadia!? TG would be onto a winner with you, Bambi! Preposterous. If there is a problem, and I can't remember last time there was serious disorder on a multitude scale (trying to keep in proportion) in a stadium, it's been a one off. Trying to keep things in perspective, issues of skirmish, I'm estimating involve probably 1-2% on average, at most. If we have something like 50 odd banning orders atm, our average home attendance is way over 5000. Factor in twice as many, probably being kind, and you have a total over reaction to a problem largely stamped out by authorities. I understand the distaste violence leaves, but to suggest what is in the post I'm replying to is frankly ridiculous and blowing everything out of proportion, imo.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Dec 30, 2018 8:03:33 GMT
Why should I be breath tested? Love a beverage of the alcoholic variety, never thrown a punch/acted in an aggressive manner to another supporter/copper/steward in my entire life.
I’m there to watch & support my team, same as the next guy is there to act a tough guy and provoke a scrap with opposition fans. In the perfect world, the latter is all down to those few pints of cider. Unfortunately, it just isn’t.
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Post by Igitur on Dec 30, 2018 9:17:48 GMT
I don't think the group of Oxford people (not football supporters in my view) being shepherded away from the back of our stand by a load of coppers and two police horses were going to say "Well done, and have a good trip home".
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Post by The Concept on Dec 30, 2018 9:39:20 GMT
Oxford United Why a 1pm KO ? …
Because when we played each other earlier this season, at The Mem, a group from Oxford were causing trouble both before and after the game.
On the way to the game we almost walked into a skirmish on Gloucester Road, going up Ashley Down Road, and had to take a detour.
After the game Oxford fans old, bald, fat, morons, were running waddling down Glos Road, and then entered chair hurling contests at places like the usually laid-back Tinto Lounge.
And then continued to keep A&S P busy into the evening, being naughty in the pubs around the arches.
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 30, 2018 10:50:10 GMT
Oxford have got themselves a bit of reputation recently. "Most" Clubs supporters are better behaved than say 20 years ago (significantly better than 30-40 years ago). Went to the Manor Ground loads in the 90's - 00's and never saw any trouble. In fact the only trouble I saw was Rovers fans abusing Carl Saunders and my mate 'dangerous Bailey' (he wasn't that dangerous BTW) getting into a fight with them and getting them ejected. Sadly Poxford have bucked that trend recently - maybe the new Stadium near the Black Leys estate has brought in the morons. Poxford/Swindle is a hark back to the dark days of the 70's/80's. An unhealthy % of Poxford fans are twats and the Police IMHO probably did the right thing in bringing the kick off forward. Introducing alcohol into their tiny tiny brains doesn't help.
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 30, 2018 10:54:05 GMT
Oxford have got themselves a bit of reputation recently. "Most" Clubs supporters are better behaved than say 20 years ago (significantly better than 30-40 years ago). Went to the Manor Ground loads in the 90's - 00's and never saw any trouble. In fact the only trouble I saw was Rovers fans abusing Carl Saunders and my mate 'dangerous Bailey' (he wasn't that dangerous BTW) getting into a fight with them and getting them ejected. Sadly Poxford have bucked that trend recently - maybe the new Stadium near the Black Leys estate has brought in the morons. Poxford/Swindle is a hark back to the dark days of the 70's/80's. An unhealthy % of Poxford fans are twats and the Police IMHO probably did the right thing in bringing the kick off forward. Introducing alcohol into their tiny tiny brains doesn't help. no trouble at the Manor Ground ? OMG saw lots and a car over turned by Os fans chasing gasheads after a 4-2 Boxing Day win for the home side must have been about 1982.
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 30, 2018 11:08:25 GMT
Errr... that was 36 years ago...
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