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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 18:48:54 GMT
DC says in post match interview disappointed alot and we can use this draw as a building block (I am inferring he's not been happy with defence or goalkeeper situation). Fair comment and somewhere near part of the truth imo. But... Surely that, of majority of that should have been done pre-season? We've been aware of issues at left back and keeper since May at least. We're 8matches in and using a building block. That's almost 20% season wasted. Or is it just me? DC wouldn't know a good start to the season if it bit him on the ass. This is all par for the course but me personally, despite all his achievements I am struggling to back someone who has consistently given 23 rivals in the league such a massive head start on us each season. It isn't good enough and it frightens me that over 4+ seasons he simply has not got the hang of how to recruit and set a side out to be competitive from day one. How long can such a manager's job be tenable?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 19:01:39 GMT
Nobody will be training on those pitches any time soon. Around about now is the latest that you can seed for the grass to root properly for next spring. Am interested in that. How do cricket pitches recover for next season as still playing now? Didn't say they needed seeding today, but soon. If a bloke was on his way with a huge box of Fisons my feeling is that we would be being told all about it.
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Post by bloogas on Sept 1, 2018 20:16:30 GMT
I’ll take a good battling point right now. Move on to the West Country derby. 1 shot on target against a team who will be relegated, in reality they are a L2 team, and that shot was a penalty. Somethings going wrong behind the scenes, there's enough quality in that squad to produce better than this. You are so,so, right. I spoke to two guys before the game who said as much, although specific details not available. Whether we bumble on or things come to a head - who knows.......
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Post by swissgas on Sept 1, 2018 20:51:24 GMT
1 shot on target against a team who will be relegated, in reality they are a L2 team, and that shot was a penalty. Somethings going wrong behind the scenes, there's enough quality in that squad to produce better than this. You are so,so, right. I spoke to two guys before the game who said as much, although specific details not available. Whether we bumble on or things come to a head - who knows....... Perhaps we need some reassuring words from CEO Martyn Starnes ?
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 1, 2018 21:13:13 GMT
You are so,so, right. I spoke to two guys before the game who said as much, although specific details not available. Whether we bumble on or things come to a head - who knows....... Perhaps we need some reassuring words from CEO Martyn Starnes ? I thought he was mute. Where's "Crazy Gang"? Is he not allowed to talk any more?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 21:33:40 GMT
I'm still not clear what all of these people do. President WAQ Chairman (of ducking what?) SH Chief Executive MS Commercial/Stadium/Shop/Marketing/etc Manager TG The market's broken.
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Post by swissgas on Sept 1, 2018 22:06:27 GMT
Perhaps we need some reassuring words from CEO Martyn Starnes ? I thought he was mute. Where's "Crazy Gang"? Is he not allowed to talk any more? As a country music fan he may choose to sing his next update with help from the new backroom staff ...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 23:26:15 GMT
Thanks,its always good to get an update from a person who was at the match. Sorry, will check in future to see; A. If I'm entitled to make comment based on being in a relegation spot and having just managed 0 shots on target from open play against another team, also in a relegation position. B. What the time of day is, so that I can assess how tired and emotional you are likely to be. I just assumed you must have been at the match to be so certain that shrewsbury will be relegated. So basically by your thinking the bottom 4 teams now will all be relegated?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 23:36:04 GMT
DC says in post match interview disappointed alot and we can use this draw as a building block (I am inferring he's not been happy with defence or goalkeeper situation). Fair comment and somewhere near part of the truth imo. But... Surely that, of majority of that should have been done pre-season? We've been aware of issues at left back and keeper since May at least. We're 8matches in and using a building block. That's almost 20% season wasted. Or is it just me? DC wouldn't know a good start to the season if it bit him on the ass. This is all par for the course but me personally, despite all his achievements I am struggling to back someone who has consistently given 23 rivals in the league such a massive head start on us each season. It isn't good enough and it frightens me that over 4+ seasons he simply has not got the hang of how to recruit and set a side out to be competitive from day one. How long can such a manager's job be tenable? Ultimately its where you end up though surely? If you believe 2nd 3rd 9th 13th and a two division step up isnt good enough thats up to you but its fantastic with me. With the current season if we are struggling in mid october he will get the sack and you can smile again.
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Post by alloutofgas on Sept 2, 2018 7:26:09 GMT
I am not a rose tinter, but grounded in history and realism. I have been supporting Gas for over fifty years, and during that time third tier is our natural level. If anything the changes to English football, rule changes with transfers, influx of money into the premiership and championship, all five divisions are even tougher and football is so much more follow the money favouring the people with it to burn these days than in the past. How can we compare today with a past where there was maximum wage, it’s chalk and cheese. Third tier is a good level for a club that’s the size we are right now. Just being competitive in here year after year is a worthy challenge right now. Which brings me nicely to my bewilderment with some of you thinking what the current board doing for us is too little too slow. You what? I wanted a kite. About 45 years ago. My Dad said, you want that kite in the shop window, let’s go down and get it then. So off we go. And there it was hung up in the window, in the form of a bat. A bat kite! My Dad said 45p, you got the money? I said I don’t have anything. He said you can’t have it then. So we went home. Wail (sic) doesn’t have abramovichs riches. He’s not a fake shake (sic) because he’s not a sheik. He’s in a wealthy family, and he’s the mad football fanatic who will burn their cash, not make more money for them out of football. we needed some fresh ownership and direction. We got it. They cleared the wonga loans, presided over two promotions. Bank that. It don’t feel like we are going to the wall tomorrow. And they have given Clarke a competitive budget, not a relegation or even bottom half budget. I think that’s fair enough. Some of you need to take the lesson of the bat kite analogy and reconcile your own expectations with reality. A football stadium comes with a price tag, just ask Arsenal, Southampton, Supporters today and spurs fans in 2020. Where are you saying that sort of money is for Rovers stadium? Solid third tier building organically to lower half Championship. Why would any level headed, blue n white blooded, fair minded gashead have a problem with that? Right. That’s said. I’m off for a curry. Yes the owners are so good aren't they ? they have Increased the clubs annual debt. Taken on a paid Chairman. A London office. A CEO. Bought a field in Almondsbury. Sold the best players. Yet people like you think that they are great but DC who got Rovers promoted from the Conference by bringing in players that nobody had heard of and then getting a second promotion in successive seasons is the problem here !
It’s absurd that after two and a half years of nothing that people still swallow this Evolution not Revolution rubbish. The clear implication at time of takeover was there would be a sea change in how the club would be ran. Infrastructure, team, player development etc etc. As we currently speak, the club is in a shambolic state and the Arabs frankly have not got a scooby doo apart from all expenditure is borrowed against the Mem. Utter charlatans and probably the biggest threat we’ve faced to our existence
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Post by alloutofgas on Sept 2, 2018 7:27:14 GMT
You are so,so, right. I spoke to two guys before the game who said as much, although specific details not available. Whether we bumble on or things come to a head - who knows....... Perhaps we need some reassuring words from CEO Martyn Starnes ? Sorry, who?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 8:08:21 GMT
Think the second new Stand/Tent goes in this week.That's something to look forward to!! Gorringe will probably try to charge the workmen to get in.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 11:08:32 GMT
Think the second new Stand/Tent goes in this week.That's something to look forward to!! Gorringe will probably try to charge the workmen to get in. Good shout. He should
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 11:09:18 GMT
Yes the owners are so good aren't they ? they have Increased the clubs annual debt. Taken on a paid Chairman. A London office. A CEO. Bought a field in Almondsbury. Sold the best players. Yet people like you think that they are great but DC who got Rovers promoted from the Conference by bringing in players that nobody had heard of and then getting a second promotion in successive seasons is the problem here !
It’s absurd that after two and a half years of nothing that people still swallow this Evolution not Revolution rubbish. The clear implication at time of takeover was there would be a sea change in how the club would be ran. Infrastructure, team, player development etc etc. As we currently speak, the club is in a shambolic state and the Arabs frankly have not got a scooby doo apart from all expenditure is borrowed against the Mem. Utter charlatans and probably the biggest threat we’ve faced to our existence Are they Arabs?
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Sept 2, 2018 11:12:49 GMT
Yes the owners are so good aren't they ? they have Increased the clubs annual debt. Taken on a paid Chairman. A London office. A CEO. Bought a field in Almondsbury. Sold the best players. Yet people like you think that they are great but DC who got Rovers promoted from the Conference by bringing in players that nobody had heard of and then getting a second promotion in successive seasons is the problem here !
It’s absurd that after two and a half years of nothing that people still swallow this Evolution not Revolution rubbish. The clear implication at time of takeover was there would be a sea change in how the club would be ran. Infrastructure, team, player development etc etc. As we currently speak, the club is in a shambolic state and the Arabs frankly have not got a scooby doo apart from all expenditure is borrowed against the Mem. Utter charlatans and probably the biggest threat we’ve faced to our existence The fat builder and non league football was a far bigger threat tbh.
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Post by alloutofgas on Sept 2, 2018 12:52:03 GMT
It’s absurd that after two and a half years of nothing that people still swallow this Evolution not Revolution rubbish. The clear implication at time of takeover was there would be a sea change in how the club would be ran. Infrastructure, team, player development etc etc. As we currently speak, the club is in a shambolic state and the Arabs frankly have not got a scooby doo apart from all expenditure is borrowed against the Mem. Utter charlatans and probably the biggest threat we’ve faced to our existence The fat builder and non league football was a far bigger threat tbh. Spending is spiralling out of control all borrowed against the only asset DS own. Unsustainable. The ‘fat builder’ was Chairman when we got back into the football league FYI the AQ’s trucked up in February and hung onto the coat tails of DC’s double promotion. Ever since lots of hot air, appointments, pointless interviews and an idiotic hiring and firing policy where we have a President, a Chairman, a CEO and a well, I don’t know WTF he is mr Gorringe. Five good pedigree L1 players gone and inferior players signed. We are going backwards at a pretty fast rate.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 13:21:42 GMT
Gorringe will probably try to charge the workmen to get in. Good shout. He should What, try to charge our contractors to get on site, so that we have a good reason to get shot of him and get someone sensible in?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 17:49:54 GMT
What, try to charge our contractors to get on site, so that we have a good reason to get shot of him and get someone sensible in? Better than taking a cut
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 19:02:26 GMT
What, try to charge our contractors to get on site, so that we have a good reason to get shot of him and get someone sensible in? Better than taking a cut Both sound ridiculous.
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Post by stroudblue on Sept 2, 2018 19:09:39 GMT
The fat builder and non league football was a far bigger threat tbh. Spending is spiralling out of control all borrowed against the only asset DS own. Unsustainable. The ‘fat builder’ was Chairman when we got back into the football league FYI the AQ’s trucked up in February and hung onto the coat tails of DC’s double promotion. Ever since lots of hot air, appointments, pointless interviews and an idiotic hiring and firing policy where we have a President, a Chairman, a CEO and a well, I don’t know WTF he is mr Gorringe. Five good pedigree L1 players gone and inferior players signed. We are going backwards at a pretty fast rate. Higgs tried his best to make the Sainsbury deal work, appointed experienced managers with a good track record, gave Rovers a budget above the average in both divisions...all let him down. Also, stuck with DC when Rovers were rock bottom. This decision alone was attracting a fair amount of criticism at the time. Fair play to the man, in my book he did nothing wrong.
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