A Lack of Investment

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A Lack of Investment Jan 23, 2018 21:23:22 GMT o2o2bo2ba and Colyton Gas. like this

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Now, in recent months we've seen a lot regarding the lack of investment by the new owners in the football club. This isn't a new thing, the football club itself hasn't built a new stand since the Tote End in 1935 (a stand that has been demolished for 31 years). Now many will point to the key investment that was the purchase of The Mem in 1997 but since then the following developments have taken place by football clubs;

1997:
Bolton Wanderers - New Stadium
Stoke City - New Stadium
Derby County - New Stadium
Sunderland - New Stadium
Crawley Town - New Stadium
Huddersfield Town - North Stand
Portsmouth - Fratton End
Gillingham - Gordon Road Stand

1998:
Reading - New Stadium
Preston North End - The Kop
Charlton - West Stand

1999:
Wigan Athletic - New Stadium
Barnsley - North Stand
Birmingham City - Gil Merrick Stand
Bury - Cemetery End
Gillingham - Rainham End
Crewe Alexandra - Main Stand

2000:
Manchester United - East Stand
Newcastle United - Milburn & Leazes Stand
Bradford City - Kop
Gillingham - Medway Stand
Rochdale - Willbutts Lane Stand
Exeter City - Big Bank

2001:
Bournemouth - New Stadium
Southampton - New Stadium
Oxford United - New Stadium
Aston Villa - Trinity Road Stand
Chelsea - West Stand
Manchester United - West Stand
West Brom - East Stand
Ipswich Town - Alf Ramsay Stand
Preston North End - Alan Kelly Stand
Bradford City - Main Stand
Plymouth Argyle - Lyndhurst Stand, Davenport End & Barn Park End
Cheltenham Town - Thomson & Bancks Stand
Exeter City - Ivor Doble Stand
Mansfield Town - North Stand, Quarry Lane End and West Stand
Stevenage - South Stand

2002:
Leicester City - New Stadium
Manchester City - New Stadium
Hull City - New Stadium
Ipswich Town - Bobby Robson Stand
Blackpool - West Stand & Kop
Charlton - North Stand
Cambridge United - South Stand

2004:
Fulham - Hammersmith End & Putney End
Norwich City - South Stand

2005:
Swansea City - New Stadium
Burton Albion - New Stadium
Coventry City - New Stadium
Cheltenham Town - Hazelwoods Stand

2006:
Arsenal - New Stadium
Forest Green Rovers - New Stadium
Manchester United - North West & North East Quadrants

2007:
Doncaster Rovers - New Stadium
MK Dons - New Stadium
Shrewsbury Town - New Stadium

2008:
Colchester United - New Stadium
Preston North End - Pavilion Stand
Fleetwood Town - Highbury Stand, Percy Ronson Terrace & Memorial Stand

2009:
Cardiff City - New Stadium

2010:
Chesterfield - New Stadium
Morecambe - New Stadium
Blackpool - South Stand

2011:
Brighton & Hove Albion - New Stadium
Blackpool - East Stand
Fleetwood Town - Parkside Stand
Newport County - Bisley Stand*

2012:
West Ham United - New Stadium
Rotherham United - New Stadium
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Stan Cullis Stand
AFC Wimbledon - Kingston Road End

2013:
Barnet - New Stadium
Bournemouth - Ted MacDougall Stand

2014:
Watford - Sir Elton John Stand
Peterborough United - Moy's End

2015:
Bristol City - South & Dolman Stands
Oldham Athletic - North Stand

2016:
Liverpool - Main Stand
Bristol City - Lansdown Stand
Barnet - North Stand

2018+:
Tottenham Hotspurs - New Stadium
Exeter City - Main Stand & St James' Park End

*Built before Newport County starting renting Rodney Parade.

The list does not include to the partially completed structures at Port Vale & Northampton Town as well as Temporary Structures without roofs or solid roofs (Crawley, Gillingham, etc).

Pretty fing damning.

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warehamgas Predictions League Joined: May 2014 Posts: 3,433	A Lack of Investment Jan 23, 2018 21:30:16 GMT kingswood Polak likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by warehamgas on Jan 23, 2018 21:30:16 GMT Well done chewbacca, great research. Problem is it just makes everything so much worse!! Blimey, even Rochdale and Exeter have got new stuff! 😂 UTG!

PessimistGas Joined: May 2014 Posts: 1,276	A Lack of Investment Jan 23, 2018 21:31:20 GMT via mobile kingswood Polak likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by PessimistGas on Jan 23, 2018 21:31:20 GMT Yeah but there are no other Steve Lansdowns in Bristol. Well we've always been s**t. If it wasn't for the owners we wouldn't even have a club. These things take time. And so on....
	All this is nothing to do with me - I signed Rickie Lambert.

Deleted Joined: January 1970 Posts: 0	A Lack of Investment Jan 23, 2018 21:39:40 GMT via mobile kingswood Polak likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 21:39:40 GMT Worth noting this is just in the 92, doesn’t include the hundreds of impressive developments by non-league, rugby and cricket clubs in the last 21 years.

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Jan 23, 2018 21:39:40 GMT @chewbacca said:

Worth noting this is just in the 92, doesn’t include the hundreds of impressive developments by non-league, rugby and cricket clubs in the last 21 years.

There has never been any shortage of excuses for failure and this continues to this day.

The big excuse was always the lack of our own ground to either redevelop or sell. Then we got a lucky break and picked up the Mem for a small fraction of its value which should have been a springboard. There is no excuse for the following two decades plus of stagnation.

Still, as long as our owner hitting the dancefloor is Blackpool....

All this is nothing to do with me - I signed Rickie Lambert.

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A Lack of Investment Jan 23, 2018 21:57:32 GMT kingswood Polak likes this

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Post by gasheadpirate on Jan 23, 2018 21:57:32 GMT

To be fair, we have got new seats that say BRFC in the tent and and a second tent stad, not to mention the disabled covered areas and the lovely entrance to the corporate area. Progress has been made and we know we are going to get improved toilet facilities. Nothing else needed here. 😩

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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jan 23, 2018 22:05:46 GMT

Notts County too re -developed .My village team have a new clubhouse and changing rooms thanks to grants.Next interview must be better than the last about new hand driers.Just goes on and on and on ,the lack of anything substantial.Only Accrington now worse than us.When we go to places like Donny this Sat don't the board WANT to improve our dump.Aren't they embarrassed? Be patient,they say.Come on Mr Wael.Get it sorted or at least tell us where we stand.How long can the lack of action go on?

o2o2bo2ba Joined: August 2014 Posts: 6,960	A Lack of Investment Jan 23, 2018 22:07:54 GMT via mobile kingswood Polak likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 23, 2018 22:07:54 GMT I thought we made investment with innovative and pro active, forward thinking, upwardly mobile stadium manager to help with improvements? Oh...

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Jan 23, 2018 22:07:54 GMT o2o2bo2ba said:

I thought we made investment with innovative and pro active, forward thinking, upwardly mobile stadium manager to help with improvements?

Oh...

Don't be like that about Tom.

Have a word with him, either at the Valentines Dinner or on the evening of the shirt sponsors' draw, I'm sure he'll explain all the things that are changing and how he'll soon have the club rolling in dosh

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Jan 23, 2018 22:05:46 GMT Colyton Gas. said:

Notts County too re -developed

Meadow Lane was completed in 1994. As this is post-1997 it misses out the likes of Millwall, Walsall, Scunthorpe, Burnley, Leeds, Forest, and many more that developed in the late 80’s and early 90’s.

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Chewie has a very good point.

The only structure we've seen created for the fans was a roof that we paid for over the Thatchers End (was Blackthorn End).

Everything else, tent end, guiness suite (!) etc is for the club to make extra money. The fans' comfort is an after thought or by-product.

For many years we have been promised things, been given excuses, palmed off, silent board, etc but the fact remains (apart from the assimilation of the Mem) we haven't seen anything new introduced in form of structure or stadia in generations that almost every other club has provided for their fanbase.

And the transfer fees coming in, sponsors, corporate hospitality, functions on non football days, merchandise and the humble few quid paid at the turnstiles amount to millions £ over said time.

It really is pathetic.

And yet very few moan. Maybe we're easily pleased?

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Jan 23, 2018 22:20:56 GMT @chewbacca said:

Jan 23, 2018 22:05:46 GMT Colyton Gas. said:

Notts County too re -developed

Meadow Lane was completed in 1994. As this is post-1997 it misses out the likes of Millwall, Walsall, Scunthorpe, Burnley, Leeds, Forest, and many more that developed in the late 80’s and early 90’s.

And Darlo!

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Jan 23, 2018 22:18:22 GMT @bambergasgroin said:

Jan 23, 2018 22:07:54 GMT o2o2bo2ba said:

I thought we made investment with innovative and pro active, forward thinking, upwardly mobile stadium manager to help with improvements?

Oh...

Don't be like that about Tom.

Have a word with him, either at the Valentines Dinner or on the evening of the shirt sponsors' draw, I'm sure he'll explain all the things that are changing and how he'll soon have the club rolling in dosh

Perhaps you should suggest an event that is actually taking place Bamber. 🤔🤔

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The history of investment and management is poor.
However its too soon imo to judge the new owners.
I for one will be giving them a chance to take the club forward after the UWE setback.
They took over a club already years behind most clubs.

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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Jan 23, 2018 22:31:36 GMT

This is probably the best thread I’ve ever read on either forums, what now needs to be done is some IT savvy guy or girl needs to send off the OP stats along with all the replies to every single member of the board, for whilst I’m convinced it won’t make a bit of difference I think we would all feel better knowing that they know those amazing, and damning facts.

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Jan 23, 2018 22:31:36 GMT nickchippenhamgas said:

This is probably the best thread I’ve ever read on either forums, what now needs to be done is some IT savvy guy or girl needs to send off the OP stats along with all the replies to every single member of the board, for whilst I’m convinced it won’t make a bit of difference I think we would all feel better knowing that they know those amazing, and damning facts.

I think they will have already read them.

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Jan 23, 2018 22:29:49 GMT @russianrebel said:

Jan 23, 2018 22:18:22 GMT @bambergasgroin said:

Don't be like that about Tom.

Have a word with him, either at the Valentines Dinner or on the evening of the shirt sponsors' draw, I'm sure he'll explain all the things that are changing and how he'll soon have the club rolling in dosh

Perhaps you should suggest an event that is actually taking place Bamber. 🤔🤔

I have no idea what you are talking about.

But looking at the BRFC official site, I can't see details of either event there. Bit odd?

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Another interesting one is post-1988 when Scunthorpe moved into the first purpose built stadium for 33 years only Brentford, QPR, Grimsby Town and Bristol Rovers have seen no significant development to their grounds. Brentford have planning permission for a new stadium.

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Jan 23, 2018 22:31:03 GMT @blueiris said:

The history of investment and management is poor.
However its too soon imo to judge the new owners.
I for one will be giving them a chance to take the club forward after the UWE setback.
They took over a club already years behind most clubs.

We're further behind than we were 2 years ago.

Nothing has been stopping them cracking on with the (Cat 2 Academy) training ground apart from:

- Reality hitting
- It's not being scaled back because it's better to do it phases.
- these things take time

Seriously?

All this is nothing to do with me - I signed Rickie Lambert.

Deleted Joined: January 1970 Posts: 0	A Lack of Investment Jan 23, 2018 23:05:23 GMT via mobile kingswood Polak likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 23:05:23 GMT Whisper it, but I think we may have the most under developed and funded piece of professional sporting real estate in the UK.

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