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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 21:53:31 GMT
Well it really comes about because i work with several somalian guys who love football but never watch matches live and certainly not at rovers or city games. ...then begs the question, why not invite them along? Just once? Lead by example, and you would've answered your own question! But don't go for pre match swills would be my advice.. I know your being dismissive but im thinking of an organised attempt by our club to appeal to minorities or make it more attractive from there point of view.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jul 23, 2017 21:53:35 GMT
How do we know there aren't plenty of people of faith attending the mem already?!
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Post by laughinggas on Jul 24, 2017 6:14:38 GMT
How do we know there aren't plenty of people of faith attending the mem already?! Thought we all had faith Dude.
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 24, 2017 7:36:51 GMT
...then begs the question, why not invite them along? Just once? Lead by example, and you would've answered your own question! But don't go for pre match swills would be my advice.. I know your being dismissive but im thinking of an organised attempt by our club to appeal to minorities or make it more attractive from there point of view. Hope this thread doesn't get hijacked, because I know what you are trying to say and it's an important point. Ethnic minorities are often underrepresented in football crowds. Some kind of 'everyone welcome' campaign, visits to schools in e.g. Easton might help knock down a few barriers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 10:32:08 GMT
I know your being dismissive but im thinking of an organised attempt by our club to appeal to minorities or make it more attractive from there point of view. Hope this thread doesn't get hijacked, because I know what you are trying to say and it's an important point. Ethnic minorities are often underrepresented in football crowds. Some kind of 'everyone welcome' campaign, visits to schools in e.g. Easton might help knock down a few barriers. I think bradford have had some success on this front and with our geographical position at our current ground at least you would think there is potential in this area.
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Post by basel on Jul 24, 2017 10:37:38 GMT
Difficult subject and not sure how to word the thread title but there is a huge untapped potential for increased and even a more diverse fan base. Trouble is people I work with don't seem comfortable with the idea of actually going to games although it must be said they follow arsenal and Chelsea with great interest on tv. Is it possible to change this for Bristol rovers and maybe football in general or am I being naïve? The Easton football fans,Muslim or not are very attached to their Premier teams.They happily chat about these giants,but the chances are they won't know it's Rovers at the 'top of the hill'.The Poles count every penny,the expense of watching third tier football will put many off,just as it does Brits.Muslims much the same. Rovers would have to get into the area,a sustained and regular meet.At schools , Mosques,Scout groups eg.Ask permission from parents,teachers and Imans to get a bus organised,to take the kids and adults up to a game now and again.Regularly hopefully. The image of third tier does not sit well with the majority of these people (just like many Brits,it's not their idea of self- identity) and so Rovers have to get amongst the area and make them see better.Show them what a great club the local one is.Their club.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jul 24, 2017 11:48:10 GMT
You can say the same for Sikhs, Hindus, Pagans, Satanists and Scientologists. I'm not a fan of pigeon holing folk.. Bath City tried to bring in extra support by special offers to select groups, all very well but the regular crowd (can justifiably?) feel they are being discriminating by being loyal. We tried it last season with special offer to services personnel. I'm not sure how much extra was brought in? There are only two select group that deserve encouraging imo, kids and rovers fans. Loyalty should be rewarded, kids should be encouraged with special offers, whatever their faith.. You don't have to pigeonhole people because we people make a pretty good job of pigeonholing ourselves. Take football fans, for example. On second thoughts...
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Post by Thatslife on Jul 24, 2017 12:38:29 GMT
How do we know there aren't plenty of people of faith attending the mem already?! Thought we all had faith Dude. Faith is belief without proof, just about sums up a Gashead in my opinion
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 20:12:08 GMT
Jesus Christ. Okay I shall bite just a little. BRFC really need to attract a larger, broader, more diverse support. This means age, gender, colour, origin, culture, and (I accept) religion. However, I can see more hope and I can get a lot more interested in more mixed age, gender, colour, origin, and culture. I can happily declare my prejudices: I like Jews but I dislike Judaism, I like Christians but I dislike Christianity, and I like Muslims but I dislike Islam. I am all for trying to attract diversity of religion. I just prefer diversity of age, gender, colour, origin, and culture. And I suspect selling BRFC to Muslims is harder. It must be easier to sell BRFC to those members of society who like a beer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 21:43:44 GMT
What a super thread.
So far we have someone who has no idea how many members of any given faith attend any given event but he wants to attract more, but only seems interested in directing efforts towards one faith (can't wait to see him going down the road looking for people who look like they may be Muslims so that he can invite them along), we have someone who seems to be suggesting that there's a distinction between being British and being Muslim, and we have a mild-to-moderate slur against Poles.
Can't think why the 'Serious Stuff' section got shut down.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 22:02:30 GMT
What a super thread. So far we have someone who has no idea how many members of any given faith attend any given event but he wants to attract more, but only seems interested in directing efforts towards one faith (can't wait to see him going down the road looking for people who look like they may be Muslims so that he can invite them along), we have someone who seems to be suggesting that there's a distinction between being British and being Muslim, and we have a mild-to-moderate slur against Poles. Can't think why the 'Serious Stuff' section got shut down. There may well be lots of white british looking muslims going to matches but i doubt it. Its very noticeable to me when im at a football match how there is virtually no ethnic diversity compared to say a trip to the mall or at my work place. Maybe saying "muslims" wasnt the correct term but what im trying to get at is there is massive potential to increase our support and revenue in this area.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 22:08:34 GMT
What a super thread. So far we have someone who has no idea how many members of any given faith attend any given event but he wants to attract more, but only seems interested in directing efforts towards one faith (can't wait to see him going down the road looking for people who look like they may be Muslims so that he can invite them along), we have someone who seems to be suggesting that there's a distinction between being British and being Muslim, and we have a mild-to-moderate slur against Poles. Can't think why the 'Serious Stuff' section got shut down. There may well be lots of white british looking muslims going to matches but i doubt it. Its very noticeable to me when im at a football match how there is virtually no ethnic diversity compared to say a trip to the mall or at my work place. Maybe saying "muslims" wasnt the correct term but what im trying to get at is there is massive potential to increase our support and revenue in this area. Priceless. So what does a ''British'' person look like? This forum goes from strength to strength.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jul 24, 2017 22:30:45 GMT
If folk don't want to be at the mem on a Saturday afternoon/Tuesday night that's their call. I highly doubt it's because they are Muslim/Sikh/Hindu/whatever etc...specifically.
More due to the fact that the majority of the last 15 years, we've been total sh1te.
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Post by thecuregalore94 on Jul 25, 2017 0:33:02 GMT
I see absolutely no harm in branching out to anyone of any background or walk of life to experience Rovers. The idea is commendable and in a time of some political unrest post-Brexit I think football can be a powerful way to create a community spirit and social cohesion. I would gladly see gates increased as a result of spreading the word or offering deals to anyone who may be identified as an untapped market - the problem is how to go about it. One can't realistically go from mosque to mosque asking for local support, much as one can't go door to door to local residences like an MP with a by-election campaign.
What it boils down to is this: unless it's family upbringing, people will follow their local team almost exclusively by their own choice. If not, they will likely choose a Premiership club they follow on TV. Disappointing as it may be to some of us who've clocked up a respectable tally of home and away appearances, that is the way football works. All you can do is offer colleagues, friends, locals at the pub etc if they fancy coming along to your next game. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 0:47:29 GMT
There may well be lots of white british looking muslims going to matches but i doubt it. Its very noticeable to me when im at a football match how there is virtually no ethnic diversity compared to say a trip to the mall or at my work place. Maybe saying "muslims" wasnt the correct term but what im trying to get at is there is massive potential to increase our support and revenue in this area. Priceless. So what does a ''British'' person look like? This forum goes from strength to strength. Your misquoting me as it clearly says "white british looking" Your smugly superior attitude does you no favours to be honest,i think you know exactly what I was trying to say in my op and I firmly believe there is value in it. do you always talk down to people? or is it just a forum thing? or maybe its just to the many inferior humans you come across?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 0:49:00 GMT
If folk don't want to be at the mem on a Saturday afternoon/Tuesday night that's their call. I highly doubt it's because they are Muslim/Sikh/Hindu/whatever etc...specifically. More due to the fact that the majority of the last 15 years, we've been total sh1te. Its not that though is it?
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 25, 2017 8:16:24 GMT
What a super thread. So far we have someone who has no idea how many members of any given faith attend any given event but he wants to attract more, but only seems interested in directing efforts towards one faith (can't wait to see him going down the road looking for people who look like they may be Muslims so that he can invite them along), we have someone who seems to be suggesting that there's a distinction between being British and being Muslim, and we have a mild-to-moderate slur against Poles. Can't think why the 'Serious Stuff' section got shut down. There may well be lots of white british looking muslims going to matches but i doubt it. Its very noticeable to me when im at a football match how there is virtually no ethnic diversity compared to say a trip to the mall or at my work place. Maybe saying "muslims" wasnt the correct term but what im trying to get at is there is massive potential to increase our support and revenue in this area. With an average gate of less than 10,000 in a catchment area of what 1m you are right to say there is massive potential. You're wrong to bring race and religion in to the argument though to satisfy your latent PC racism.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jul 25, 2017 9:06:46 GMT
If folk don't want to be at the mem on a Saturday afternoon/Tuesday night that's their call. I highly doubt it's because they are Muslim/Sikh/Hindu/whatever etc...specifically. More due to the fact that the majority of the last 15 years, we've been total sh1te. Its not that though is it? For the magical 30,000 that show up whenever we get to Wembley/Millennium, sure it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 9:39:46 GMT
Priceless. So what does a ''British'' person look like? This forum goes from strength to strength. Your misquoting me as it clearly says "white british looking" Your smugly superior attitude does you no favours to be honest,i think you know exactly what I was trying to say in my op and I firmly believe there is value in it. do you always talk down to people? or is it just a forum thing? or maybe its just to the many inferior humans you come across?
So, what does a white British person look like, somehow different to, say someone from America, or Norway? I'm beginning to wonder if, in your mind, people are separated into different groups? Here you go, read this, it's about the most concise piece I could find on the subject, despite what the racists and xenophobes would have you believe, we are all the same, honest, discovermagazine.com/2017/janfeb/16-we-are-all-africansMe, superior? Honestly, that's not the case, I'm an intellectual pygmy, there are some very smart and insightful people out there. Rather than resort to ad hominem attacks why not put forward a reasoned argument, then we can discuss it But rather than guess at how many people from one faith group may attend a game, and then pull a target number out of the air without explaining how that relates to the demographic of our existing fan base, maybe you should give it a bit more thought, speak to other clubs, community groups etc who will already have looked at similar stuff and let us know what you find out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 9:52:07 GMT
I know of at least one white Muslim watching the gas or are we on about different coloured Muslims?
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