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Byron Anthony
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Post by faggotygas on May 5, 2017 13:25:39 GMT
All i hear is things like "we arnt ready for the championship" "We are in our natural position in league 1 [division 3]" "Evolution not revolution" " if we dont offer a decent budget to dc then so be it,the club were here before him and will be after he goes" blah blah blah blah I think most rovers fans have settled for league 1 to be honest,i mean we cannot be beaten by city as long as we stay a league below them right? " in wael we trust" Humbug i say bloody humbug We should be demanding our owner gives the manager a top 6 budget right now,after all people will soon be screaming blue murder when were 21st in the league under marcus stewart or chris hargreaves in december next season. The only way we could stay in the Championship long term would be to start earning a lot more money - and I'd love to see your case of how we do that - or somehow become the toy of a billionaire.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 16:09:48 GMT
Dont you think its a shame that dc has felt the need to plead in public for a decent budget for next season in at least 3 interviews because he feels the team will be unable to keep over achieving without significantly more funding on the playing budget. I take your point in a way but it feels a bit like dc is telling us all "i tried to get more backing fans" Not sure that's how I read what he's been saying, but if it supports your argument, then sure, why not Not trying to support my argument just explaining how the interviews came across to me.
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Post by c13 on May 5, 2017 23:04:12 GMT
If Clubs like Rotherham, Burton and Fleetwood aspire to be Championship clubs then surely Rovers should be making a damned good go to get there too Just because other clubs want to make a jump they can't 100% guarantee they're able to make, we should do the same as well? There's much we need to do before starting to dream too much
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 23:50:28 GMT
If Clubs like Rotherham, Burton and Fleetwood aspire to be Championship clubs then surely Rovers should be making a damned good go to get there too Just because other clubs want to make a jump they can't 100% guarantee they're able to make, we should do the same as well? There's much we need to do before starting to dream too much Mostly we need a new ground but we need to be in a good place on the pitch when the new ground is ready dont you think? Bristol city have a new ground[sort of] and despite a terrible season their average gate is high and on sunday 25,000 people will watch them play,an almost unheard of attendance for a league game in bristol for many years. I think we need to already be in the championship when our new ground is built to be sure to benefit from it.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 6, 2017 6:26:52 GMT
For £16 adult seat and quid a kid, they've helped secure themselves a capacity crowd.
But many will be going for their first time!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 7:17:48 GMT
For £16 adult seat and quid a kid, they've helped secure themselves a capacity crowd. But many will be going for their first time! Fair point but their average gate is nearly 19,000 because of championship football and a new ground.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 6, 2017 7:31:58 GMT
For £16 adult seat and quid a kid, they've helped secure themselves a capacity crowd. But many will be going for their first time! Fair point but their average gate is nearly 19,000 because of championship football and a new ground. That might be the amount of tickets they've sold/given away, but it's not always a reflection of how many truly enter the arena.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 8:25:01 GMT
Fair point but their average gate is nearly 19,000 because of championship football and a new ground. That might be the amount of tickets they've sold/given away, but it's not always a reflection of how many truly enter the arena. But i think thats true of all clubs including ours as season tickets are counted as being there.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 8:34:30 GMT
All i hear is things like "we arnt ready for the championship" "We are in our natural position in league 1 [division 3]" "Evolution not revolution" " if we dont offer a decent budget to dc then so be it,the club were here before him and will be after he goes" blah blah blah blah I think most rovers fans have settled for league 1 to be honest,i mean we cannot be beaten by city as long as we stay a league below them right? " in wael we trust" Humbug i say bloody humbug We should be demanding our owner gives the manager a top 6 budget right now,after all people will soon be screaming blue murder when were 21st in the league under marcus stewart or chris hargreaves in december next season. The only way we could stay in the Championship long term would be to start earning a lot more money - and I'd love to see your case of how we do that - or somehow become the toy of a billionaire. MY case is we strengthen the present team with a little help from our wealthy owner and force our way into the championship and compete like brenford,barnsley and burton have. The revenue just from being in that division makes a struggle to survive there well worthwhile while we build a new ground and everything else we want. The other option is to under fund in league 1 and prepare for a relegation battle.
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Post by Igitur on May 6, 2017 8:56:39 GMT
The only way we could stay in the Championship long term would be to start earning a lot more money - and I'd love to see your case of how we do that - or somehow become the toy of a billionaire. MY case is we strengthen the present team with a little help from our wealthy owner and force our way into the championship and compete like brenford,barnsley and burton have. The revenue just from being in that division makes a struggle to survive there well worthwhile while we build a new ground and everything else we want. The other option is to under fund in league 1 and prepare for a relegation battle. Diane Abbott economics - there is a third way and that is to stay mid-table. Plus there could be the odd flirt with the play offs.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 12:33:31 GMT
The only way we could stay in the Championship long term would be to start earning a lot more money - and I'd love to see your case of how we do that - or somehow become the toy of a billionaire. MY case is we strengthen the present team with a little help from our wealthy owner and force our way into the championship and compete like brenford,barnsley and burton have. The revenue just from being in that division makes a struggle to survive there well worthwhile while we build a new ground and everything else we want. The other option is to under fund in league 1 and prepare for a relegation battle. You are aware of SMCP I presume? I only mention it as you keep posting stuff that gives the dreadful impression that you've never heard of it.
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Byron Anthony
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Post by faggotygas on May 6, 2017 12:45:11 GMT
The only way we could stay in the Championship long term would be to start earning a lot more money - and I'd love to see your case of how we do that - or somehow become the toy of a billionaire. MY case is we strengthen the present team with a little help from our wealthy owner and force our way into the championship and compete like brenford,barnsley and burton have. The revenue just from being in that division makes a struggle to survive there well worthwhile while we build a new ground and everything else we want. The other option is to under fund in league 1 and prepare for a relegation battle. Barnsley's ground has twice the capacity of the mem. Brentford make horrendous losses each year, covered by a rich benefactor. Burton have been amazing, but they are a bit of a freak and can you see them sustaining their position? Yeovil were in the championship not long ago...
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Byron Anthony
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Post by faggotygas on May 6, 2017 12:49:48 GMT
MY case is we strengthen the present team with a little help from our wealthy owner and force our way into the championship and compete like brenford,barnsley and burton have. The revenue just from being in that division makes a struggle to survive there well worthwhile while we build a new ground and everything else we want. The other option is to under fund in league 1 and prepare for a relegation battle. Diane Abbott economics - there is a third way and that is to stay mid-table. Plus there could be the odd flirt with the play offs. Whilst investing for the future
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 13:48:53 GMT
MY case is we strengthen the present team with a little help from our wealthy owner and force our way into the championship and compete like brenford,barnsley and burton have. The revenue just from being in that division makes a struggle to survive there well worthwhile while we build a new ground and everything else we want. The other option is to under fund in league 1 and prepare for a relegation battle. Diane Abbott economics - there is a third way and that is to stay mid-table. Plus there could be the odd flirt with the play offs. Yes of course if we can get the right replacement manager in with a good eye for bargains and loans we may perhaps succeed in staying where we are now.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 13:51:45 GMT
MY case is we strengthen the present team with a little help from our wealthy owner and force our way into the championship and compete like brenford,barnsley and burton have. The revenue just from being in that division makes a struggle to survive there well worthwhile while we build a new ground and everything else we want. The other option is to under fund in league 1 and prepare for a relegation battle. You are aware of SMCP I presume? I only mention it as you keep posting stuff that gives the dreadful impression that you've never heard of it. God i forgot what a smug and superior smart ass you are. Pray tell me what it is oh intellectually superior one?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 13:55:31 GMT
MY case is we strengthen the present team with a little help from our wealthy owner and force our way into the championship and compete like brenford,barnsley and burton have. The revenue just from being in that division makes a struggle to survive there well worthwhile while we build a new ground and everything else we want. The other option is to under fund in league 1 and prepare for a relegation battle. Barnsley's ground has twice the capacity of the mem. Brentford make horrendous losses each year, covered by a rich benefactor. Burton have been amazing, but they are a bit of a freak and can you see them sustaining their position? Yeovil were in the championship not long ago... Yeovil had no money but still spent. If we used the burton model even relegation wouldnt have to hurt us as a club. If we try to tread water while we wait for the ground etc i see trouble just around the corner but others dont agree so hey ho
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Post by droitwichgas on May 6, 2017 14:44:59 GMT
Barnsley's ground has twice the capacity of the mem. Brentford make horrendous losses each year, covered by a rich benefactor. Burton have been amazing, but they are a bit of a freak and can you see them sustaining their position? Yeovil were in the championship not long ago... Yeovil had no money but still spent. If we used the burton model even relegation wouldnt have to hurt us as a club. If we try to tread water while we wait for the ground etc i see trouble just around the corner but others dont agree so hey ho Perhaps that's because we're not all manic depressive, everything you post on both forums is always doom & gloom, until we see what players DC brings in we're no idea what budget he's been given to work with. If he can bring similar quality players to what he brought in during January then there's no reason why we can mount a Play Off/promotion push next season.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 15:16:19 GMT
You are aware of SMCP I presume? I only mention it as you keep posting stuff that gives the dreadful impression that you've never heard of it. God i forgot what a smug and superior smart ass you are. Pray tell me what it is oh intellectually superior one? Oh dear, you forgot about it But seriously, spend a bit of time looking at income sources for 2nd tier clubs, it's not all about gate receipts or hand outs from owners.
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Byron Anthony
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Post by faggotygas on May 6, 2017 15:17:15 GMT
Barnsley's ground has twice the capacity of the mem. Brentford make horrendous losses each year, covered by a rich benefactor. Burton have been amazing, but they are a bit of a freak and can you see them sustaining their position? Yeovil were in the championship not long ago... Yeovil had no money but still spent. If we used the burton model even relegation wouldnt have to hurt us as a club. If we try to tread water while we wait for the ground etc i see trouble just around the corner but others dont agree so hey ho We would be in a similar situation to Yeovil without a bigger ground, we would have to overspend to stay in the Championship and so have no money to spend on developing the club. Look, I am others are suggesting that we spend money in line with our income, and that any extra is invested in developing the club. You are suggesting boom & bust.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 15:21:45 GMT
Yeovil had no money but still spent. If we used the burton model even relegation wouldnt have to hurt us as a club. If we try to tread water while we wait for the ground etc i see trouble just around the corner but others dont agree so hey ho We would be in a similar situation to Yeovil without a bigger ground, we would have to overspend to stay in the Championship and so have no money to spend on developing the club. Look, I am others are suggesting that we spend money in line with our income, and that any extra is invested in developing the club. You are suggesting boom & bust. Or what we spent 10 years doing, bust and bust some more. Just spending seldom works, unless you get lucky or have massive sums that you are willing to chuck at it. Someone said a few days back that Chelsea has swallowed a billion quid so far, and counting.
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