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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 0:02:29 GMT
All i hear is things like "we arnt ready for the championship"
"We are in our natural position in league 1 [division 3]"
"Evolution not revolution"
" if we dont offer a decent budget to dc then so be it,the club were here before him and will be after he goes"
blah blah blah blah
I think most rovers fans have settled for league 1 to be honest,i mean we cannot be beaten by city as long as we stay a league below them right?
" in wael we trust"
Humbug i say bloody humbug
We should be demanding our owner gives the manager a top 6 budget right now,after all people will soon be screaming blue murder when were 21st in the league under marcus stewart or chris hargreaves in december next season.
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Post by thecuregalore94 on May 4, 2017 0:28:39 GMT
All this talk of 'demanding' actions of our owner. All this impatient humbuggery that our owners have the sheer audacity to put foundations down to strengthen the side and facilities carefully and steadily as a long-term project. In how many seasons shall we demand European football is delivered to keep you happy?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 6:45:56 GMT
Dear Mr Blue Sky,
I know you love to be provocative.
But can you not remember how awful it was before?
Now we have an exciting and ambitious manager.
He has take us from low fourth division to high third division.
Do not underestimate the importance of this.
The bottom of the fourth is miserable and dire.
There we could have rotted, ceased, or become non-league.
The top of the third is entertaining and exciting.
From here we can grow, build, and develop.
I appreciate your impatience.
Especially when we remain a division below Bristol Sport 1982.
But the gap is reducing.
Rovers are in the ascent.
We are not Yeovil.
For as long as league position and average attendance are both on an upward trajectory, and the owners demonstrate commitment to development, and the football is exciting; you might have to forgive a lot of gasheads on here for their happiness, patience, and optimism.
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Post by a more piratey game on May 4, 2017 7:25:07 GMT
All i hear is things like "we arnt ready for the championship" "We are in our natural position in league 1 [division 3]" "Evolution not revolution" " if we dont offer a decent budget to dc then so be it,the club were here before him and will be after he goes" blah blah blah blah I think most rovers fans have settled for league 1 to be honest,i mean we cannot be beaten by city as long as we stay a league below them right? " in wael we trust" Humbug i say bloody humbug We should be demanding our owner gives the manager a top 6 budget right now,after all people will soon be screaming blue murder when were 21st in the league under marcus stewart or chris hargreaves in december next season. Am I alone in discerning something of a 'Katie Hopkins' there? |
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Post by Igitur on May 4, 2017 8:10:30 GMT
For sure, I was one of those to have had a target of a mid-table place in L1 as the state of the club really really worried me and I thought, under Higgs, we were going bust in some form or other - and that was not that long ago. I did not believe that we were play-off contenders with the squad we started with, and still believed so to the end of the season. Even if we had got 6th, then like Millwall we would struggle to get promotion, though the TV money would have been useful.
But then I became a bit more ambivalent as we are going to have a clear out, no matter what position we ended, and bring in better players and we maybe could have held our own in the Champs.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 9:48:34 GMT
Dear Mr Blue Sky, I know you love to be provocative. But can you not remember how awful it was before? Now we have an exciting and ambitious manager. He has take us from low fourth division to high third division. Do not underestimate the importance of this. The bottom of the fourth is miserable and dire. There we could have rotted, ceased, or become non-league. The top of the third is entertaining and exciting. From here we can grow, build, and develop. I appreciate your impatience. Especially when we remain a division below Bristol Sport 1982. But the gap is reducing. Rovers are in the ascent. We are not Yeovil. For as long as league position and average attendance are both on an upward trajectory, and the owners demonstrate commitment to development, and the football is exciting; you might have to forgive a lot of gasheads on here for their happiness, patience, and optimism. Your probably right about everything you put but im worried that next season will be a bloody disaster with us struggling and our manager long gone onto to better things. Hope im wrong though. |
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Post by fanatical on May 4, 2017 10:01:06 GMT
If the average pay of a championship player is £7000 per week we will need the income at the new stadium to manage that.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 10:40:36 GMT
For sure, I was one of those to have had a target of a mid-table place in L1 as the state of the club really really worried me and I thought, under Higgs, we were going bust in some form or other - and that was not that long ago. I did not believe that we were play-off contenders with the squad we started with, and still believed so to the end of the season. Even if we had got 6th, then like Millwall we would struggle to get promotion, though the TV money would have been useful. But then I became a bit more ambivalent as we are going to have a clear out, no matter what position we ended, and bring in better players and we maybe could have held our own in the Champs. I believe it will be just as difficult to build a new team in league 1 as it would have been in the championship bearing in mind the incoming higher revenue in the 2nd tier. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 10:43:01 GMT
If the average pay of a championship player is £7000 per week we will need the income at the new stadium to manage that. But obviously some clubs are paying well below that and holding their own ie.brentford,barnsley,preston and burton? |
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Post by c13 on May 4, 2017 10:45:17 GMT
But we ARE in our natural position. Right now, at least, we are. It's mental to argue otherwise.
There's many things we need before starting to bang on about Championship; we need a stadium, we need better youth intake and our young'ins to be actual prospects and not squad rotation material, we need to establish ourselves as a regular club and not a two-season wonder... all these things are being addresed by both Wael and DC, and they will not come overnight.
Again: evolution, not revolution. Blind "patriotism" won't lead us anywhere, we need a plan and it has been in motion for some time.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 10:48:10 GMT
Dear Mr Blue Sky, I know you love to be provocative. But can you not remember how awful it was before? Now we have an exciting and ambitious manager. He has take us from low fourth division to high third division. Do not underestimate the importance of this. The bottom of the fourth is miserable and dire. There we could have rotted, ceased, or become non-league. The top of the third is entertaining and exciting. From here we can grow, build, and develop. I appreciate your impatience. Especially when we remain a division below Bristol Sport 1982. But the gap is reducing. Rovers are in the ascent. We are not Yeovil. For as long as league position and average attendance are both on an upward trajectory, and the owners demonstrate commitment to development, and the football is exciting; you might have to forgive a lot of gasheads on here for their happiness, patience, and optimism. Your probably right about everything you put but im worried that next season will be a bloody disaster with us struggling and our manager long gone onto to better things. Hope im wrong though. That's the spirit. I suppose it helps to pass the time, all that worrying. Life might border on fun without it, and that would never do. No offence, and genuine advice, but maybe just power down until August rather than embarking on three months of this groundless hand-wringing bollox. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 12:35:41 GMT
If the average pay of a championship player is £7000 per week we will need the income at the new stadium to manage that. Including TV money but excluding gate receipts and excluding their PL parachute money, Villa got £6.8m for the privilege of being in the 2nd tier this season. You can see how, with careful management, clubs like Burton can survive. |
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Post by irishrover on May 4, 2017 12:54:42 GMT
I regularly wake up in a cold sweat 'Molineaux, Carrow Road, Pride Park, Neil Warnock, cliche's about hardest league in the world, George Gavin......AAARGH!!!'
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 4, 2017 17:00:44 GMT
For sure, I was one of those to have had a target of a mid-table place in L1 as the state of the club really really worried me and I thought, under Higgs, we were going bust in some form or other - and that was not that long ago. I did not believe that we were play-off contenders with the squad we started with, and still believed so to the end of the season. Even if we had got 6th, then like Millwall we would struggle to get promotion, though the TV money would have been useful. But then I became a bit more ambivalent as we are going to have a clear out, no matter what position we ended, and bring in better players and we maybe could have held our own in the Champs. Things are always better afterva good clearout, wouldn't you agree |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 22:32:22 GMT
Your probably right about everything you put but im worried that next season will be a bloody disaster with us struggling and our manager long gone onto to better things. Hope im wrong though. That's the spirit. I suppose it helps to pass the time, all that worrying. Life might border on fun without it, and that would never do. No offence, and genuine advice, but maybe just power down until August rather than embarking on three months of this groundless hand-wringing bollox. Yes your so right,just be the normal passive rovers fan,its served us so well in the past to be docile like yourself. No offence |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 22:58:40 GMT
That's the spirit. I suppose it helps to pass the time, all that worrying. Life might border on fun without it, and that would never do. No offence, and genuine advice, but maybe just power down until August rather than embarking on three months of this groundless hand-wringing bollox. Yes your so right,just be the normal passive rovers fan,its served us so well in the past to be docile like yourself. No offence Can you tell me what the new owners have said they will do and have not delivered please? This summer is important, we all know that, the manager has made it perfectly clear for months that he needs better players in certain areas, he's talked almost non-stop all season about having a 'top 6 team', that costs money, Wael isn't daft, he knows what the manager wants and he knows that Darrel could walk out the door and have clubs falling over themselves to employ him. Let's leave the owners and manager to do what they do and judge them by results when the new season is getting close. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 23:08:40 GMT
Yes your so right,just be the normal passive rovers fan,its served us so well in the past to be docile like yourself. No offence Can you tell me what the new owners have said they will do and have not delivered please? This summer is important, we all know that, the manager has made it perfectly clear for months that he needs better players in certain areas, he's talked almost non-stop all season about having a 'top 6 team', that costs money, Wael isn't daft, he knows what the manager wants and he knows that Darrel could walk out the door and have clubs falling over themselves to employ him. Let's leave the owners and manager to do what they do and judge them by results when the new season is getting close. Dont you think its a shame that dc has felt the need to plead in public for a decent budget for next season in at least 3 interviews because he feels the team will be unable to keep over achieving without significantly more funding on the playing budget. I take your point in a way but it feels a bit like dc is telling us all "i tried to get more backing fans" |
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Post by Peter Parker on May 5, 2017 5:39:29 GMT
Can you tell me what the new owners have said they will do and have not delivered please? This summer is important, we all know that, the manager has made it perfectly clear for months that he needs better players in certain areas, he's talked almost non-stop all season about having a 'top 6 team', that costs money, Wael isn't daft, he knows what the manager wants and he knows that Darrel could walk out the door and have clubs falling over themselves to employ him. Let's leave the owners and manager to do what they do and judge them by results when the new season is getting close. Dont you think its a shame that dc has felt the need to plead in public for a decent budget for next season in at least 3 interviews because he feels the team will be unable to keep over achieving without significantly more funding on the playing budget. I take your point in a way but it feels a bit like dc is telling us all "i tried to get more backing fans" Has DC been pleading? I think he has just said to move on further we need a bit more as its tougher. He is a manager. I dont know of many managers who dont talk about wanting more |
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Post by harrybuckle on May 5, 2017 8:23:44 GMT
If Clubs like Rotherham, Burton and Fleetwood aspire to be Championship clubs then surely Rovers should be making a damned good go to get there too
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 9:48:28 GMT
Can you tell me what the new owners have said they will do and have not delivered please? This summer is important, we all know that, the manager has made it perfectly clear for months that he needs better players in certain areas, he's talked almost non-stop all season about having a 'top 6 team', that costs money, Wael isn't daft, he knows what the manager wants and he knows that Darrel could walk out the door and have clubs falling over themselves to employ him. Let's leave the owners and manager to do what they do and judge them by results when the new season is getting close. Dont you think its a shame that dc has felt the need to plead in public for a decent budget for next season in at least 3 interviews because he feels the team will be unable to keep over achieving without significantly more funding on the playing budget. I take your point in a way but it feels a bit like dc is telling us all "i tried to get more backing fans" Not sure that's how I read what he's been saying, but if it supports your argument, then sure, why not  |
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