harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 27, 2016 13:19:49 GMT
Yesterday's Boxing Day atendance of 11,200 was our best attendance at home for 43 years. Boxing Day 1973 (our Third Division promotion season Smash & Grab etc) drew 22,353 against Plymouth Argyle. Rovers won 4-2.
Our previous best at the Mem was Millwall Boxing Day 1999 which attracted 10,077 gasheads.
Potential of our support shows just why a larger new stadium is required.
Four fellow League One Clubs drew larger gates than Rovers yesterday Bolton 16,238, Bradford City 21,874,Oxford Utd 11,790 & Sheffield Utd 25,821.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 27, 2016 13:47:16 GMT
Four fellow League One Clubs drew larger gates than Rovers yesterday Bolton 16,238, Bradford City 21,874,Oxford Utd 11,790 & Sheffield Utd 25,821.
Also, Plymouth had a 12,000 attendance too. Fans are starting to turn up at Mem. Long may it continue..
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 27, 2016 18:06:17 GMT
November was a bit of a blip. Lest we not forget - it is a remarkable time to be a Gashead. We are seeing remarkable crowds, Home and Away.
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Post by The Gas on Dec 28, 2016 0:20:15 GMT
But it was the lowest home crowd against Coventry since the 2nd World War:-
21/02/1953 28,614 13/04/1963 13,145 04/04/1964 12,006 26/12/2016 11,200
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 0:27:04 GMT
But it was the lowest home crowd against Coventry since the 2nd World War:- 21/02/1953 28,614 13/04/1963 13,145 04/04/1964 12,006 26/12/2016 11,200 Ha!
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Post by Gas Since 1957 on Dec 28, 2016 9:19:38 GMT
But it was the lowest home crowd against Coventry since the 2nd World War:- 21/02/1953 28,614 13/04/1963 13,145 04/04/1964 12,006 26/12/2016 11,200 And here's the point - the previous crowds were at a stadium which, at the time, has a capacity around 35,000. We'll never know for sure, but if we had a 20,000 capacity stadium, it would have been close to capacity on Boxing Day in my opinion.
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 28, 2016 9:23:51 GMT
But it was the lowest home crowd against Coventry since the 2nd World War:- 21/02/1953 28,614 13/04/1963 13,145 04/04/1964 12,006 26/12/2016 11,200 And here's the point - the previous crowds were at a stadium which, at the time, has a capacity around 35,000. We'll never know for sure, but if we had a 20,000 capacity stadium, it would have been close to capacity on Boxing Day in my opinion. Build it and they will come-Field of Dreams
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 9:48:59 GMT
I would like to see some Gas Macc type analysis of Rovers attendances,however I think that it would be quite difficult comparing crowds in different eras and different stadiums. You could interpret the OP differently and say 'Rovers Boxing day crowd only 50% of the attendace of 43 years ago', probably nearly half of the people at the Plymouth game are dead by now anyway. The crowd these days (and not just at Rovers) seems to be much older than in the 60s and 70s when lots of the baby boomers were going to matches as youngsters. I know younger blokes at work who only watch football on TV and they would never go to watch Rovers or city. We went out on Christmas Eve and 2 of them were talking about going to Man Utd ( one of them goes with his mate sometimes as his mate has corporate seats) the other one (says he is a Man Utd fan,been to OT once) said he would love to go in a box there as 'you can go in hours before the game and take your Play Station with you'! not saying these blokes are typical but I wouldnt be surprised if they are. I know that people say that all this new housing being built will bring in more supporters but I doubt that for many reasons. Sorry its a long post but its a subject that interests me.
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Post by Igitur on Dec 28, 2016 10:27:31 GMT
Mark Twain, along with others, made, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics" famous and comparing attendances at Eastville with The Mem is tricky. But I did not hear there were thousands more wanting tickets for Coventry.
I'm sure basking in the 11 000 (which is great) covers up the figures at Christmas and New Year when we were in the Conference.
The idea of "build it and people will come" is a fallacy, there is no doubt there are a goodly number of loyal Gasheads, but unless there is success on the pitch the new stadium will be half empty at best. There is a great buzz around the club now with the new owners, DC and two successive promotions and people are returning, or coming for the first time which is good, but the evolution has to continue.
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Post by GasMacc1 on Dec 28, 2016 10:34:01 GMT
I would like to see some Gas Macc type analysis of Rovers attendances,however I think that it would be quite difficult comparing crowds in different eras and different stadiums. You could interpret the OP differently and say 'Rovers Boxing day crowd only 50% of the attendace of 43 years ago', probably nearly half of the people at the Plymouth game are dead by now anyway. The crowd these days (and not just at Rovers) seems to be much older than in the 60s and 70s when lots of the baby boomers were going to matches as youngsters. I know younger blokes at work who only watch football on TV and they would never go to watch Rovers or city. We went out on Christmas Eve and 2 of them were talking about going to Man Utd ( one of them goes with his mate sometimes as his mate has corporate seats) the other one (says he is a Man Utd fan,been to OT once) said he would love to go in a box there as 'you can go in hours before the game and take your Play Station with you'! not saying these blokes are typical but I wouldnt be surprised if they are. I know that people say that all this new housing being built will bring in more supporters but I doubt that for many reasons. Sorry its a long post but its a subject that interests me. I'll give it some thought! In the meantime, here's a quote from an interesting 2013 article from "When Saturday Comes" on the subject of average crowds. According to the Deloitte 2012 Annual Review of Football Finance, clubs collectively invested around £3 billion in grounds and facilities, including the construction of over 30 new stadiums, over the previous 20 years. After decades of neglect this spending served to drive up attendances – the report mentions that Brighton's recent move to Falmer resulted in attendances increasing by 172 per cent, referring to this as the "new stadium effect". Crowds
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Post by a more piratey game on Dec 28, 2016 10:34:14 GMT
My guess is that its a better buzz as the team have had to really graft, and the wins and promotions have been very marginal. That's a lot more exciting than smashing it (i would imagine!), and everyone feels a part of it plus the Wael factor, of course
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 12:45:05 GMT
I would like to see some Gas Macc type analysis of Rovers attendances,however I think that it would be quite difficult comparing crowds in different eras and different stadiums. You could interpret the OP differently and say 'Rovers Boxing day crowd only 50% of the attendace of 43 years ago', probably nearly half of the people at the Plymouth game are dead by now anyway. The crowd these days (and not just at Rovers) seems to be much older than in the 60s and 70s when lots of the baby boomers were going to matches as youngsters. I know younger blokes at work who only watch football on TV and they would never go to watch Rovers or city. We went out on Christmas Eve and 2 of them were talking about going to Man Utd ( one of them goes with his mate sometimes as his mate has corporate seats) the other one (says he is a Man Utd fan,been to OT once) said he would love to go in a box there as 'you can go in hours before the game and take your Play Station with you'! not saying these blokes are typical but I wouldnt be surprised if they are. I know that people say that all this new housing being built will bring in more supporters but I doubt that for many reasons. Sorry its a long post but its a subject that interests me. I'll give it some thought! In the meantime, here's a quote from an interesting 2013 article from "When Saturday Comes" on the subject of average crowds. According to the Deloitte 2012 Annual Review of Football Finance, clubs collectively invested around £3 billion in grounds and facilities, including the construction of over 30 new stadiums, over the previous 20 years. After decades of neglect this spending served to drive up attendances – the report mentions that Brighton's recent move to Falmer resulted in attendances increasing by 172 per cent, referring to this as the "new stadium effect". CrowdsBrighton are an odd one,when they are doing well they get very good crowds,in 77 and 78 in the then 3rd and 2nd divisions they averaged 20,000 and 25,000. Their catchment area seems massive but I think the 172% increase in crowds when they moved to Falmer was mainly because they had low crowds at Withdean due to capacity? I remember when Rovers were at Twerton people were predicting much bigger crowds if they could get back to Bristol,I suppose they are now but I wonder how much latent support there actually is ? very difficult to estimate.
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Post by interceptor on Dec 28, 2016 12:49:55 GMT
I'll give it some thought! In the meantime, here's a quote from an interesting 2013 article from "When Saturday Comes" on the subject of average crowds. According to the Deloitte 2012 Annual Review of Football Finance, clubs collectively invested around £3 billion in grounds and facilities, including the construction of over 30 new stadiums, over the previous 20 years. After decades of neglect this spending served to drive up attendances – the report mentions that Brighton's recent move to Falmer resulted in attendances increasing by 172 per cent, referring to this as the "new stadium effect". CrowdsBrighton are an odd one,when they are doing well they get very good crowds,in 77 and 78 in the then 3rd and 2nd divisions they averaged 20,000 and 25,000. Their catchment area seems massive but I think the 172% increase in crowds when they moved to Falmer was mainly because they had low crowds at Withdean due to capacity? I remember when Rovers were at Twerton people were predicting much bigger crowds if they could get back to Bristol,I suppose they are now but I wonder how much latent support there actually is ? very difficult to estimate. when we were at Twerton I seem to remember the crowd being 3495 no matter how many people attended, bar the Liverpool game where I think more were reported!
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Post by Gas Since 1957 on Dec 28, 2016 16:55:05 GMT
Mark Twain, along with others, made, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics" famous and comparing attendances at Eastville with The Mem is tricky. But I did not hear there were thousands more wanting tickets for Coventry.I'm sure basking in the 11 000 (which is great) covers up the figures at Christmas and New Year when we were in the Conference. The idea of "build it and people will come" is a fallacy, there is no doubt there are a goodly number of loyal Gasheads, but unless there is success on the pitch the new stadium will be half empty at best. There is a great buzz around the club now with the new owners, DC and two successive promotions and people are returning, or coming for the first time which is good, but the evolution has to continue. It wouldn't have been all ticket at a 20,000 stadium, meaning more pay on the day supporters. Whether that would have meant, 13,000, 15,000, 17,000 we'll never know! There was no point people wanting tickets once the game was effectively already sold out, but plenty of people were on Facebook desperate to get their hands on tickets. Success and better stadia bring in larger crowds and the evidence is clear from new grounds built in the last 30 years, Even the sh*t are getting bigger crowds in spite of their current bad form.
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Post by kegandeg on Dec 28, 2016 17:24:56 GMT
Great turnout even if some of them were of the prawn sandwich persuasion hence the slightly subdued atmosphere in my opinion let's hope they liked what they saw and fancy a proper Cornish pasty next time around against the wombles on new year's Eve U.T.G.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Dec 29, 2016 10:22:16 GMT
The home atmosphere has been poor for some time now. Let's not kid ourselves. It takes a goal to get it going & when we concede first it absolutely goes to the dogs. You'll get the occasional quick Irene & some utter s***e about hating C**y & the IRA?
Never seems to be any problem on the road?! The Blackthorn/Thatchers//Filton Bank End need to get back to a slow version of Irene, chorus & verse. 100mph version plus the frequency (every 10mins id wager) has absolutely killed it.
Shame really, I recall Dwarfy Johnson Jnr once claiming that the mem was the most intimidating/hostile atmosphere he had ever played in (Rovers 2 - 2 Yeovil 2004) Comparable with Galatasaray & that's from the sheedhead leader himself.
Let's get back to that.
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Post by laughinggas on Dec 29, 2016 10:47:47 GMT
Turn the music of as the players enter the pitch. Start the intimidating atmosphere from the off.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Dec 29, 2016 11:44:30 GMT
I'd seriously ban for life any Cnut who starts that IRA song, each and every time it's sung.
Sectarian horse crap has never had any place at Rovers, and adds precisely zero to what little atmosphere we have these days.
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Post by blueginger on Dec 29, 2016 13:15:15 GMT
I seem to remember getting stuffed by Wolves at Eastvile one boxing day, late 70's, lost 5 - 1, sure there was more then 11k that day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 13:16:49 GMT
I seem to remember getting stuffed by Wolves at Eastvile one boxing day, late 70's, lost 5 - 1, sure there was more then 11k that day. That was the first one which sprang to mind for me as it was over 20k but it was on the 27th of December 1976.
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