eppinggas
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Post by eppinggas on Jul 19, 2016 10:11:10 GMT
a lot was agent speak and kidology the only championship side who definitely showed any interest that I know of were wigan but they cooled off pretty quickly after preliminary talks with his agent That's quite believeable too, but I see that our old friends at the Bristol Post are reluctant to let the matter fizzle out gracefully. They have reported that he returned to training for the first time today ''since snubbing a whole of host of Championship clubs.'' This could well have been Matty Taylor's agent up until recently, when he ran out of credit on his Pay-As-You-Go mobile . . .
"Since snubbing a whole host of Championship clubs" Suggested edit: "Since being hawked round a a whole host of Championship clubs like a cheap tart without soliciting any offers better than the one already offered by Bristol Rovers"
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 19, 2016 12:41:16 GMT
He seems almost sheepish here or is it just me ? I've watched at least 15 interviews of Matty over the last 2 seasons, some on YouTube and some on Gas player. He doesn't come across any different than usual, it's like most players when put in front of cameras and microphones, they become shy and awkward. Our lads could learn alot from Mildy & Mansell, 2 of the best talkers I've seen in a long time. Thanks for that as I am not one for looking at the clubs videos often and so my perspective was obviously off
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 14:30:00 GMT
He seems almost sheepish here or is it just me ? I've watched at least 15 interviews of Matty over the last 2 seasons, some on YouTube and some on Gas player. He doesn't come across any different than usual, it's like most players when put in front of cameras and microphones, they become shy and awkward. Our lads could learn alot from Mildy & Mansell, 2 of the best talkers I've seen in a long time. I'd rather they concentrated on being better players than doing media classes.
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Post by mangogas15 on Jul 19, 2016 20:58:10 GMT
I've watched at least 15 interviews of Matty over the last 2 seasons, some on YouTube and some on Gas player. He doesn't come across any different than usual, it's like most players when put in front of cameras and microphones, they become shy and awkward. Our lads could learn alot from Mildy & Mansell, 2 of the best talkers I've seen in a long time. I'd rather they concentrated on being better players than doing media classes. Hopefully Rovers have the worst interviewees in league 1 but finish top....😊
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 19, 2016 21:04:58 GMT
well.. they could not be any worse than bloody Wayne Rooney
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Jul 19, 2016 21:33:03 GMT
I've watched at least 15 interviews of Matty over the last 2 seasons, some on YouTube and some on Gas player. He doesn't come across any different than usual, it's like most players when put in front of cameras and microphones, they become shy and awkward. Our lads could learn alot from Mildy & Mansell, 2 of the best talkers I've seen in a long time. Mildy & Mansell are 2 of the best talkers I've seen in a long time. I'd rather they concentrated on being better players than doing media classes. I wasn't meaning it as a dig towards the players, I've been vocal it the past when it comes to media classes and very much against them, they just churn out players talking like robots. I'll reword what i was trying to say ^^
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 7:14:46 GMT
I'd rather they concentrated on being better players than doing media classes. I wasn't meaning it as a dig towards the players, I've been vocal it the past when it comes to media classes and very much against them, they just churn out players talking like robots. I'll reword what i was trying to say ^^ The reason they're being rolled out is to make money for the club through online advertising and to keep the supporters in the loop. Some are going to be more comfortable than others (no real surprise that it's the ones that have been around the professional game for longer and in Stuart Sinclair a bloke that's clearly just bonkers). They'll always be briefed as to what they can and can't say, the last cutting interview I've seen of a player was published the morning we were relegated out of the Football League.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 20, 2016 16:17:12 GMT
I wasn't meaning it as a dig towards the players, I've been vocal it the past when it comes to media classes and very much against them, they just churn out players talking like robots. I'll reword what i was trying to say ^^ The reason they're being rolled out is to make money for the club through online advertising and to keep the supporters in the loop. Some are going to be more comfortable than others (no real surprise that it's the ones that have been around the professional game for longer and in Stuart Sinclair a bloke that's clearly just bonkers). They'll always be briefed as to what they can and can't say, the last cutting interview I've seen of a player was published the morning we were relegated out of the Football League. I actually enjoy the beards interviews as, although he may have been briefed, he just oozes enthusiasm and he really put me in the mind of a springer spaniel ! I just love the guy, his work ethic and what seems to be the most genuine of all. You just know that Stu Sinclair will run himself into collapse. It must be very rewarding to have a guy such as him in the club
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Post by The Concept on Jul 20, 2016 16:40:08 GMT
I've watched at least 15 interviews of Matty over the last 2 seasons, some on YouTube and some on Gas player. He doesn't come across any different than usual, it's like most players when put in front of cameras and microphones, they become shy and awkward. Our lads could learn alot from Mildy & Mansell, 2 of the best talkers I've seen in a long time. I'd rather they concentrated on being better players than doing media classes. I don't know, I think they've all got ample time in their schedules - away from training - for footballers to learn new skills. It's all part of character building, improving confidence, adding new strings to the bow. Whether they like it or not, the media is a big part of sport nowadays, and won't be going away - it's pretty much part and parcel of the job. They also get involved with things such as charity work, hospital visits, meeting the fans, coaching youngsters, and any media training they receive adds to this and aids the other activities too. Sportsmen have a short career and they've got to be thinking about life beyond kicking a football around, and more and more take the path into media. I think any training courses they take will be beneficial to the individuals, and help show the professionalism of the club. It is also useful to get out of the routine, have a few different things to do ... to coin a phrase, " It's not all football, football, football; you know".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 6:24:48 GMT
I'd rather they concentrated on being better players than doing media classes. I don't know, I think they've all got ample time in their schedules - away from training - for footballers to learn new skills. It's all part of character building, improving confidence, adding new strings to the bow. Whether they like it or not, the media is a big part of sport nowadays, and won't be going away - it's pretty much part and parcel of the job. They also get involved with things such as charity work, hospital visits, meeting the fans, coaching youngsters, and any media training they receive adds to this and aids the other activities too. Sportsmen have a short career and they've got to be thinking about life beyond kicking a football around, and more and more take the path into media. I think any training courses they take will be beneficial to the individuals, and help show the professionalism of the club. It is also useful to get out of the routine, have a few different things to do ... to coin a phrase, " It's not all football, football, football; you know". If your work asked you to stay on after work and do a course unpaid would you?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 10:57:18 GMT
its promotional work , part of the job promoting the club
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Post by Foran for England on Jul 21, 2016 11:10:17 GMT
I don't know, I think they've all got ample time in their schedules - away from training - for footballers to learn new skills. It's all part of character building, improving confidence, adding new strings to the bow. Whether they like it or not, the media is a big part of sport nowadays, and won't be going away - it's pretty much part and parcel of the job. They also get involved with things such as charity work, hospital visits, meeting the fans, coaching youngsters, and any media training they receive adds to this and aids the other activities too. Sportsmen have a short career and they've got to be thinking about life beyond kicking a football around, and more and more take the path into media. I think any training courses they take will be beneficial to the individuals, and help show the professionalism of the club. It is also useful to get out of the routine, have a few different things to do ... to coin a phrase, " It's not all football, football, football; you know". If your work asked you to stay on after work and do a course unpaid would you? I wouldn't consider doing it initially, but if someone whose opinion I care about reminded me that it could extend my career by forty years then I hope I would see the bigger picture. Naturally, with that said it shouldn't be at the expense of my club duties.
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 21, 2016 13:10:35 GMT
I don't know, I think they've all got ample time in their schedules - away from training - for footballers to learn new skills. It's all part of character building, improving confidence, adding new strings to the bow. Whether they like it or not, the media is a big part of sport nowadays, and won't be going away - it's pretty much part and parcel of the job. They also get involved with things such as charity work, hospital visits, meeting the fans, coaching youngsters, and any media training they receive adds to this and aids the other activities too. Sportsmen have a short career and they've got to be thinking about life beyond kicking a football around, and more and more take the path into media. I think any training courses they take will be beneficial to the individuals, and help show the professionalism of the club. It is also useful to get out of the routine, have a few different things to do ... to coin a phrase, " It's not all football, football, football; you know". If your work asked you to stay on after work and do a course unpaid would you? If it were also good for me personally, then yes of course, and have done many times.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 13:25:25 GMT
If your work asked you to stay on after work and do a course unpaid would you? If it were also good for me personally, then yes of course, and have done many times.
I know a fair few players past and present have done courses in practical areas, I'm not really sure there's much point in sending Matty Taylor on media training courses though.
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Post by brizzle on Jul 21, 2016 16:37:20 GMT
I could be wide of the mark here, but isn't it part of a professional footballers contract, that they are obliged to do promotional work on behalf of their club?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 16:43:39 GMT
I could be wide of the mark here, but isn't it part of a professional footballers contract, that they are obliged to do promotional work on behalf of their club? Yes, but they're not obliged to do it well
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Post by brizzle on Jul 21, 2016 16:53:55 GMT
I could be wide of the mark here, but isn't it part of a professional footballers contract, that they are obliged to do promotional work on behalf of their club? Yes, but they're not obliged to do it well I suppose the club is hoping that they will emulate their playing performance?
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Post by The Concept on Jul 21, 2016 17:46:28 GMT
I don't know, I think they've all got ample time in their schedules - away from training - for footballers to learn new skills. It's all part of character building, improving confidence, adding new strings to the bow. Whether they like it or not, the media is a big part of sport nowadays, and won't be going away - it's pretty much part and parcel of the job. They also get involved with things such as charity work, hospital visits, meeting the fans, coaching youngsters, and any media training they receive adds to this and aids the other activities too. Sportsmen have a short career and they've got to be thinking about life beyond kicking a football around, and more and more take the path into media. I think any training courses they take will be beneficial to the individuals, and help show the professionalism of the club. It is also useful to get out of the routine, have a few different things to do ... to coin a phrase, " It's not all football, football, football; you know". If your work asked you to stay on after work and do a course unpaid would you? I'm not sure you can compare the two, with the amount of spare time sportsmen and sportswomen have away from the hours spent plying their trade. If my core hours were the same I think I'd be keen to take up any free courses they had on offer. Public speaking is a big issue for many, and any training and experience will help individuals confidence with other activities such as meeting the public and school / hospital / charity visits. What I would say is that no player should be forced to speak in public if they're not comfortable with it, but the training can help. But to answer your question, yes I would and yes I have. - In my first job I took evening classes to study City & Guilds. It was no guarantee of promotion, but you were viewed favourably if you took the exams. Not only did they take up two evenings a week, it also meant having to give up a hobby. After the first year Bath Tech stopped running the course, so I had to travel to Trowbridge straight from work and get home late. - I've also studied for a NVQ through work, which took up a lot of my own time. - Since the early days I've taken 3 different A Level courses, which of course was at my own expense. - In my spare time I've also attended training courses run by organisations from the City Council to the Woodland Trust. Most have been to enable me to carry out voluntary work with local groups, but they also add to my CV and I can apply the skills learned to my permanent job. - I'm now in a job where I know that if I want to further my career I will need to take further qualifications. That would take up a lot of my time, and I have to look at the work/life balance to see what suits me best. But I am in the privileged position that my employers will cover costs. That doesn't apply to everyone - I know of friends who have had to stump up fees for courses such as accountancy and engineering. Many footballers are studying for their Coaching Badges, and then you have others that have paid their way through Degree Courses, such as Mildy and Macca.
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Post by Igitur on Jul 22, 2016 8:06:27 GMT
I don't know, I think they've all got ample time in their schedules - away from training - for footballers to learn new skills. It's all part of character building, improving confidence, adding new strings to the bow. Whether they like it or not, the media is a big part of sport nowadays, and won't be going away - it's pretty much part and parcel of the job. They also get involved with things such as charity work, hospital visits, meeting the fans, coaching youngsters, and any media training they receive adds to this and aids the other activities too. Sportsmen have a short career and they've got to be thinking about life beyond kicking a football around, and more and more take the path into media. I think any training courses they take will be beneficial to the individuals, and help show the professionalism of the club. It is also useful to get out of the routine, have a few different things to do ... to coin a phrase, " It's not all football, football, football; you know". If your work asked you to stay on after work and do a course unpaid would you? Players, apart from pay per game etc, are surely in effect salaried, contracts can't really specify working hours. This is a bit simplistic, but you often hear of players being brought in for extra training. I suppose it's why contract negotiations are so long or players are unable to agree terms (although that's usually money and length.)
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