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Post by harrybuckle on Jun 2, 2016 6:39:21 GMT
I reckon Igitur stands for election I will propose you..just need your name ...hope you are serious about making change happen ? maybe even bulbous should stand too
why would i ?. like everyone else on this thread i commend the sc and all their work Good to hear Bulbous that you commend BSS and the BRSC let him represent you as he is doing a good job
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jun 2, 2016 6:44:55 GMT
I imagine they will be brought up to date with what has been discussed in due course. I can't see what they'd add to this summit, so can't see any good reason for them to tag along. You may not be aware but there has not been a single meeting between the new owners and either of the two Supporters Club Directors. Unfortunately I am not Professor X so do not possess the power to read people's minds. So no, I wasn't aware. RIP the Share Scam if the directors elected from it are not actually involved.
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Post by Teigngas on Jun 2, 2016 7:00:29 GMT
I see that the BRSC Directors were not invited to the BRFC Directors meeting in Jordon.
BRSC Directors Not Invited?
It appears that nothing has changed from the old regime. I imagine they will be brought up to date with what has been discussed in due course. I can't see what they'd add to this summit, so can't see any good reason for them to tag along. I`m with Angas, reading that article I don`t see it as a "directors meeting" as such, just a meeting between the relevant parties involved. Not sure what BRSC directors would bring to the table and why they would be involved.
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Post by lostinspace on Jun 2, 2016 7:51:51 GMT
Page 18. Any news on the G.R.D. jerseys yet? on Barry's desk........."out tray"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 8:44:03 GMT
I imagine they will be brought up to date with what has been discussed in due course. I can't see what they'd add to this summit, so can't see any good reason for them to tag along. You may not be aware but there has not been a single meeting between the new owners and either of the two Supporters Club Directors. I wondered why everything was going so well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 8:48:50 GMT
You may not be aware but there has not been a single meeting between the new owners and either of the two Supporters Club Directors.
Who has Brian met then when he says he has met representatives of the new owners and discussed some issues?
Recently, I met with two representatives of our new owners to offer my suggestions as to how I felt life could improve for you as supporters.
Many of these ideas are very simple. I have been following some of these ideas up.
Shhhh, it doesn't fit with the hidden agenda.
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Post by manchestergas on Jun 2, 2016 10:39:31 GMT
If true they have not meet any of the SS Directors its slightly disappointing, although BSS comments suggests that is not the case.
However, to a degree it shows the Share Scheme is built on sand and for me should be wound up. I contributed initially for three years, but pulled out when the shareholding was diluted, which completely destroyed the main aim of the scheme in the first place with little or no objections from Supporters Club. The money could be channeled to the club in other ways. At present it seems the main function of the scheme is two allow two people to sit in Box 3 (not Box 1).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 10:52:11 GMT
why would i ?. like everyone else on this thread i commend the sc and all their work Good to hear Bulbous that you commend BSS and the BRSC let him represent you as he is doing a good job where have i suggested otherwise ? why are you and padstow trying to drag the running of the sc into the thread ? im here to discuss mr chapell and his thoughts on the board
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Post by Igitur on Jun 2, 2016 11:11:51 GMT
These 'clowns' were elected by members of the BRSC which is not exclusive. BSS is up for election soon, who will stand against him at the next BRSC AGM? Mind you no date has been given for the meeting. I reckon Igitur stands for election I will propose you..just need your name ...hope you are serious about making change happen ? maybe even bulbous should stand too
I've had this thought before and stated it. Because we post on a forum we feel ours is the way forward and we are part of a movement wanting and willing to implement change. But the truth of the matter is that we represent a small percentage of all Rovers fans. BRSC runs comparatively successfully on a sound membership who, on the whole, are happy with things; we have discussed before that the average fan is as loyal as hell, but equally apathetic and there is nothing wrong with that. Many of us can see a need for change in the Supporters' Club, but the majority of fans are not overly bothered. At the Q&A sessions, as we were approaching the real depths or in it, there was little outcry or embarrassing/challenging questions; this was also to be seen in NH's single Q&A session in the Bristol Room, the only dissenting voice got shouted down. That is why NH got away with it for so long, it wasn't just being majority shareholder. The challenge to BSS, or should I say a vote for a new direction, by Rod Chapman back in 2014 came to nothing when the vote came by 314 to 120. As said some real experienced, charismatic, characters spoke at the Welly 3 meeting, but were too disillusioned to get involved again, I hope with our new owner they may change their minds.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 11:18:38 GMT
Who has Brian met then when he says he has met representatives of the new owners and discussed some issues?
Recently, I met with two representatives of our new owners to offer my suggestions as to how I felt life could improve for you as supporters.
Many of these ideas are very simple. I have been following some of these ideas up.
Shhhh, it doesn't fit with the hidden agenda. I'll say the same thing again, the Chairman didn't seem to know anything about either Masters or Seymour-Smith a couple of weeks back. Maybe Harry can explain that? Can you imagine the boardroom table, a suited and booted businessmen who was involved in billion dollar international bank merger and is vice Chairman at Asian Football Development Project, sat next to the former Chief Executive of Wembley Stadium and Finance Director of the Football Association, an International merger and acquisitions lawyer, our new Chairman who in 5 mins flat in my opinion repaired more than 5 years of disastrous PR from the previous board. And Ken Masters who may or may not rock up in a shell suit with a powerpoint presentation. But back in Feb we started with a clean slate. Masters and Seymour-Smith will be given duties commensurate with their perceived abilities. It's up to them to demonstrate what they bring to the party.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jun 2, 2016 12:20:42 GMT
So assuming the SC directors were shunted to box 3 (and ignoring BSS' own words that he has spoken to someone about issues) and haven't spoken to the boss/board
if they were in box 3 what did they actually do, or what are they going to do about it? s there some magical force field around box 1 that stopped them confronting the chairman or WAQ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 12:44:20 GMT
So assuming the SC directors were shunted to box 3 (and ignoring BSS' own words that he has spoken to someone about issues) and haven't spoken to the boss/board if they were in box 3 what did they actually do, or what are they going to do about it? s there some magical force field around box 1 that stopped them confronting the chairman or WAQ? This would seem to be a reasonable observation. I'd go so far as to think it must be almost impossible for them not to have encountered them. Are they waiting for some sort of formal introduction, or are they just a bit shy? How long do they think it's reasonable to wait to be asked to dance? Maybe they should join the Gloucester Road Drinkers: they've managed it.
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Post by harrybuckle on Jun 2, 2016 12:52:20 GMT
Shhhh, it doesn't fit with the hidden agenda. I'll say the same thing again, the Chairman didn't seem to know anything about either Masters or Seymour-Smith a couple of weeks back. Maybe Harry can explain that? Can you imagine the boardroom table, a suited and booted businessmen who was involved in billion dollar international bank merger and is vice Chairman at Asian Football Development Project, sat next to the former Chief Executive of Wembley Stadium and Finance Director of the Football Association, an International merger and acquisitions lawyer, our new Chairman who in 5 mins flat in my opinion repaired more than 5 years of disastrous PR from the previous board. And Ken Masters who may or may not rock up in a shell suit with a powerpoint presentation. But back in Feb we started with a clean slate. Masters and Seymour-Smith will be given duties commensurate with their perceived abilities. It's up to them to demonstrate what they bring to the party. But of course the Chairman knew of the BRSC representatives to the board and their roles representing us 3,500 plus BRSC members interests. In fact the new board have already taken on board our suggestions ...one example being More Rovers historical photos around the stadium of all the various teams over our history. Another example a museum suggested by BRSC will now be incorporated in the design of the new UWE stadium. The new board are receptive to many suggestions and you may well see a Bristol Rovers Womens team and news of a new training base very soon. Happy days indeed
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 12:54:49 GMT
So assuming the SC directors were shunted to box 3 (and ignoring BSS' own words that he has spoken to someone about issues) and haven't spoken to the boss/board if they were in box 3 what did they actually do, or what are they going to do about it? s there some magical force field around box 1 that stopped them confronting the chairman or WAQ? This would seem to be a reasonable observation. I'd go so far as to think it must be almost impossible for them not to have encountered them. Are they waiting for some sort of formal introduction, or are they just a bit shy? How long do they think it's reasonable to wait to be asked to dance? Maybe they should join the Gloucester Road Drinkers: they've managed it. We were told that Wael walked the length of the stand and introduced himself to everyone in all of the boxes at his first game after the takeover.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jun 2, 2016 12:59:58 GMT
I'll say the same thing again, the Chairman didn't seem to know anything about either Masters or Seymour-Smith a couple of weeks back. Maybe Harry can explain that? Can you imagine the boardroom table, a suited and booted businessmen who was involved in billion dollar international bank merger and is vice Chairman at Asian Football Development Project, sat next to the former Chief Executive of Wembley Stadium and Finance Director of the Football Association, an International merger and acquisitions lawyer, our new Chairman who in 5 mins flat in my opinion repaired more than 5 years of disastrous PR from the previous board. And Ken Masters who may or may not rock up in a shell suit with a powerpoint presentation. But back in Feb we started with a clean slate. Masters and Seymour-Smith will be given duties commensurate with their perceived abilities. It's up to them to demonstrate what they bring to the party. But of course the Chairman knew of the BRSC representatives to the board and their roles representing us 3,500 plus BRSC members interests. In fact the new board have already taken on board our suggestions ...one example being More Rovers historical photos around the stadium of all the various teams over our history. Another example a museum suggested by BRSC will now be incorporated in the design of the new UWE stadium. The new board are receptive to many suggestions and you may well see a Bristol Rovers Womens team and news of a new training base very soon. Happy days indeed who has presented these suggestions to the board? Apparently The SC directors haven't had any contact don't you know
Good to know suggestions have been put forward and taken on board
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Post by irishrover on Jun 2, 2016 13:09:54 GMT
But of course the Chairman knew of the BRSC representatives to the board and their roles representing us 3,500 plus BRSC members interests. In fact the new board have already taken on board our suggestions ...one example being More Rovers historical photos around the stadium of all the various teams over our history. Another example a museum suggested by BRSC will now be incorporated in the design of the new UWE stadium. The new board are receptive to many suggestions and you may well see a Bristol Rovers Womens team and news of a new training base very soon. Happy days indeed who has presented these suggestions to the board? Apparently The SC directors haven't had any contact don't you know
Good to know suggestions have been put forward and taken on board
I'm thinking that the real issue here may not be the communication between the board and the SC directors but communication between the SC directors and the fans. Ie. They have not been very clear on these issues - nothing much changes there. The fact is if they are now released to speak their mind as they previously claimed then they need to do so. If not, then they need to kick up a fuss. It's the silence that causes so much confusion and really doesn't do them very many favours. Would it be too much to ask for them to release a basic weekly (or even fortnightly) e-mail/newsletter stating what it is they have done and what it is they are working on? And I don't mean blurb in the programme. I find it strange that a PR man like BSS doesn't do this because it seems like such an easy win.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 13:11:35 GMT
I'll say the same thing again, the Chairman didn't seem to know anything about either Masters or Seymour-Smith a couple of weeks back. Maybe Harry can explain that? Can you imagine the boardroom table, a suited and booted businessmen who was involved in billion dollar international bank merger and is vice Chairman at Asian Football Development Project, sat next to the former Chief Executive of Wembley Stadium and Finance Director of the Football Association, an International merger and acquisitions lawyer, our new Chairman who in 5 mins flat in my opinion repaired more than 5 years of disastrous PR from the previous board. And Ken Masters who may or may not rock up in a shell suit with a powerpoint presentation. But back in Feb we started with a clean slate. Masters and Seymour-Smith will be given duties commensurate with their perceived abilities. It's up to them to demonstrate what they bring to the party. But of course the Chairman knew of the BRSC representatives to the board and their roles representing us 3500 plus BRSC members' interests. In fact the new board have already taken on board our suggestions. One example being, more Rovers' historical photos around the stadium of all the various teams over our history. Another example, a museum suggested by BRSC will now be incorporated in the design of the new UWE stadium. The new board are receptive to many suggestions and you may well see a Bristol Rovers Women's team and news of a new training base very soon. Happy days indeed Are you serious, the SC are responsible for us bailing from the farcical training facilities. You are either having a laugh or are just trying to draw a reaction. Of course there will be a museum of sorts in the new stadium, any 6th former would incorporate that into the design, no need to pay a million quid for people to put that idea to the BoD. And of course we will be looking at a Women's team, Wael will make sure of it, have a little look around Google and find out where Wael was on May 30th, nothing whatsoever to do with Masters or Seymour-Smith.
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Post by vaughan on Jun 2, 2016 13:29:57 GMT
BG - this is one of the best put-downs that I have ever read!! I can not condone it, I can only revel in its brilliant bitterness. Superb effort. *** I'll say the same thing again, the Chairman didn't seem to know anything about either Masters or Seymour-Smith a couple of weeks back. Maybe Harry can explain that? Can you imagine the boardroom table, a suited and booted businessmen who was involved in billion dollar international bank merger and is vice Chairman at Asian Football Development Project, sat next to the former Chief Executive of Wembley Stadium and Finance Director of the Football Association, an International merger and acquisitions lawyer, our new Chairman who in 5 mins flat in my opinion repaired more than 5 years of disastrous PR from the previous board. And Ken Masters who may or may not rock up in a shell suit with a powerpoint presentation. But back in Feb we started with a clean slate. Masters and Seymour-Smith will be given duties commensurate with their perceived abilities. It's up to them to demonstrate what they bring to the party. Read more: gasheads.org/thread/5217/jims-happy-nicks-team-promotion#ixzz4AQcdmjaw
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 14:28:03 GMT
I'll say the same thing again, the Chairman didn't seem to know anything about either Masters or Seymour-Smith a couple of weeks back. Maybe Harry can explain that? Can you imagine the boardroom table, a suited and booted businessmen who was involved in billion dollar international bank merger and is vice Chairman at Asian Football Development Project, sat next to the former Chief Executive of Wembley Stadium and Finance Director of the Football Association, an International merger and acquisitions lawyer, our new Chairman who in 5 mins flat in my opinion repaired more than 5 years of disastrous PR from the previous board. And Ken Masters who may or may not rock up in a shell suit with a powerpoint presentation. But back in Feb we started with a clean slate. Masters and Seymour-Smith will be given duties commensurate with their perceived abilities. It's up to them to demonstrate what they bring to the party. But of course the Chairman knew of the BRSC representatives to the board and their roles representing us 3,500 plus BRSC members interests. In fact the new board have already taken on board our suggestions ...one example being More Rovers historical photos around the stadium of all the various teams over our history. Another example a museum suggested by BRSC will now be incorporated in the design of the new UWE stadium. The new board are receptive to many suggestions and you may well see a Bristol Rovers Womens team and news of a new training base very soon. Happy days indeed So, the smoke signals from those claiming insider knowlege say (but don't show their workings out) that they're either powering ahead as a driving force, or have been completely sidelined. I'm struggling to triangulate that. Maybe the people themselves could stretch to reporting back, so we can dispense with the the rune reading. Irish is right. They should always have been reporting: not match reports and platitudes, but what the issues are, and what they think about them. Commercial confidentiality needn't have been compromised. Still, it's old news. If they thought that was necessary (or even polite) they'd have done it. The new board is far better at engaging with the fans directly, anyway. Until they tell us otherwise, I'll assume those two are still irrelevant. It's a shame, though: there's scope for a useful role there.
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Post by vaughan on Jun 2, 2016 14:39:12 GMT
There is a key and consistent theme on this thread - irrelevance of those that once thought they were important.
For the third time on this thread, I shout "IT'S OVER".
For those who wish to plough on regardless, all I can say is that it's pitiful viewing and any justification built on volunteering, benefit of the club etc. doesn't detract from this.
BSS, KM, JC - thanks and good night. Wake up and smell the Wael.
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