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Post by lostinspace on May 19, 2016 17:21:51 GMT
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Post by Peter Parker on May 19, 2016 17:25:00 GMT
Looks like a few of us saw it at the same time. Just deleted my post about it.
Not a bad idea I.dont think. Would get my vote
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 17:25:13 GMT
Three of us posted at the same time. Less midweek games then I guess, extra division. On the whole seems like a good idea bringing in the better teams from the national league.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 17:35:16 GMT
Rubbish rubbish rubbish. Fewer games. Bollocks.
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Post by badbloodash on May 19, 2016 18:26:49 GMT
Three of us posted at the same time. Less midweek games then I guess, extra division. On the whole seems like a good idea bringing in the better teams from the national league. In theory ok no mid week journeys to the frozen north but some of my best memories are weds night games 02/05/90 wonder how much the cost of a season ticket would be for 4 games less .if things were organised better by the football league ( maybe limit on distance for night games ) and ensuring xmas / new year/ Easter were local .thinking about it a bit more I think this might be because of dwindling numbers of viewers for champion league TV games as attendance wise more people attend football league games than premiership so no midweek games more punters for BT more money for premiership sides
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Post by Igitur on May 19, 2016 18:30:30 GMT
The FL claim that clubs should increase income or at worse stay about the same. It's hard to see this as 3 home games will be lost. The FL say that midweek games are sometimes poorly attended and more would attend weekend ones; would the loss of 3 or 4 midweeks equate to the expected increase at 3 fewer weekend games? There are only a certain number of hospitality places or boxes. Some people can only make midweeks, and night games have a character of their own.
There is not the same kind of backlog fixtures we had years ago, and L1 and L2 teams are rarely involved in long cup runs.
Next we'll have no relegation from the Premier, regional leagues and Premier 2nd XIs playing on the lower leagues.
Shaun Harvey is not well liked by Leeds and Bradford fans.
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Post by Peter Parker on May 19, 2016 18:39:36 GMT
The FL claim that clubs should increase income or at worse stay about the same. It's hard to see this as 3 home games will be lost. The FL say that midweek games are sometimes poorly attended and more would attend weekend ones; would the loss of 3 or 4 midweeks equate to the expected increase at 3 fewer weekend games? There are only a certain number of hospitality places or boxes. Some people can only make midweeks, and night games have a character of their own. There is not the same kind of backlog fixtures we had years ago, and L1 and L2 teams are rarely involved in long cup runs. Next we'll have no relegation from the Premier, regional leagues and Premier 2nd XIs playing on the lower leagues. Shaun Harvey is not well liked by Leeds and Bradford fans. At the end of the day the clubs have to vote for it. If they do they must feel it beneficial
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 19:05:47 GMT
For the England team; to restore/preserve traditional English Christmas, New Year, and Easter football programmes; for the Premier League to have a short winter break, for the FA Cup, for English clubs in Europe, and for the football league; I would happily cut the Premier League to 30 rounds for 16 teams. They might even have to play another earlier round in the FA Cup too.
But no, no, no, and no.
The football league divisions should each remain 46 rounds for 24 teams. Keep the number of games.
I'm against this proposed change.
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Post by optogas1976 on May 19, 2016 20:41:56 GMT
This stinks, my guess is create the league promise no prem b teams Will be included, promote eight teams from non league and parachute the b teams in as straight replacements. Sell it to the conference as think of the extra money, your teams playing against the stars of the future etc.... Then slowly each B team will get into the league, slowly moving up until they reach the championship if enough of them can keep winning it then won't be allowed promotion and the Prem becomes a closed shop. This is all about the big boys closing shop.
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Post by strung out on May 19, 2016 20:52:32 GMT
This is a terrible idea all round. I like watching my team play football. Why would I want fewer matches?
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Post by Rex on May 19, 2016 22:09:57 GMT
I see the main premise of the argument is to help league clubs more money. Here's a radical idea to help in that regard, stop the Premier league clubs hovering up every last drop of money from TV deals, prize money and every where else they attempt to force their greedy little snouts in.
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Post by bs14gas on May 19, 2016 22:16:02 GMT
This is a terrible idea all round. I like watching my team play football. Why would I want fewer matches? Quality goes up?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 22:17:28 GMT
This is a terrible idea all round. I like watching my team play football. Why would I want fewer matches? Quality goes up? Why does it?
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Post by matealotblue on May 19, 2016 22:19:17 GMT
I see the main premise of the argument is to help league clubs more money. Here's a radical idea to help in that regard, stop the Premier league clubs hovering up every last drop of money from TV deals, prize money and every where else they attempt to force their greedy little snouts in. I haven't really looked in depth at this proposal yet....but why do I get the feeling that somehow some way this suggestion will benefit PL clubs more than FL clubs? Everything else does so why not this?
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Post by Peter Parker on May 20, 2016 5:56:38 GMT
If the play off format is retained potentiall less dead meaningless games at the end of the season
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Post by Peter Parker on May 20, 2016 7:07:49 GMT
I didn't notice this so I guess we wouldn't lose as many games and the FLT would be mid week
The Football League Trophy would also see a new format introduced to include a group structure of three games followed by a knockout stage. Group games would be played over the middle weekend of international breaks to “provide the competition with its own identity”.
65 out of 72 have to vote the measures through.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 7:31:46 GMT
Swapping League games for FLT games is also bollocks. The whole idea can f*** off.
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Post by Peter Parker on May 20, 2016 7:40:45 GMT
But hopefully less football league games that don’t matter.
Wonder what the internet would have said with the creation of a second division, or the League Cup being created, or the play-off system?
Why did they never change the 4 division to 3 up 3 down the same when the divisions merged?
Things change and have done over 130 years.. don’t think it should be rubbished out of hand
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 8:10:44 GMT
Does anyone trust these clowns?
>Eight new teams to join the league? With the way they chase money does anyone actually believe that it'll be 8 Conference sides? I don't think the Conference structure will change at all. My assumption, knowing what they've said before, knowing what the governance of football is like in this country it's be eight B teams or six B teams and the Old Firm.
>Less games and the culling of midweek games? The way they've packaged it screams of "we want more TV revenue from abroad" so will we start seeing absolutely daft kick off times over the weekend? Probably. Some of the Playoff matches have been at utterly absurd times. Could we end up playing games at 10am on a Saturday? I wouldn't rule it out.
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Post by GasMacc1 on May 20, 2016 8:40:35 GMT
In May 2019, Rovers, playing in the new stadium, win their final game of the season against Aston Villa to become Champions of League 1.
Rovers fans' celebrations are muted, though. Rather than being promoted to the second tier, the Pirates become founder members of the new "Costcutter Elite League (South)": in other words, the joint-third tier.
With typical optimism and fortitude, Rovers are determined to become Champions in 2019-20, to occupy the single position that makes them eligible for a play-off against the club that finishes bottom of the second tier. The season begins badly, though, as early defeats against Southampton "B" and Arsenal "C" get the Gas off to an inauspicious start.
In common with other clubs with histories stretching back over 130 years, Rovers' crowds start to dwindle as the appetite for playing reserve teams begin to pall. The perception grows that the re-construction of the football pyramid has made the possibility of advancement to the second-tier almost unattainable. Confounding the odds, though, Rovers finish top and comfortably beat the West Ham Iron-men home and away in the play-off.
To the astonishment of the Gasheads, Rovers are denied promotion, as the League point to an agreement (rumoured to have been thrashed out by the Football League with the Iron-men in a meeting in the Olympic Stadium, with Rovers only tele-conferencing in) that requires a promoted club to have a greater stadium capacity than that of the club they would replace in the second tier.
By the end of the decade, only 40 clubs remain in the whole country.
England fail to reach the quarter-finals of any international tournament.
If anyone is in any doubt about the danger of the proposed changes, try reading chapter 6 from David Goldblatt's prize-winning book "The Game of our Lives". It's entitled "You Don't Know What You're Doing: The Misgovernance of English Football".
It opens with a quote from Sven-Göran Eriksson: "there is more politics in football than in politics".
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