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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 11:57:44 GMT
I think whatever happens we will have to get used to playing the 'bad guys' in the national media narrative. Right now everyone is holding out for Accrington to pip us as the great underdog story - that will be doubly the case for Wimbledon. Then if beat them and get Portsmouth they're a fantastic redemption narrative. Accy can get promoted along with us, but it won't help, they'll get relegated straight away. Don't underestimate how much of a plonker people think that attention seeking idiot with the hat and the bell is. Not everybody loves Portsmouth. There's also quite a lot of national sentiment for 'plucky little Bristol Rovers', of course that's going to evaporate as soon as Wael and Darrel get us into the Champions League.
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Post by Gashead on May 1, 2016 12:31:35 GMT
A lot of feeling we can get up through autos, that would be great but it will be the play offs, here's why: - references to our last day v Mansfield are irrelevant, we were at the bottom for good reason, so always liable to lose. Accrington and Oxford are at the top for good reason. - we are talking about 3 of the most consistent teams in the division, yes pressure can change this, but Accies have no expectation, few fans, and I suspect a siege mentality built by a Wiley manager to motivate the team. They just keep winning! - Wycombe are useless and don't win 'big' games. That mentality just isn't there. Prepare for the Dons! Well I'm glad you've sorted that out for us! Accy drew with a horribly out of form Morecambe at home the other week, its supposedly a 'derby game' and the crowd was a bit bigger. The crowd will be much, much bigger on Saturday, against a Stevenage side who have been getting results. I agree re: Wycombe, but when they want to be b******s and grind out a result they can. Oxford struggle massively against physical, long ball sides. Barnet won there earlier in the season for example. Depends on whether Wycombe are up for it.
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Post by Gashead on May 1, 2016 12:34:15 GMT
As for the play-offs if it does come to that - whilst Wombles will be a tough game we have the quality to beat anyone over two legs in my opinion.
Plymouth and Pompey are notorious bottlers. The latter's fans will think it will be a walk in the park given our performances against them earlier in the season - that's not a good situation of complacency for them to be in. Pompey haven't been to Wembley since the cup final so will take a huge number of fans which this side haven't seen before, whilst I can't remember the last time Plymouth went to Wembley.
I'm still confident for next week, but I'm not fearful of the play-offs by any stretch.
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 1, 2016 12:42:35 GMT
I think whatever happens we will have to get used to playing the 'bad guys' in the national media narrative. Right now everyone is holding out for Accrington to pip us as the great underdog story - that will be doubly the case for Wimbledon. Then if beat them and get Portsmouth they're a fantastic redemption narrative. Bugger the narrative and the old Rovers stories of what could've been. This is a team of winners and they are out to get that last spot. Wycombe will be out to spoil their rivals promotion party. We just have to keep focused and win our final game at the mem. Such a shame so many will miss out. I think it's going to be party time on the Glos rd come 17:00 next Saturday
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Post by irishrover on May 1, 2016 13:17:17 GMT
I think whatever happens we will have to get used to playing the 'bad guys' in the national media narrative. Right now everyone is holding out for Accrington to pip us as the great underdog story - that will be doubly the case for Wimbledon. Then if beat them and get Portsmouth they're a fantastic redemption narrative. Accy can get promoted along with us, but it won't help, they'll get relegated straight away. Don't underestimate how much of a plonker people think that attention seeking idiot with the hat and the bell is. Not everybody loves Portsmouth. There's also quite a lot of national sentiment for 'plucky little Bristol Rovers', of course that's going to evaporate as soon as Wael and Darrel get us into the Champions League. True-but I think it's a rather unusual position for us to be in nevertheless. You're right on Portsmouth but I can't see national media being able to resist the 'fans rescued them from oblivion' take.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 13:32:27 GMT
Accy can get promoted along with us, but it won't help, they'll get relegated straight away. Don't underestimate how much of a plonker people think that attention seeking idiot with the hat and the bell is. Not everybody loves Portsmouth. There's also quite a lot of national sentiment for 'plucky little Bristol Rovers', of course that's going to evaporate as soon as Wael and Darrel get us into the Champions League. True-but I think it's a rather unusual position for us to be in nevertheless. You're right on Portsmouth but I can't see national media being able to resist the 'fans rescued them from oblivion' take. There's also still some residual hostility towards Porstmouth for the way they spent a fortune that they didn't have. And rightly so. Maybe the fans did pick up the pieces, but they dined at the top table for years, played in a FA cup final etc, so it's hard to see how a victim narrative can be constructed.
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Post by bs14gas on May 1, 2016 13:36:06 GMT
A lot of feeling we can get up through autos, that would be great but it will be the play offs, here's why: - references to our last day v Mansfield are irrelevant, we were at the bottom for good reason, so always liable to lose. Accrington and Oxford are at the top for good reason. - we are talking about 3 of the most consistent teams in the division, yes pressure can change this, but Accies have no expectation, few fans, and I suspect a siege mentality built by a Wiley manager to motivate the team. They just keep winning! - Wycombe are useless and don't win 'big' games. That mentality just isn't there. Prepare for the Dons! Well I'm glad you've sorted that out for us! Accy drew with a horribly out of form Morecambe at home the other week, its supposedly a 'derby game' and the crowd was a bit bigger. The crowd will be much, much bigger on Saturday, against a Stevenage side who have been getting results. I agree re: Wycombe, but when they want to be b******s and grind out a result they can. Oxford struggle massively against physical, long ball sides. Barnet won there earlier in the season for example. Depends on whether Wycombe are up for it. [ Well I'm glad you've sorted that out for us! No problemo! P.s I don't fear any other team in play offs! UTG. Read more: gasheads.org/thread/5059/play-offs#ixzz47PXU6kRQ
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 13:36:45 GMT
Nothing to fear. As the Tangmere fans told us You won't beat us 3 times in a season. UTG. Pardon my ignorance but what have Tranmere got to do with this please ? 1990 Wembley ldv vans trophy or whatever it was called,beat them twice in the league but...
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 1, 2016 15:00:29 GMT
True-but I think it's a rather unusual position for us to be in nevertheless. You're right on Portsmouth but I can't see national media being able to resist the 'fans rescued them from oblivion' take. There's also still some residual hostility towards Porstmouth for the way they spent a fortune that they didn't have. And rightly so. Maybe the fans did pick up the pieces, but they dined at the top table for years, played in a FA cup final etc, so it's hard to see how a victim narrative can be constructed. Absolutely! Where are the missing millions??
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Post by fatherjackhackett on May 1, 2016 15:17:33 GMT
Accy can get promoted along with us, but it won't help, they'll get relegated straight away. Don't underestimate how much of a plonker people think that attention seeking idiot with the hat and the bell is. Not everybody loves Portsmouth. There's also quite a lot of national sentiment for 'plucky little Bristol Rovers', of course that's going to evaporate as soon as Wael and Darrel get us into the Champions League. True-but I think it's a rather unusual position for us to be in nevertheless. You're right on Portsmouth but I can't see national media being able to resist the 'fans rescued them from oblivion' take. How very dare fans get off their asses to save their club rather than wait for a benefactor.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 15:34:05 GMT
There's also still some residual hostility towards Porstmouth for the way they spent a fortune that they didn't have. And rightly so. Maybe the fans did pick up the pieces, but they dined at the top table for years, played in a FA cup final etc, so it's hard to see how a victim narrative can be constructed. Absolutely! Where are the missing millions?? Spent on 'arry's wages and high profile players. They even had global superstar Liam Lawrence on their books for a while. Of course, he was far too good and has now moved to a much better club. Seriously though, look at Portsmouth's Wiki page, entry 1.8.2, 'Administration again', says it all.
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Post by droitwichgas on May 1, 2016 21:28:17 GMT
All I can hope is that surely the footballing gods won't make us suffer for a third season running, turning up in hope at he Mem only to be let down again? I wonder if any other team has suffered like we could for 3 seasons consecutive seasons, in fact how we've managed to finish at home 3 seasons running! At least this season we are relying upon 2 clubs not slipping up instead of the usual 1 club.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 21:49:03 GMT
All I can hope is that surely the footballing gods won't make us suffer for a third season running, turning up in hope at he Mem only to be let down again? I wonder if any other team has suffered like we could for 3 seasons consecutive seasons, in fact how we've managed to finish at home 3 seasons running! At least this season we are relying upon 2 clubs not slipping up instead of the usual 1 club. Grimsbury have had it worse than us. 2013. Conference play off semi-final defeat and lose FA trophy final at Wembley. 2014. Conference play off semi-final defeat. 2015. Jon-Paul Pittman can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo. Still not convinced? 2008 Football League trophy final defeat at Wembley. 2006 L1 play off final defeat at Cardiff. Looks like you have to go back to 1998 for them to have actually have had some good fortune; 1997–1998 – Promoted to Division One, after winning the Division Two Play-off final at Wembley Stadium, also winning the Football League Trophy at Wembley in the same year.
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Post by timothyq on May 1, 2016 23:01:39 GMT
Next Sat will be a real iconic experience.We'll be leaving Staffordshire at 9am.The new score board will be a source of much attention.Just imagine if we make it and avoid the Play-offs?Just have to be there.We beat Southport easily this time last year but to no avail as Barnet. pipped us.Can this be the same team that 12 months ago were playing part timers? Amazing season thus far.Loved every minute( except Accrington at home). Thanks for a great season.Have a feeling that this time next week I'll be on cloud nine!!!!!!!!! Where abouts in Staffs do you live? I lived in Leek for a few years between 04-07. Didn't know there were any other Gasheads about!
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Post by irishrover on May 2, 2016 0:32:29 GMT
True-but I think it's a rather unusual position for us to be in nevertheless. You're right on Portsmouth but I can't see national media being able to resist the 'fans rescued them from oblivion' take. How very dare fans get off their asses to save their club rather than wait for a benefactor. That isn't really what happened though is it? Bamber is right. What actually happened was that they all sat there and hovered up the good times well past the point when it was pretty clear that everything looked spectacularly dodgy and built on stands. Then when it ground to the inevitable halt a football club landed in their laps almost by default because there was nothing left for anyone to asset strip anymore. I'm entirely with Bamber here - the don't deserve the redemption narrative, but they'll get it anyway.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 8:15:26 GMT
How very dare fans get off their asses to save their club rather than wait for a benefactor. That isn't really what happened though is it? Bamber is right. What actually happened was that they all sat there and hovered up the good times well past the point when it was pretty clear that everything looked spectacularly dodgy and built on sands. Then when it ground to the inevitable halt a football club landed in their laps almost by default because there was nothing left for anyone to asset strip anymore. I'm entirely with Bamber here - the don't deserve the redemption narrative, but they'll get it anyway. They took the stadium owner to court and bought the ground from him for a paltry £3m. Well done them for making it happen, I'm sure all supporters would fight for their club in a similar way if the chips were down, but as you say, they had the good times, the bubble was always going to burst.
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Post by gasheadpirate on May 2, 2016 8:24:53 GMT
All I can hope is that surely the footballing gods won't make us suffer for a third season running, turning up in hope at he Mem only to be let down again? I wonder if any other team has suffered like we could for 3 seasons consecutive seasons, in fact how we've managed to finish at home 3 seasons running! At least this season we are relying upon 2 clubs not slipping up instead of the usual 1 club. Two years ago we only needed to draw or if we lost, one of two teams not to win for us not to go down. We all know what happened. :-(
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Post by Colyton Gas. on May 2, 2016 8:34:06 GMT
Next Sat will be a real iconic experience.We'll be leaving Staffordshire at 9am.The new score board will be a source of much attention.Just imagine if we make it and avoid the Play-offs?Just have to be there.We beat Southport easily this time last year but to no avail as Barnet. pipped us.Can this be the same team that 12 months ago were playing part timers? Amazing season thus far.Loved every minute( except Accrington at home). Thanks for a great season.Have a feeling that this time next week I'll be on cloud nine!!!!!!!!! Where abouts in Staffs do you live? I lived in Leek for a few years between 04-07. Didn't know there were any other Gasheads about! Eccleshall.Few of us in the Stafford area.5 going this Sat.
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Post by lostinspace on May 2, 2016 9:08:37 GMT
A lot of feeling we can get up through autos, that would be great but it will be the play offs, here's why: - references to our last day v Mansfield are irrelevant, we were at the bottom for good reason, so always liable to lose. Accrington and Oxford are at the top for good reason. - we are talking about 3 of the most consistent teams in the division, yes pressure can change this, but Accies have no expectation, few fans, and I suspect a siege mentality built by a Wiley manager to motivate the team. They just keep winning! - Wycombe are useless and don't win 'big' games. That mentality just isn't there. Prepare for the Dons! Just as Spurs were guaranteed to stuff the Baggies, right? conspiracies abound here as Swansea were at the pit face, not the least interested in the game, and WBA decided to get played off the park in the first half, letting spurs hit the post 3 times, then decided to turn up and play their best half of football all season,and their next game WHU was back to the normal sh8ye!!!
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Post by nit3owl64 on May 2, 2016 9:28:48 GMT
Dates and KO times for play offs:
Match A
Leg 1 Thursday 12th May 19:45 Leg 2 Sunday 15th May 18:00
Match B
Leg 1 Saturday 14th May 19:30 Leg 2 Wednesday 18th May 19:45
Final Monday 30th May 15:00
Hopefully we won't need these!!!
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