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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 5, 2016 21:13:05 GMT
Great interview on the Rovers Youtube channel with Steve Hamer. The guy just instills so much confidence in me. He doesn't waffle, prevaricate or bulls***, just tells it as it is. Our old chairman seems like a bad dream in comparison. He mentions how he's 'finding out how the club used to be ran' which is another way of say 'for f**ks sake!' Says when they are in a position to make public any stadium announcement they will. Jolly good stuff. Apart from confirming the season ticket sales it sounded like 8 mins of waffle to me, pretty sure the last time he mentioned undercarriage it was talking about the UWE not it's our promotion challenge? I'll be happier once he confirms the finance for the UWE is in place, it's meaningless comparing us to Bournemouth unless the Al-Q's are prepared to invest millions in the playing side, as their owner has done.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Apr 5, 2016 21:35:23 GMT
Everytime i see an interview with Hamer he says the same thing, when all most gasheads want to know is when the first brick in the ground at uwe will be.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 6, 2016 6:42:11 GMT
Everytime i see an interview with Hamer he says the same thing, when all most gasheads want to know is when the first brick in the ground at uwe will be.week tomorrow at about 8:37 in the morning
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Post by chippenhamgas on Apr 6, 2016 6:44:13 GMT
Everytime i see an interview with Hamer he says the same thing, when all most gasheads want to know is when the first brick in the ground at uwe will be.week tomorrow at about 8:37 in the morning I'm not talking about the car park!
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Post by belmontman on Apr 6, 2016 7:16:39 GMT
Oh look! After just a few weeks the whinging disease sufferers feel it's safe to spread their infections.
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Post by faggotygas on Apr 6, 2016 7:25:38 GMT
I did watch the interview. It is just that I would rather invest my emotions in the tragic (sic) case of Paul Withey than in pointless point-scoring. I thought you guys said you were leaving the past behind in this brave new world. It seems you just cannot. What a bizarre argument
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 9:05:19 GMT
Everytime i see an interview with Hamer he says the same thing, when all most gasheads want to know is when the first brick in the ground at uwe will be. I agree, Hamer hasn't actually said a great deal so far, but with the team pushing for promotion I would rather he kept his head down and just let the manager and players do their job for the next few weeks. Of course we all want work to start sooner rather than later, but I'm more interested in being told that we have partners on board and that the club will be financially self-sufficient in the new stadium, if that takes a bit of time then so be it.
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Post by Igitur on Apr 6, 2016 9:14:09 GMT
Everytime i see an interview with Hamer he says the same thing, when all most gasheads want to know is when the first brick in the ground at uwe will be. I agree, Hamer hasn't actually said a great deal so far, but with the team pushing for promotion I would rather he kept his head down at just let the manager and players do their job for the next few weeks. Of course we all want work to start sooner rather than later, but I'm more interested in being told that we have partners on board and that the club will be financially self-sufficient in the new stadium, if that takes a bit of time then so be it. Agree, the previous set of puddings focussed too much on the stadium and it cost us our league place. It will take time to unpick what has gone on before. I'm sure most of us have rented a flat or bought a house and they're both usually nightmares, and that's without confidentiality clauses banning you from telling your friends, multiply that by a factor of a thousand or so.
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Post by mrbluesky on Apr 6, 2016 9:34:10 GMT
Everytime i see an interview with Hamer he says the same thing, when all most gasheads want to know is when the first brick in the ground at uwe will be. the trouble is in the modern world managers,players and chairman have to give interviews to the media even when there is nothing much to say!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 6, 2016 9:42:35 GMT
Everytime i see an interview with Hamer he says the same thing, when all most gasheads want to know is when the first brick in the ground at uwe will be. I agree, Hamer hasn't actually said a great deal so far, but with the team pushing for promotion I would rather he kept his head down at just let the manager and players do their job for the next few weeks. Of course we all want work to start sooner rather than later, but I'm more interested in being told that we have partners on board and that the club will be financially self-sufficient in the new stadium, if that takes a bit of time then so be it. Having had a chat with my good friend at Glos planning, he said that if rovers want to make major changes to the build but not apply for new planning, it could take upto 6 months to get through the planning office. so i don't expect any major announcements for while
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 9:46:35 GMT
I agree, Hamer hasn't actually said a great deal so far, but with the team pushing for promotion I would rather he kept his head down at just let the manager and players do their job for the next few weeks. Of course we all want work to start sooner rather than later, but I'm more interested in being told that we have partners on board and that the club will be financially self-sufficient in the new stadium, if that takes a bit of time then so be it. Having had a chat with my good friend at Glos planning, he said that if rovers want to make major changes to the build but not apply for new planning, it could take upto 6 months to get through the planning office. so i don't expect any major announcements for while I'm expecting either a change in capacity or a change in design to allow a future increase in capacity. But I'm also expecting it to be properly planned so that the potential for failure doesn't have to be hidden behind the smoke screen of confidentiality. Was anybody actually taken in by that nonsense?
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Post by fanatical on Apr 6, 2016 9:55:49 GMT
That's not all he said. He said he would release information when he knew it was concrete fact. That's far better than having a watertight case or telling us we'd be off to Whaddon Road. The plans are in place and have been for some time... The plans may have been in place but not the wherewithall to make them happen.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Apr 6, 2016 10:33:17 GMT
I agree, Hamer hasn't actually said a great deal so far, but with the team pushing for promotion I would rather he kept his head down at just let the manager and players do their job for the next few weeks. Of course we all want work to start sooner rather than later, but I'm more interested in being told that we have partners on board and that the club will be financially self-sufficient in the new stadium, if that takes a bit of time then so be it. Having had a chat with my good friend at Glos planning, he said that if rovers want to make major changes to the build but not apply for new planning, it could take upto 6 months to get through the planning office. so i don't expect any major announcements for while Surely any major changes would constitute a new application? You can fiddle around with certain things to tweak applications, but "major changes" = new application, in my experience.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 6, 2016 10:46:20 GMT
Having had a chat with my good friend at Glos planning, he said that if rovers want to make major changes to the build but not apply for new planning, it could take upto 6 months to get through the planning office. so i don't expect any major announcements for while Surely any major changes would constitute a new application? You can fiddle around with certain things to tweak applications, but "major changes" = new application, in my experience. You cannot change any major Structure of the stadium without new planning and that could take upto 24-36 months, but you can change items within the basic structure to reflect your current requirements ie you can change walls, etc but not the roof line or orientation of the building
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Post by ricardo on Apr 6, 2016 12:11:40 GMT
I did watch the interview. It is just that I would rather invest my emotions in the tragic (sic) case of Paul Withey than in pointless point-scoring. I thought you guys said you were leaving the past behind in this brave new world. It seems you just cannot. Disgraceful post. Think this should be removed.
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Post by womble on Apr 6, 2016 12:30:14 GMT
Having had a chat with my good friend at Glos planning, he said that if rovers want to make major changes to the build but not apply for new planning, it could take upto 6 months to get through the planning office. so i don't expect any major announcements for while I'm expecting either a change in capacity or a change in design to allow a future increase in capacity. But I'm also expecting it to be properly planned so that the potential for failure doesn't have to be hidden behind the smoke screen of confidentiality. Was anybody actually taken in by that nonsense? I don't think we'll need to change the design (externally anyway), as the present plan allows for an increase from 21,700 to 26,000 by installing a second tier. A third tier (which would require another planning application), would take it to 35,000. I can't see us needing that in the near future. I do have fond memories of being in a 33,000+ crowd at Eastville vs Stoke in the 5th round of the league cup, so who knows?
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Post by Peter Parker on Apr 6, 2016 12:35:58 GMT
I'm expecting either a change in capacity or a change in design to allow a future increase in capacity. But I'm also expecting it to be properly planned so that the potential for failure doesn't have to be hidden behind the smoke screen of confidentiality. Was anybody actually taken in by that nonsense? I don't think we'll need to change the design (externally anyway), as the present plan allows for an increase from 21,700 to 26,000 by installing a second tier. A third tier (which would require another planning application), would take it to 35,000. I can't see us needing that in the near future. I do have fond memories of being in a 33,000+ crowd at Eastville vs Stoke in the 5th round of the league cup, so who knows? I guess if they wanted to build the 26,000 version straight off then they would need some minor alterations to the current PP before they could start. In some ways itwould make sense to go for the 2nd step from the beginning
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Post by alloutofgas on Apr 6, 2016 13:26:29 GMT
I did watch the interview. It is just that I would rather invest my emotions in the tragic (sic) case of Paul Withey than in pointless point-scoring. I thought you guys said you were leaving the past behind in this brave new world. It seems you just cannot. What a bizarre argument Yes Faggoty, it took me several re reads to still be totally perplexed as to what he was actually saying. Two entirely different subjects being used to make an irrelevant point.
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Post by Centenary Gas on Apr 6, 2016 13:55:45 GMT
I'm expecting either a change in capacity or a change in design to allow a future increase in capacity. But I'm also expecting it to be properly planned so that the potential for failure doesn't have to be hidden behind the smoke screen of confidentiality. Was anybody actually taken in by that nonsense? I don't think we'll need to change the design (externally anyway), as the present plan allows for an increase from 21,700 to 26,000 by installing a second tier. A third tier (which would require another planning application), would take it to 35,000. I can't see us needing that in the near future. I do have fond memories of being in a 33,000+ crowd at Eastville vs Stoke in the 5th round of the league cup, so who knows? My take on the expansion was that a second tier on 3 sides would increase to over 30k, I haven't heard anything about a 3rd? A second tier of 4,300 capacity would be pretty small, no? MK Dons lower tier is pretty close to our new stadium, 22,000. BBC reported their expansion in 2011: MK Dons have confirmed the second phase of their Stadium MK development will be completed by the start of next season.
The work, which will increase the ground's capacity from 22,000 to 32,000, is being funded by a new £56m retail development on the site.
Stadium MK has remained a work in progress since it was opened in 2007.
"It's something we've worked so hard for over the last few years," Dons chairman Pete Winkelman told BBC Three Counties Radio.
"Being able to secure these kinds of deals in this kind of economic climate is a great green light for growth in Milton Keynes."
The League One side have attracted an average attendance of 8,111 this season, with their highest crowd of 10,554 - against Scunthorpe in October - over 21,000 seats short of the ground's proposed capacity.
But the stadium has showed its potential to attract larger crowds through other events.
"It's not about the capacity for the football in the short term," Winkelman added. "It's about the cultural infrastructure of Milton Keynes.
"We set our stall out that we would go and build a Uefa standard stadium. It's already brought us international games and of course the Saints games last year.
"So it's really about all the things we can do if we get the stadium finished."
The work on the stadium, which is in the Denbigh area of Milton Keynes, will focus on putting seats in the currently unused second tier.
Initial plans for the project included the possibility of adding a third tier and taking the capacity to 45,000.
The retail park, which will be called MK1, will include spaces for four major retailers.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 6, 2016 15:12:16 GMT
I did watch the interview. It is just that I would rather invest my emotions in the tragic (sic) case of Paul Withey than in pointless point-scoring. I thought you guys said you were leaving the past behind in this brave new world. It seems you just cannot. What a bizarre argument Isn't it just ! I know we ALL have bad times and sometimes we post on here when going through some very deeply upsetting stuff but I guess I have learned, if only a little, to not let that surface in the way I once would have. I am sorry for this guy to be honest and hope they are ok. Anyway, I agree with the consensus that I would rather have the team do well and allow the dedicated people, employed for the stadium, to deal with it This is the main difference from the previous chairman and board. We now have professional people. whose only job it is is to sort out that side. Steve Hamer is basically letting them do their job and the visit to MK is something we should see as evidence of the levels of research that they are doing. The difference is light and day and there is no comparing the two. One tried to do it all by himself and made a hash of it while the new owner is going about it in a measured but purposeful manner. The art of delegation is a fine art but some are just incapable of ceding the responsibility to others. Nick took a huge gamble, it backfired. We now have owners who won't leave anything to chance and have levels of management to consult. The team is now able to freely do their thing and that must make a huge difference to DC & his planning for next season.
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