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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 15:21:24 GMT
Don't bite, it's just written to provoke a reaction. Higgs has been a disaster for Rovers, his record is there for all to see. UWE wasn't even originally his idea, all he did was spend millions to not deliver the project. As for what the new owners have bought, they have purchased potential, that's us, the supporters. Your not thinking on the same lines as me. Forget the Higgs bit for one moment and ask yourself this. Why was BRFC sold at this particular time, why now, why not last year when the Board were first appoached ? Why? When you can answer that, without being vindictive towards NH then perhaps you can see where I am coming from. Because a year ago Higgs still believed that he may be able to turn his equity in the present stadium into a much larger equity in a new complex. And as Seth points out, he was fast running out of options. I don't feel vindictive towards him, I hope he now finds time to relax with family and friends and enjoy things in life much more important than football.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 27, 2016 17:18:46 GMT
Nick made the club attractive enough that he was able to sell it. All the naysayers need to accept that BRFC still exists thanks to Nick's efforts which by itself is enough to define him as good chairman. I think Mr Higgs made that very clear and on several occasions. Did Mr Higgs make the club attractive or was it the upsurge of fans when we were unceremoniously dumped out of the league ? There are more than one thing that makes a club an attractive proposition. So, by your logic the fact that we managed to survive is good enough to gauge someone as a good chairman ? I dread to think what your idea of a bad one is but I understand that not everyone sees things the same way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 18:41:53 GMT
The club would have never been sold had the court case been won. I think the result of the appeal is already known hence the speedy completion of the takeover, on the new owners terms. I think the result of the case can be guessed at, but is not yet known I think Nick Higgs knew.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 20:01:36 GMT
No-one knows. Not even the Appeal Court judges, who each reach their own opinion and then see what the majority is before announcing it.
I think 'had a good sense of the likely outcome, in the opinion of his legal team' as Bamber said, is probably right. Did we ever get a grasp on what the grounds for appeal were? Some minor, what seemed to be niceties, which Sainsbury's people addressed in about 20 minutes. I wonder how much they'd been giving him that legal opinion for months, though, not just after coming out of the hearing, but he ignored it. Hey ho, it's all moot now. Someone else has picked up the bill.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 21:51:57 GMT
The appeal didn't look to be well grounded, it looked more like a spin on a roulette wheel with a huge return on the stake if you got lucky. What was it that Judy said, ''If I am wrong, which I don't think I am''? It would have been utter nonsense to base an appeal on that, surely?
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Post by didlesknowmydad on Feb 29, 2016 14:03:54 GMT
Your not thinking on the same lines as me. Forget the Higgs bit for one moment and ask yourself this. Why was BRFC sold at this particular time, why now, why not last year when the Board were first appoached ? Why? When you can answer that, without being vindictive towards NH then perhaps you can see where I am coming from. In general, because he ran out of straws to grasp at; several million quid, previously borrowed at Dick Turpin rates, was becoming repayable; the other Directors and the supporters as a source of funding had withdrawn confidence; and he had run out of options. More specifically, why last Thursday, just after issuing the AGM notice, and before the fig leaf of the appeal had been withdrawn, is something that intrigues me. I get the impression it was sudden, and push came to shove. That push could come to shove was a situation of his making. i don't think it was all a triumph of forward planning and stewardship. Considering his background in construction, I think the concept of forward planning was remarkably absent from his repertoire!
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Post by irishrover on Feb 29, 2016 15:34:43 GMT
Higgs struck me as someone who was used to working in an industry that was booming and for a company that was doing exceptionally well. While he would obviously deserve a great deal of credit for that I can imagine that going from an organisation that basically went from strength to strength to one that was spluttering in an industry that has completely lost touch with reality was probably quite a difficult adjustment to make.
The overall marker against Higgs ultimately was how poor he was at managing key relationships - I think we can be pretty clear on this given the number of people who were originally in his corner who ended up alienated. I don't mean just fans either - there's the weird business with Geoff Dunford etc. What he wanted to do I think was concentrate on the stadium project which he perceived as his strength and knock all the other stuff into touch but I think his reputation is largely based on a very blunt approach to managing relationships which in a position like his was arguably 50% of the actual job and more like 75% of how that job is perceived. I think previous Chairman, regardless of what you might say about their performance, grasped this - I don't think Higgs really did. It was as if he expected the fact that he was a fan to be sufficient to buy endless goodwill with everyone at all levels.
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Post by Angas on Feb 29, 2016 15:45:10 GMT
Personally I think he was sold a dummy by GD. And, as a result, we ended up with a dummy.
Oh well, onwards and (hopefully) upwards.
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