Thatslife
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Post by Thatslife on Feb 27, 2016 9:07:48 GMT
Nick made the club attractive enough that he was able to sell it. All the naysayers need to accept that BRFC still exists thanks to Nick's efforts which by itself is enough to define him as good chairman. I don't doubt that NH gave it his best shot, and that- as a Rovers fan- he absolutely had the club's best interests at heart. Anyone who thinks he was a successful chairman really does need to look at the league tables of recent years, and ask themselves whether someone who preceded over the lowest points in this club's history, can really be deemed as 'a good chairman'.
As for making the club 'attractive' to sell, that really is a bit of a back handed compliment!
My post is based on facts, we still exist, we have been sold. The manager is responsible for the teams performance, the Chairman's job is to support the manager which as far as I know Nick did with the finances available. His attempt to move the club forward was maybe to much focused on a new ground, but let's remember the events correctly, up until the evil Trash raised its head and Sainsbury cheated, Nick was on the way to becoming a legend.
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Post by Lazza on Feb 27, 2016 9:16:37 GMT
You are all misguided souls, Nick Higgs is a legend in this club You Troll!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 27, 2016 9:17:19 GMT
Nick made the club attractive enough that he was able to sell it. All the naysayers need to accept that BRFC still exists thanks to Nick's efforts which by itself is enough to define him as good chairman. All the things that made the club attractive ie potential, fan base, location, history, culture etc were there beore his tenure and have NOTHING to do do with Higgs input. In fact, he went some way to harm that potential and treat those positives with contempt and exclusion. The club exists because of DENIS DUNFORD (and to a lesser extent, his son) whom really should be canonised as a Gas saint. Higgs took us further back than any chairman in my living memory. And thoroughly unapologetic about it too. I don't doubt his integrity about supporting the club he loves, but the direction our club went under his watch is written in history with his name underlined as a title. I truly hope finding our club being run professionally in near future, we can all reflect back and think WTF was that all about!?
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 27, 2016 9:19:27 GMT
You shouldn't be shocked, there are truely many who do actually think that, I travel with some of them in my car on match days or to away games. There's none so blind as those whom wish to not see.. Didn't take long - resorting to playing the man instead of the ball
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 27, 2016 9:22:23 GMT
There's none so blind as those whom wish to not see.. Didn't take long - resorting to playing the man instead of the ball 4th division tactics, eh EMP?
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 27, 2016 10:05:31 GMT
Nick made the club attractive enough that he was able to sell it. All the naysayers need to accept that BRFC still exists thanks to Nick's efforts which by itself is enough to define him as good chairman. All the things that made the club attractive ie potential, fan base, location, history, culture etc were there beore his tenure and have NOTHING to do do with Higgs input. In fact, he went some way to harm that potential and treat those positives with contempt and exclusion. The club exists because of DENIS DUNFORD (and to a lesser extent, his son) whom really should be canonised as a Gas saint. Higgs took us further back than any chairman in my living memory. And thoroughly unapologetic about it too. I don't doubt his integrity about supporting the club he loves, but the direction our club went under his watch is written in history with his name underlined as a title. I truly hope finding our club being run professionally in near future, we can all reflect back and think WTF was that all about!? Damn right o2o2bo2ba. " Nick made the club attractive enough that he was able to sell it". What an utterly bizarre statement! What relation is Thatslife to Nick again?
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Post by Angas on Feb 27, 2016 10:27:56 GMT
Nick made the club attractive enough that he was able to sell it. All the naysayers need to accept that BRFC still exists thanks to Nick's efforts which by itself is enough to define him as good chairman. Able to sell it for the price he wanted, is more like it imo. Fortunately for us, the person with sufficient funds seems to be a good bloke. Breathe a sigh of relief that WAQ didn't fancy Gillingham - NH got lucky. So did we.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 10:32:39 GMT
Nick made the club attractive enough that he was able to sell it. All the naysayers need to accept that BRFC still exists thanks to Nick's efforts which by itself is enough to define him as good chairman. Able to sell it for the price he wanted, is more like it imo. Fortunately for us, the person with sufficient funds seems to be a good bloke. Breathe a sigh of relief that WAQ didn't fancy Gillingham - NH got lucky. So did we. What made Rovers attractive to outside investors was losing in court to Sainsburys. The club has planning permission for a new stadium and no money to build it. Plan B was always going to be the final outcome and there was no other option. So Higgs did make it attractive but it wasn't his choice.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 10:39:49 GMT
You shouldn't be shocked, there are truely many who do actually think that, I travel with some of them in my car on match days or to away games. I believe you. There arent many club chairman who could have got away with taking a club the size of BRFC club into non league.
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 27, 2016 10:40:04 GMT
Able to sell it for the price he wanted, is more like it imo. Fortunately for us, the person with sufficient funds seems to be a good bloke. Breathe a sigh of relief that WAQ didn't fancy Gillingham - NH got lucky. So did we. What made Rovers attractive to outside investors was losing in court to Sainsburys. The club has planning permission for a new stadium and no money to build it. Plan B was always going to be the final outcome and there was no other option. So Higgs did make it attractive but it wasn't his choice. I think that's true
but it would have been even more attractive if we'd got the £30m to build it first, so it was his choice - but his 2nd choice (hence Plan B)
it would be interesting if we go on to win the appeal. We don't know the details of the deal done (it might be that any appeal proceeds go into the transaction pot), but if we win and the proceeds go to Wael's family, some might feel they have been sold short. Heigh ho and yasil alghaz!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 10:50:08 GMT
All the things that made the club attractive ie potential, fan base, location, history, culture etc were there beore his tenure and have NOTHING to do do with Higgs input. In fact, he went some way to harm that potential and treat those positives with contempt and exclusion. The club exists because of DENIS DUNFORD (and to a lesser extent, his son) whom really should be canonised as a Gas saint. Higgs took us further back than any chairman in my living memory. And thoroughly unapologetic about it too. I don't doubt his integrity about supporting the club he loves, but the direction our club went under his watch is written in history with his name underlined as a title. I truly hope finding our club being run professionally in near future, we can all reflect back and think WTF was that all about!? Damn right o2o2bo2ba. " Nick made the club attractive enough that he was able to sell it". What an utterly bizarre statement! What relation is Thatslife to Nick again? Don't bite, it's just written to provoke a reaction. Higgs has been a disaster for Rovers, his record is there for all to see. UWE wasn't even originally his idea, all he did was spend millions to not deliver the project. As for what the new owners have bought, they have purchased potential, that's us, the supporters.
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Feb 27, 2016 11:10:32 GMT
Pre-Higgs era: turned a profit with club in the 3rd tier, relatively little serviceable debt. No new stadium. Post-Higgs era: Haemorrhaged millions of pounds year on year with club in 4th tier, high interest short term loan repayment due imminently. No new stadium. When did we ever turn a profit? www.bristolpost.co.uk/Bristol-Rovers-set-financial-loss/story-11263652-detail/story.htmlIf my memory is right, I believe the club also made around a million pounds from the Paint Pot and Play-off runs the year before.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 11:45:15 GMT
What made Rovers attractive to outside investors was losing in court to Sainsburys. The club has planning permission for a new stadium and no money to build it. Plan B was always going to be the final outcome and there was no other option. So Higgs did make it attractive but it wasn't his choice. I think that's true
but it would have been even more attractive if we'd got the £30m to build it first, so it was his choice - but his 2nd choice (hence Plan B)
it would be interesting if we go on to win the appeal. We don't know the details of the deal done (it might be that any appeal proceeds go into the transaction pot), but if we win and the proceeds go to Wael's family, some might feel they have been sold short. Heigh ho and yasil alghaz!
The club would have never been sold had the court case been won. I think the result of the appeal is already known hence the speedy completion of the takeover, on the new owners terms.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 11:46:11 GMT
That's what my memory tells me and that was under Ron Craig's chairmanship.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 11:53:31 GMT
Nick made the club attractive enough that he was able to sell it. All the naysayers need to accept that BRFC still exists thanks to Nick's efforts which by itself is enough to define him as good chairman. So his high point was leaving just before we went bust. Better than the alternative, I suppose.
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Thatslife
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Post by Thatslife on Feb 27, 2016 14:33:25 GMT
Damn right o2o2bo2ba. " Nick made the club attractive enough that he was able to sell it". What an utterly bizarre statement! What relation is Thatslife to Nick again? Don't bite, it's just written to provoke a reaction. Higgs has been a disaster for Rovers, his record is there for all to see. UWE wasn't even originally his idea, all he did was spend millions to not deliver the project. As for what the new owners have bought, they have purchased potential, that's us, the supporters. Your not thinking on the same lines as me. Forget the Higgs bit for one moment and ask yourself this. Why was BRFC sold at this particular time, why now, why not last year when the Board were first appoached ? Why? When you can answer that, without being vindictive towards NH then perhaps you can see where I am coming from.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 14:43:28 GMT
Don't bite, it's just written to provoke a reaction. Higgs has been a disaster for Rovers, his record is there for all to see. UWE wasn't even originally his idea, all he did was spend millions to not deliver the project. As for what the new owners have bought, they have purchased potential, that's us, the supporters. Your not thinking on the same lines as me. Forget the Higgs bit for one moment and ask yourself this. Why was BRFC sold at this particular time, why now, why not last year when the Board were first appoached ? Why? When you can answer that, without being vindictive towards NH then perhaps you can see where I am coming from. In general, because he ran out of straws to grasp at; several million quid, previously borrowed at Dick Turpin rates, was becoming repayable; the other Directors and the supporters as a source of funding had withdrawn confidence; and he had run out of options. More specifically, why last Thursday, just after issuing the AGM notice, and before the fig leaf of the appeal had been withdrawn, is something that intrigues me. I get the impression it was sudden, and push came to shove. That push could come to shove was a situation of his making. i don't think it was all a triumph of forward planning and stewardship.
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 27, 2016 14:51:35 GMT
I think that's true
but it would have been even more attractive if we'd got the £30m to build it first, so it was his choice - but his 2nd choice (hence Plan B)
it would be interesting if we go on to win the appeal. We don't know the details of the deal done (it might be that any appeal proceeds go into the transaction pot), but if we win and the proceeds go to Wael's family, some might feel they have been sold short. Heigh ho and yasil alghaz!
The club would have never been sold had the court case been won. I think the result of the appeal is already known hence the speedy completion of the takeover, on the new owners terms. I think the result of the case can be guessed at, but is not yet known
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 27, 2016 14:52:56 GMT
More specifically, why last Thursday, just after issuing the AGM notice, and before the fig leaf of the appeal had been withdrawn, is something that intrigues me. I get the impression it was sudden, and push came to shove Agreed, tis indeed intriguing
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 15:08:58 GMT
The club would have never been sold had the court case been won. I think the result of the appeal is already known hence the speedy completion of the takeover, on the new owners terms. I think the result of the case can be guessed at, but is not yet known Maybe he was told by his own legal team to prepare for bad news?
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