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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 24, 2016 15:35:51 GMT
OK a provocative title and in no way a criticism of anyone, but doing a quick check there only looks to have been just over 30 posts in the last 24 hours on the main board. As a user of both gasheads.org and gaschat, both have always appealed for different reasons, this site generally hosting the alternative and sometimes unorthodox view. However, a number of the posters from the old Independent Forum have moved along and, possibly, continued performance on the field is quelling the dissenting view off it. I'd imagine the appeal proceedings will rekindle debate on here next week, but what is happening to this forum? I wouldn't know the exact stats, but it appears on subject of the actual matches themselves, this forum has gone remarkably quiet in comparison (?) Considering we've taken 2400 away at Ox, and 6days later see largest home attendance of season, and not lost either game, can we surmise both forums are only buzzing with activity when it concerns negativity?
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Post by JeffNZ on Jan 24, 2016 19:48:57 GMT
This forum has always been the quieter of the two on match days.
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Post by Bridgeman on Jan 24, 2016 19:52:51 GMT
This forum has always been the quieter of the two on match days. Yeah, we're all at the game
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 24, 2016 23:14:44 GMT
When there was an Official Forum that was moderated like Pravda this forum was the main alternative where you could express an opinion that maybe the club wouldn't like without fear of getting banned and having your account deleted.. When the OF closed activity increased on here but GasChat was also born , created by people who had previously only posted on the OF. Gradually over time activity on that forum has increased and on here it has decreased . I think that is partly because the match day forum is far more active over there and also this forum is no longer needed as an alternative to the censored OF.
BTW I think the reason that this forum is labelled anti board is simply because in the past if you ever wanted to post anything strongly criticising the club or board you had to do it here because of the aggressive moderating on the OF. In reality there is little difference between this forum and GasChat now and personally I think it would be better if we were all in one place on a busier board.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 0:53:09 GMT
this place does fine for me
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 25, 2016 8:56:34 GMT
I never knew it was a match and it had to be one or the other. This forum will keep ticking along so there is no need to worry. As for being 100% anti NH can you prove that because I can assure you, you are wrong. I will admit that the average age of posters on here is more advanced in age than gas chat but that is good as it offers something different to gaschat. As for why does this keep going to the top that is easy, people are saying what they think. Oi, take that back bloomin' cheek, don't think being a Mod allows you to age discriminate We are more mature and considered in our posting I'll have you know you young whipper snapper And we have a sense of humour obviously! But we aren't all anti-board. Think in the circumstances NH has done a reasonable job in supporting DC over past 18 months. But I agree with being anti-bs and poor management over a long period of time. We should have so many more streams of income instead we have a board (IMO) always playing catch up, being reactive not proactive, hushing things up and not being open and not having the skills to move the club forward. Trouble is some of us have very long memories and have heard all the ***t about new grounds etc., we have seen the potential of huge crowds, we remember some clubs above us now as small non league clubs playing to hundreds and where are we? Way below where we should be but we are where we are and we have to move on which we are doing thanks to DC and team. Rant over. Thanks gasheads for letting me get that off my chest! UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 12:37:29 GMT
but going back to the original post why is this forum dropping back in numbers viewing and posting while gaschat seems to gain in strength despite some of the crazy arguments etc on there? I can't speak for all regulars on here but I would guess they will be losing no sleep on how many people read the forum and how it compares to the Gaschat playground. Another poster mentioned that this forum tends to attract the older supporter, I tend to agree with that, generally speaking it feels that way, and quality over quantity is why I only use this forum, no huge threads polluted with non relevant trash on what are supposed to be serious issues at the club. What people tend to struggle with when they find this forum, and bang the drum about the other forum being a happier more positive place (which it isn't), is the difference between optimism and trust, I am optimistic in life and have every reason to have to be, on the other hand there has been no shortage of reasons to not trust in the current chairman, if NH delivers a debt free stadium to the original spec he will get all the plaudits he deserves, and if i met the bloke in person i would thank him, congratulate him on his achievement, after the Cheltenham lies, the Kev Spencer episode and numerous other poor decisions made solely by the chairman its a case of speak as you find, not just say nice things to have 'optimistic status'. What is hard to understand is why viewing numbers are in question, who really cares in the big scheme of things? Does it really matter? Lets just hope that the rumours are true that the club is in talks with a consortium who are in a position to ensure a long term secure future for the club in a volatile industry, and a new stadium and player investment becomes a reality, that's about the only thing I care about at Rovers because IMO 2016 will soon become the most important year in the clubs history in hindsight and I hope NH makes the right decision for the good of the FC, and as for who reads the breaking news and what forum each supporter read the news on is as good as irrelevant.
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Post by davehuddscousin on Jan 25, 2016 13:43:15 GMT
I do read Gaschat occasionally, but I much prefer this forum. Gaschat has a lot of silly banter between people who obviously know each other, this site has a bit of that, but thankfully not as much.
There have been some good debates between Rovers fans on this Forum. I don't think it is just 'anti-board' people posting either.I think most fans would be delighted if BRFC won the court case against Sainsburys and built UWE, but our experience of many years of failed stadium projects (anyone remember Barry Bradshaw and Martin Flook's Stoke Gifford plan back in the '80s?) tends to make us a tad cynical!
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Post by irishrover on Jan 25, 2016 14:36:51 GMT
but going back to the original post why is this forum dropping back in numbers viewing and posting while gaschat seems to gain in strength despite some of the crazy arguments etc on there? I can't speak for all regulars on here but I would guess they will be losing no sleep on how many people read the forum and how it compares to the Gaschat playground. Another poster mentioned that this forum tends to attract the older supporter, I tend to agree with that, generally speaking it feels that way, and quality over quantity is why I only use this forum, no huge threads polluted with non relevant trash on what are supposed to be serious issues at the club. What people tend to struggle with when they find this forum, and bang the drum about the other forum being a happier more positive place (which it isn't), is the difference between optimism and trust, I am optimistic in life and have every reason to have to be, on the other hand there has been no shortage of reasons to not trust in the current chairman, if NH delivers a debt free stadium to the original spec he will get all the plaudits he deserves, and if i met the bloke in person i would thank him, congratulate him on his achievement, after the Cheltenham lies, the Kev Spencer episode and numerous other poor decisions made solely by the chairman its a case of speak as you find, not just say nice things to have 'optimistic status'. What is hard to understand is why viewing numbers are in question, who really cares in the big scheme of things? Does it really matter? Lets just hope that the rumours are true that the club is in talks with a consortium who are in a position to ensure a long term secure future for the club in a volatile industry, and a new stadium and player investment becomes a reality, that's about the only thing I care about at Rovers because IMO 2016 will soon become the most important year in the clubs history in hindsight and I hope NH makes the right decision for the good of the FC, and as for who reads the breaking news and what forum each supporter read the news on is as good as irrelevant. Yes - that is absolutely right. Optimism v trust - I like that. Another could be hope v positivity. In the sense that it is perfectly possible to very much hope things will work out but at the same time be critical of the methods for obtaining it especially in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. A final one could be the depressing concept of positive thinking as if we all live in a Disney movie and that any problem can be sold if everyone thinks positively enough about it for long enough. The phrase is optimism of the will, pessimism of the intellect. In other words acting, hoping and believing in a better future is essential but without the neccesary self-criticism then it risks becoming delusional. I always think the best decisions I've ever made in my life were never the ones where I carried on trying to succeed at/enjoy something against ever increasing odds but when I was brave enough to say to myself 'this isn't working - time to do something else/something differently'.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 25, 2016 16:39:12 GMT
When there was an Official Forum that was moderated like Pravda this forum was the main alternative where you could express an opinion that maybe the club wouldn't like without fear of getting banned and having your account deleted.. When the OF closed activity increased on here but GasChat was also born , created by people who had previously only posted on the OF. Gradually over time activity on that forum has increased and on here it has decreased . I think that is partly because the match day forum is far more active over there and also this forum is no longer needed as an alternative to the censored OF. BTW I think the reason that this forum is labelled anti board is simply because in the past if you ever wanted to post anything strongly criticising the club or board you had to do it here because of the aggressive moderating on the OF. In reality there is little difference between this forum and GasChat now and personally I think it would be better if we were all in one place on a busier board. In an ideal world then that would be great but there are plenty who prefer this place and who don't enjoy the sometimes peurile and facile stuff that goes on over there. I can post on here and even have a heated exchange but at least it is mostly based upon fact and not what has turned away from the original post. I could go into this so much more but I don't see any point in bringing up stuff that is now in the past. I am more than happy with this forum and would t bother if this one closed.
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Post by brizzle on Jan 25, 2016 16:41:59 GMT
Oi, take that back bloomin' cheek, don't think being a Mod allows you to age discriminate We are more mature and considered in our posting I'll have you know you young whipper snapper And we have a sense of humour obviously! But we aren't all anti-board. Think in the circumstances NH has done a reasonable job in supporting DC over past 18 months. But I agree with being anti-bs and poor management over a long period of time. We should have so many more streams of income instead we have a board (IMO) always playing catch up, being reactive not proactive, hushing things up and not being open and not having the skills to move the club forward. Trouble is some of us have very long memories and have heard all the ***t about new grounds etc., we have seen the potential of huge crowds, we remember some clubs above us now as small non league clubs playing to hundreds and where are we? Way below where we should be but we are where we are and we have to move on which we are doing thanks to DC and team. Rant over. Thanks gasheads for letting me get that off my chest! UTG! I totally agree with that statement. I'm most certainly not anti-board because we supporters have a lot to thank them for I believe. But equally the BoD (including the chairman) have made some decisions that I don't agree with, and I reserve the right to voice my concerns when that happens. I've always believed that we supporters are entitled to disagree with the Board (or anyone else for that matter), but in a proper way of course. It's all a part of life's rich tapestry surely? And who knows, it may just bring some influence to bear from time to time.
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Post by interceptor on Jan 25, 2016 16:46:30 GMT
When there was an Official Forum that was moderated like Pravda this forum was the main alternative where you could express an opinion that maybe the club wouldn't like without fear of getting banned and having your account deleted.. When the OF closed activity increased on here but GasChat was also born , created by people who had previously only posted on the OF. Gradually over time activity on that forum has increased and on here it has decreased . I think that is partly because the match day forum is far more active over there and also this forum is no longer needed as an alternative to the censored OF. BTW I think the reason that this forum is labelled anti board is simply because in the past if you ever wanted to post anything strongly criticising the club or board you had to do it here because of the aggressive moderating on the OF. In reality there is little difference between this forum and GasChat now and personally I think it would be better if we were all in one place on a busier board. In an ideal world then that would be great but there are plenty who prefer this place and who don't enjoy the sometimes peurile and facile stuff that goes on over there. I can post on here and even have a heated exchange but at least it is mostly based upon fact and not what has turned away from the original post. I could go into this so much more but I don't see any point in bringing up stuff that is now in the past. I am more than happy with this forum and would t bother if this one closed. Oh dear - I have just done a puerile post about Plymouth's no 6 on the Plymouth thread - sometimes I just cannot help myself.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 25, 2016 16:53:14 GMT
In an ideal world then that would be great but there are plenty who prefer this place and who don't enjoy the sometimes peurile and facile stuff that goes on over there. I can post on here and even have a heated exchange but at least it is mostly based upon fact and not what has turned away from the original post. I could go into this so much more but I don't see any point in bringing up stuff that is now in the past. I am more than happy with this forum and would t bother if this one closed. Oh dear - I have just done a puerile post about Plymouth's no 6 on the Plymouth thread - sometimes I just cannot help myself. I have no problem when it's not always the case. It when it gets to be the norm then it's just a drag and really not funny anymore. Maybe it's my age but when threads turn into slanging matches and personal abuse then it's not for me. I have to manage my life in a lot of ways and I now don't even allow myself to be drawn into the stuff that I really should have let go over my head. I noticed that when I blocked certain people, many have not posted or have disappeared. Seems my dear friend Lord justice has has turned away, I am pretty happy at that.
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Post by interceptor on Jan 25, 2016 17:06:40 GMT
Oh dear - I have just done a puerile post about Plymouth's no 6 on the Plymouth thread - sometimes I just cannot help myself. I have no problem when it's not always the case. It when it gets to be the norm then it's just a drag and really not funny anymore. Maybe it's my age but when threads turn into slanging matches and personal abuse then it's not for me. I have to manage my life in a lot of ways and I now don't even allow myself to be drawn into the stuff that I really should have let go over my head. I noticed that when I blocked certain people, many have not posted or have disappeared. Seems my dear friend Lord justice has has turned away, I am pretty happy at that. I agree - try not to do that stuff, its dangerous. Hartley - Plymouth no 6 is a knob though.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 25, 2016 19:07:21 GMT
Oh dear - I have just done a puerile post about Plymouth's no 6 on the Plymouth thread - sometimes I just cannot help myself. I have no problem when it's not always the case. It when it gets to be the norm then it's just a drag and really not funny anymore. Maybe it's my age but when threads turn into slanging matches and personal abuse then it's not for me. I have to manage my life in a lot of ways and I now don't even allow myself to be drawn into the stuff that I really should have let go over my head. I noticed that when I blocked certain people, many have not posted or have disappeared. Seems my dear friend Lord justice has has turned away, I am pretty happy at that. Think he got himself a ban TBH.
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Post by Bridgeman on Jan 25, 2016 21:54:18 GMT
Perhaps we're not slowly dying after all, we just go into a collective hibernation.....
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Post by aghast on Jan 25, 2016 23:18:53 GMT
I registered on here (the old version) before the OF closed down. I stayed on here when Gaschat was set up and when the new version of the forum was created, and later joined Gaschat too, but I said on both forums that we should merge. No-one seemed to agree with me, but I felt that we lose influence and shared knowledge if we split into two main forums.
I still read this forum, but it seems all the team and stadium news is coming from Gaschat now, and this forum is feeding off that. The number of posts and posters is declining. That's a real shame. I still think we should merge. I think Gaschat would have no problem with that whatsover, but a few proud people here, maintaining their independence, wouldn't want it. Which is silly, since we're all cut loose from the OF now.
There is a lot of silly chat over there, but since recent tightening up by the mods recently, a lot less personal abuse. In fact almost none.
I do think this forum is currently suffering. With so many good posters on here not responding much, because there's not much to respond to, it might become moribund.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 25, 2016 23:41:08 GMT
we lose influence? I think we started with no influence, so we're in deep doo if we've lost some
less silly chat here = I prefer to stay here
some like the Blackthorn, some like to stand in front of the stands, some like a nice comfy seat. All valid options IMO
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Post by Bridgeman on Jan 25, 2016 23:42:00 GMT
I registered on here (the old version) before the OF closed down. I stayed on here when Gaschat was set up and when the new version of the forum was created, and later joined Gaschat too, but I said on both forums that we should merge. No-one seemed to agree with me, but I felt that we lose influence and shared knowledge if we split into two main forums. I still read this forum, but it seems all the team and stadium news is coming from Gaschat now, and this forum is feeding off that. The number of posts and posters is declining. That's a real shame. I still think we should merge. I think Gaschat would have no problem with that whatsover, but a few proud people here, maintaining their independence, wouldn't want it. Which is silly, since we're all cut loose from the OF now. There is a lot of silly chat over there, but since recent tightening up by the mods recently, a lot less personal abuse. In fact almost none. I do think this forum is currently suffering. With so many good posters on here not responding much, because there's not much to respond to, it might become moribund. There are as you quite rightly accuse this forum of having, many good posters, they're good because they consider they don't have to reply to every minutiae posted here. They just appear to have a greater maturity about their posts and don't get half so excited about disagreements, so not so much moribund but chilled (or perhaps snoozing until shaken ). No problem about merging the forums I'm sure we'd make them very welcome here wouldn't we (oi, wake up at the back there !)
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Post by mrbluesky on Jan 25, 2016 23:53:59 GMT
but going back to the original post why is this forum dropping back in numbers viewing and posting while gaschat seems to gain in strength despite some of the crazy arguments etc on there? I can't speak for all regulars on here but I would guess they will be losing no sleep on how many people read the forum and how it compares to the Gaschat playground. Another poster mentioned that this forum tends to attract the older supporter, I tend to agree with that, generally speaking it feels that way, and quality over quantity is why I only use this forum, no huge threads polluted with non relevant trash on what are supposed to be serious issues at the club. What people tend to struggle with when they find this forum, and bang the drum about the other forum being a happier more positive place (which it isn't), is the difference between optimism and trust, I am optimistic in life and have every reason to have to be, on the other hand there has been no shortage of reasons to not trust in the current chairman, if NH delivers a debt free stadium to the original spec he will get all the plaudits he deserves, and if i met the bloke in person i would thank him, congratulate him on his achievement, after the Cheltenham lies, the Kev Spencer episode and numerous other poor decisions made solely by the chairman its a case of speak as you find, not just say nice things to have 'optimistic status'. What is hard to understand is why viewing numbers are in question, who really cares in the big scheme of things? Does it really matter? Lets just hope that the rumours are true that the club is in talks with a consortium who are in a position to ensure a long term secure future for the club in a volatile industry, and a new stadium and player investment becomes a reality, that's about the only thing I care about at Rovers because IMO 2016 will soon become the most important year in the clubs history in hindsight and I hope NH makes the right decision for the good of the FC, and as for who reads the breaking news and what forum each supporter read the news on is as good as irrelevant. very good points made by you,,its just that i have noticed this forum has been fairly inactive in recent times compared to say 18 months ago but as you say numbers arnt everything
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