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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 11:40:00 GMT
Paying out the rugby club ten grand for their entire share isn't shafting them? Yeah right you are. I'm sure you might think it isn't.
Normal unbiased folk would likely differ.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Dec 17, 2015 11:45:37 GMT
Paying out the rugby club ten grand for their entire share isn't shafting them? Yeah right you are. I'm sure you might think it isn't. Normal unbiased folk would likely differ. We paid the market value for 100% of the mem for a 50% share, the clause was to protect both parties. If we hadn't bought it both parties would have been evicted. Unfortunately Steve lansdown hadn't decided he liked rugby back then!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 11:49:46 GMT
Speaking here as a fan of the rugby club I'm thrilled they are part of the Bristol Sport banner and play in a rejuvenated stadium that the city can be proud of. However the whole memorial stadium saga I still find appalling to this day. You'll never convince me you acted with integrity. It was shameful.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Dec 17, 2015 11:52:31 GMT
Speaking here as a fan of the rugby club I'm thrilled they are part of the Bristol Sport banner and play in a rejuvenated stadium that the city can be proud of. However the whole memorial stadium saga I still find appalling to this day. You'll never convince me you acted with integrity. It was shameful. Yeah shameful to pay market value for the whole site in exchange for 50%, only asking for protection should the other party go bust.
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Post by trunky on Dec 17, 2015 12:39:05 GMT
Speaking here as a fan of the rugby club I'm thrilled they are part of the Bristol Sport banner and play in a rejuvenated stadium that the city can be proud of. However the whole memorial stadium saga I still find appalling to this day. You'll never convince me you acted with integrity. It was shameful. That wasn't shameful I will tell you what was shameful, in 1982 a certain football club threatened several of its players telling them that if they didn't tear up their contracts and accept half of what they were due they would get nothing and as at the time they were being intimidated by their inbred fans they didn't have much choice. They eventually went into administration and ignored their debts meaning the milkman stationary suppliers catering companies etc were not paid. How can you compare that with us taking advantage of a legally binding contract.
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Post by kentgas on Dec 17, 2015 12:47:14 GMT
Speaking here as a fan of the rugby club I'm thrilled they are part of the Bristol Sport banner and play in a rejuvenated stadium that the city can be proud of. However the whole memorial stadium saga I still find appalling to this day. You'll never convince me you acted with integrity. It was shameful. Yeah shameful to pay market value for the whole site in exchange for 50%, only asking for protection should the other party go bust. Perfect summary of the true situation. What is so difficult for people to understand?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 17, 2015 13:17:28 GMT
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And me!
We agree, Kaiser! Now just drop one place in May and we'll celebrate together..
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Post by matealotblue on Dec 17, 2015 14:02:05 GMT
Speaking here as a fan of the rugby club I'm thrilled they are part of the Bristol Sport banner and play in a rejuvenated stadium that the city can be proud of. However the whole memorial stadium saga I still find appalling to this day. You'll never convince me you acted with integrity. It was shameful. That wasn't shameful I will tell you what was shameful, in 1982 a certain football club threatened several of its players telling them that if they didn't tear up their contracts and accept half of what they were due they would get nothing and as at the time they were being intimidated by their inbred fans they didn't have much choice. They eventually went into administration and ignored their debts meaning the milkman stationary suppliers catering companies etc were not paid. How can you compare that with us taking advantage of a legally binding contract. And - as always - it always goes quiet when that is mentioned. Seems our in bred friends only want to use one argument and forget their history. Oh and they always forget that this so called saga with the rugby club was a contract freely entered into by both parties with the full and certain knowledge of the other party and was enacted as envisaged when the event happened. And the problem is.....??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 14:37:34 GMT
Paying out the rugby club ten grand for their entire share isn't shafting them? Yeah right you are. I'm sure you might think it isn't. Normal unbiased folk would likely differ. You're making yourself look a bit silly now. The bank inserted that clause as part of the mortgage package. Happy to be corrected, but I don't think that they legally owned their half any longer, it was in the hands of the administrator. Now, clear your little head and think about 2 things. 1. Would Lansdown have acted any differently if he had the option to purchase half of the stadium for a peppercorn sum, and would your red mates have marched in protest had he done so? 2. How many local traders did your disgrace of a club shaft when they went bust?
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Post by brizzle on Dec 17, 2015 14:46:41 GMT
Speaking here as a fan of the rugby club I'm thrilled they are part of the Bristol Sport banner and play in a rejuvenated stadium that the city can be proud of. However the whole memorial stadium saga I still find appalling to this day. You'll never convince me you acted with integrity. It was shameful. That wasn't shameful I will tell you what was shameful, in 1982 a certain football club threatened several of its players telling them that if they didn't tear up their contracts and accept half of what they were due they would get nothing and as at the time they were being intimidated by their inbred fans they didn't have much choice. They eventually went into administration and ignored their debts meaning the milkman stationary suppliers catering companies etc were not paid. How can you compare that with us taking advantage of a legally binding contract. Excellent resumé that. But it probably does make for uncomfortable reading for our neighbours south of the river, who would prefer to forget that the episode ever happened. Just for the record the eight players that were made an offer that they could not refuse were Geoff Merrick, Gerry Sweeney, Trevor Tainton, Julian Marshall, Peter Aitken, Chris Garland, David Rodgers and Jimmy Mann. They were all excellent servants to their club by the way. If anyone who supports the other mob would care to either educate themselves (or refresh their memory), then the linked article will give them the full rundown as to how the situation evolved. It does not make for comfortable reading, particularly if you happen to support B*FC. But the truth is out there, and we should all remind ourselves of it sometimes . . . particularly when our near neighbours start throwing mud about. soccersouls.com/2013/12/04/bristol-city-and-ashton-gate-eight/So rather than giving us your opinion on how BRFC acquired The Mem kaiserbcfc, perhaps you might give us your opinion on the eight unfortunate players involved. One question though, are you old enough to remember it actually happening, and if so how did you feel at the time?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 14:52:12 GMT
Speaking here as a fan of the rugby club I'm thrilled they are part of the Bristol Sport banner and play in a rejuvenated stadium that the city can be proud of. However the whole memorial stadium saga I still find appalling to this day. You'll never convince me you acted with integrity. It was shameful. That wasn't shameful I will tell you what was shameful, in 1982 a certain football club threatened several of its players telling them that if they didn't tear up their contracts and accept half of what they were due they would get nothing and as at the time they were being intimidated by their inbred fans they didn't have much choice. They eventually went into administration and ignored their debts meaning the milkman stationary suppliers catering companies etc were not paid. How can you compare that with us taking advantage of a legally binding contract. I don't think any of them got half, far from it, soccersouls.com/2013/12/04/bristol-city-and-ashton-gate-eight/Edit. Sorry Brizzle, you beat me to it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 15:18:03 GMT
Nothing like sticking with current events. You're talking about a time when my granddad and old man were regulars down there and I was 2 years old...
Maybe a little more recent???
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 15:27:41 GMT
Nothing like sticking with current events. You're talking about a time when my granddad and old man were regulars down there and I was 2 years old... Maybe a little more recent??? Good shout. Recently, your mob got twatted by Derby, you could say Rammed. Your mob are on a slide into League 1. We'll see you next season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 15:30:38 GMT
Nothing like sticking with current events. You're talking about a time when my granddad and old man were regulars down there and I was 2 years old... Maybe a little more recent??? Oh, so you aren't called 1982 Ltd any more? The agreement (freely entered into by Bristol Rugby) was dated nearer to 1982 than 2015. Maybe a little more research before shouting the odds?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 16:12:04 GMT
Nothing like sticking with current events. You're talking about a time when my granddad and old man were regulars down there and I was 2 years old... Maybe a little more recent??? Good shout. Recently, your mob got twatted by Derby, you could say Rammed. Your mob are on a slide into League 1. We'll see you next season. A side very likely to be in the Premier League next season. We won't go down, there's far worse sides than us for the 2 places with Bolton. The gap between the two Bristol clubs will remain pretty sizeable. Out of interest how many points do you reckon your current side would get v Hull, Middlesbrough, Wolves and Forest? We got 10....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 16:21:06 GMT
Good shout. Recently, your mob got twatted by Derby, you could say Rammed. Your mob are on a slide into League 1. We'll see you next season. A side very likely to be in the Premier League next season. We won't go down, there's far worse sides than us for the 2 places with Bolton. The gap between the two Bristol clubs will remain pretty sizeable. Out of interest how many points do you reckon your current side would get v Hull, Middlesbrough, Wolves and Forest? We got 10.... A sure sign of a relegation side is when they always look capable of putting a run together but just can't quite manage it. We should know, the squad that took us out of the League was good enough to get us promoted to L1. As Faustus says, see you next season. The gap then can't be more than 22 clubs between us. What would that equate to, £2,000,000 per place over the last decade? Money well spent.
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Post by ipswichrover on Dec 17, 2015 16:26:01 GMT
Speaking here as a fan of the rugby club I'm thrilled they are part of the Bristol Sport banner and play in a rejuvenated stadium that the city can be proud of. However the whole memorial stadium saga I still find appalling to this day. You'll never convince me you acted with integrity. It was shameful. When Rovers left Eastville for Twerton, it was asked in the Post why they couldn't just play at the Mem. A person speaking on behalf of the rugby club (their then chairman I think) came out with a line about how the stadium was a memorial to Rugby players, so couldn't possibly therefore allow football there, blah blah, blah. When the rugby club got into financial trouble in the professional era, all the snobby tosh of ten years before was forgotten and somehow it was ok to have those soccer oiks as tenants. The rugby club DIDN'T take Rovers in our true hour of need (1986) and only did so in 1996 due to money (or their lack of it) not out of some new found love of their round ball brethren. They then struck a business deal regarding the ground with Rovers, when they again fell into more financial trouble. You're right it was shameful. Shameful how the rugby club you are a fan of ran its finances so badly it lost its ground and now its identity too. The two clubs you support really do deserve each other. Anyway, back to the real topic, long may Mr Cotterill brighten our Saturday evenings.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 16:30:52 GMT
Good shout. Recently, your mob got twatted by Derby, you could say Rammed. Your mob are on a slide into League 1. We'll see you next season. A side very likely to be in the Premier League next season. We won't go down, there's far worse sides than us for the 2 places with Bolton. The gap between the two Bristol clubs will remain pretty sizeable. Out of interest how many points do you reckon your current side would get v Hull, Middlesbrough, Wolves and Forest? We got 10.... We have only played Birmingham lost 2-1,how did you get on against them again. How many points did you pick up verses MK Dons,Rotherham,Preston and the impressive Fulham
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Post by percypiecrust on Dec 17, 2015 16:39:26 GMT
I think kaiserbcfc must be Steve Cotterell's love child. At least we all have something in common, that is Cotterell MUST stay at Trashton Gate. Only 2 more days for our next performance from Bristol's best comedian. Can't wait for this weeks amazing performance, must get the tissues ready. I bet his wife must love Saturday nights when she see's his bright, chirpy face coming through the front door!!!
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Post by topman on Dec 17, 2015 16:44:04 GMT
Anyway let gets back on topic??
In all my years of watching football rarely have I come across such a Jekyll and Hyde as Mr S C ...... all wonderful when your shower achieve a good result but an absolute pig of a person when you lose - rude to interviewers / never HIS fault always the players / referees etc
Truly horrible and don't try to cover it over by saying he is passionate etc - the guy is just ignorant. At least when we have played poorly DC will not hide behind matters and tries to be dignified in winning and also in defeat
In reality Mr S C reflects your fanbase and club
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