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Post by Igitur on Nov 29, 2015 10:01:10 GMT
I rarely get excited by threads like these any more, after all there were only 7 members on the forum when writing this and few were in agreement. We all have views and some are more extreme than others. The team is miles away from 'crisis' which is the word used by the tabloids to describe a single loss of a Premier side. We have only lost 3 of the last 10 league games, fewer than 1 team in the play offs, the team and manager are still learning and after all we are higher than the other promoted team, Barnet.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 29, 2015 11:03:51 GMT
- How was the goal (once again) Nicholls fault?! - Kind of hard to score a winner with 5 seconds left. - We were exceptional today. You only had to listen to the game to establish that. Agree with your first 2 points. Exceptional? Well we only scored one goal & the Exeter fans I spoke to afterwards did say we played far better than them but could only remember thier keeper making 2 good saves. Perhaps Exceptional doesn't mean what it used to. Same old today lots of possession lots of corners and a lack of goals. Which is from someone who actually watched the game, thankfully from the dry old stand.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Nov 29, 2015 12:12:15 GMT
Played well yesterday but notice watching the FL show this morning that other Div 2 clubs have players on loan from;Arsenal,Spurs and Swansea.Should we be aiming higher than Millwall and Cambridge for our loanees?
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Post by lympstonegas on Nov 29, 2015 12:26:32 GMT
Guys.. I know a draw from home is usually a good result but the manor we are conceding goals recently is embarrassing. When we go behind or go level we just don't have the team morale like we did last season and I know we're a league above but I'm sorry that's not an acceptable excuse. We're in league two for a reason and we MUST compete! We had 20 seconds to go and they equalised. I'm sorry it's not acceptable and I'd say Nicholls needs to leave ASAP. Don't ha the team Morale - so there aren't supporting each other on or off the ball, passing to each other, fighting for the shirt team club talking to each other or demonstrating a togetherness in a work ethic - sorry, an amazing statement and posting
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 29, 2015 17:01:03 GMT
Guys.. I know a draw from home is usually a good result but the manor we are conceding goals recently is embarrassing. When we go behind or go level we just don't have the team morale like we did last season and I know we're a league above but I'm sorry that's not an acceptable excuse. We're in league two for a reason and we MUST compete! We had 20 seconds to go and they equalised. I'm sorry it's not acceptable and I'd say Nicholls needs to leave ASAP. Disagree. Think there is a lot of resilience in the team. They battled right up to the end. Last minute was disappointing but it happens and the team put in a shift today in poor conditions. We do have the team morale and away from home we really do compete. But we are all entitled to an opinion. Evidence esp away from home tells me the morale is good and just to see Sinclair battle for the team lifts spirits. They did score right at end but sometimes you don't get what you deserve. Big breath, get over it and move on to next match. UTG!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 29, 2015 17:46:47 GMT
Guys.. I know a draw from home is usually a good result but the manor we are conceding goals recently is embarrassing. When we go behind or go level we just don't have the team morale like we did last season and I know we're a league above but I'm sorry that's not an acceptable excuse. We're in league two for a reason and we MUST compete! We had 20 seconds to go and they equalised. I'm sorry it's not acceptable and I'd say Nicholls needs to leave ASAP. By that comment you appear not to have been at the game. The goal being conceded was absolutely nothing to do with Nicholls. I was gutted for the manager and players, they had put in a real shift with some outstanding performances from a number of players and in the atrocious conditions Nicholls did all he had to do including one shot that was dipping all over the place before he managed to push it away. We had more shots than them, we had more shots on target than them, we had more corners than them and according to the Exeter fans I spoke to we played far better than them too, we certainly managed the conditions better than they did. We conceded from a miss hit cross and a miss hit shot....I'm getting fed up of people constantly blaming the goalie when it clearly wasn't his fault I had written a long post, on what does it take for us fans to genuinely be happy enough and enjoy just going to games. I read it and then cut it, kept it in my little black book of musings. It was far too self indulgent, I think lol i remember, when we got promoted to league 1 & most were very happy but that soon gave way to the perpetual moaners, I know I am critical now but it wasn't always so. When I first joined the old official club forum I was actually voted best newcomer and most positive poster, believe that ! i think that even if we did achieve championship, we would still have many that felt we were not doing enough and it made me wonder just where others would like us to be and if they would be happy with that ? For me, it's L1 & being in with a chance of promotion each season. I saw how much more aligned we were, when we got relegated to non league. It certainly made me realise that it really doesn't matter what league but that we are seen to be successful within that league. Personally I feel anticlimactic about this season as I hoped we would use the boost for last year and be right up there by now. I know that is definitely a high expectation but other teams, teams that have fewer fans and a lower fan base, have managed to get back to back promotions, so why couldn't we ? It seems that the blame culture has emanated right from the top of the club and this has had a trickle down effect within the fanbase. I now see very little that separates us from that lot down the road and when some get their teeth into an individual player, they can be relentless. I would just really like to enjoy going to games and get back to hearing the gallows humour that attracted me to Rovers in the first place. A question to all of you, where woukd you like us to be and be happy with it ?
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 29, 2015 19:41:05 GMT
By that comment you appear not to have been at the game. The goal being conceded was absolutely nothing to do with Nicholls. I was gutted for the manager and players, they had put in a real shift with some outstanding performances from a number of players and in the atrocious conditions Nicholls did all he had to do including one shot that was dipping all over the place before he managed to push it away. We had more shots than them, we had more shots on target than them, we had more corners than them and according to the Exeter fans I spoke to we played far better than them too, we certainly managed the conditions better than they did. We conceded from a miss hit cross and a miss hit shot....I'm getting fed up of people constantly blaming the goalie when it clearly wasn't his fault I had written a long post, on what does it take for us fans to genuinely be happy enough and enjoy just going to games. I read it and then cut it, kept it in my little black book of musings. It was far too self indulgent, I think lol i remember, when we got promoted to league 1 & most were very happy but that soon gave way to the perpetual moaners, I know I am critical now but it wasn't always so. When I first joined the old official club forum I was actually voted best newcomer and most positive poster, believe that ! i think that even if we did achieve championship, we would still have many that felt we were not doing enough and it made me wonder just where others would like us to be and if they would be happy with that ? For me, it's L1 & being in with a chance of promotion each season. I saw how much more aligned we were, when we got relegated to non league. It certainly made me realise that it really doesn't matter what league but that we are seen to be successful within that league. Personally I feel anticlimactic about this season as I hoped we would use the boost for last year and be right up there by now. I know that is definitely a high expectation but other teams, teams that have fewer fans and a lower fan base, have managed to get back to back promotions, so why couldn't we ? It seems that the blame culture has emanated right from the top of the club and this has had a trickle down effect within the fanbase. I now see very little that separates us from that lot down the road and when some get their teeth into an individual player, they can be relentless. I would just really like to enjoy going to games and get back to hearing the gallows humour that attracted me to Rovers in the first place. A question to all of you, where woukd you like us to be and be happy with it ? Good posts BM and KWP. Yes agree about expectations.... we should be L1 and in chance of promotion/play-offs. Anything else is over achieving and beyond what I would expect. Mind you a season or two in Championship would be good! Perhaps my expectations match when I first saw Rovers in League 3 shooting for promotion in 1966-67 beating that great QPR team but losing home to Workington!! UTG!
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Post by brizzle on Nov 29, 2015 19:47:49 GMT
By that comment you appear not to have been at the game. The goal being conceded was absolutely nothing to do with Nicholls. I was gutted for the manager and players, they had put in a real shift with some outstanding performances from a number of players and in the atrocious conditions Nicholls did all he had to do including one shot that was dipping all over the place before he managed to push it away. We had more shots than them, we had more shots on target than them, we had more corners than them and according to the Exeter fans I spoke to we played far better than them too, we certainly managed the conditions better than they did. We conceded from a miss hit cross and a miss hit shot....I'm getting fed up of people constantly blaming the goalie when it clearly wasn't his fault I had written a long post, on what does it take for us fans to genuinely be happy enough and enjoy just going to games. I read it and then cut it, kept it in my little black book of musings. It was far too self indulgent, I think lol i remember, when we got promoted to league 1 & most were very happy but that soon gave way to the perpetual moaners, I know I am critical now but it wasn't always so. When I first joined the old official club forum I was actually voted best newcomer and most positive poster, believe that ! i think that even if we did achieve championship, we would still have many that felt we were not doing enough and it made me wonder just where others would like us to be and if they would be happy with that ? For me, it's L1 & being in with a chance of promotion each season. I saw how much more aligned we were, when we got relegated to non league. It certainly made me realise that it really doesn't matter what league but that we are seen to be successful within that league. Personally I feel anticlimactic about this season as I hoped we would use the boost for last year and be right up there by now. I know that is definitely a high expectation but other teams, teams that have fewer fans and a lower fan base, have managed to get back to back promotions, so why couldn't we ? It seems that the blame culture has emanated right from the top of the club and this has had a trickle down effect within the fanbase. I now see very little that separates us from that lot down the road and when some get their teeth into an individual player, they can be relentless. I would just really like to enjoy going to games and get back to hearing the gallows humour that attracted me to Rovers in the first place. A question to all of you, where woukd you like us to be and be happy with it ? I'm bound to state the obvious here KP, and say ''in our own ground.'' As regards which League, I would be happy with a place in the top half of League One, where we would be actively chasing promotion to the Championship. But the main thing is to be seeing the club playing attractive football, and progressing up the League.
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Post by Bridgeman on Nov 30, 2015 0:45:58 GMT
I had written a long post, on what does it take for us fans to genuinely be happy enough and enjoy just going to games. I read it and then cut it, kept it in my little black book of musings. It was far too self indulgent, I think lol i remember, when we got promoted to league 1 & most were very happy but that soon gave way to the perpetual moaners, I know I am critical now but it wasn't always so. When I first joined the old official club forum I was actually voted best newcomer and most positive poster, believe that ! i think that even if we did achieve championship, we would still have many that felt we were not doing enough and it made me wonder just where others would like us to be and if they would be happy with that ? For me, it's L1 & being in with a chance of promotion each season. I saw how much more aligned we were, when we got relegated to non league. It certainly made me realise that it really doesn't matter what league but that we are seen to be successful within that league. Personally I feel anticlimactic about this season as I hoped we would use the boost for last year and be right up there by now. I know that is definitely a high expectation but other teams, teams that have fewer fans and a lower fan base, have managed to get back to back promotions, so why couldn't we ? It seems that the blame culture has emanated right from the top of the club and this has had a trickle down effect within the fanbase. I now see very little that separates us from that lot down the road and when some get their teeth into an individual player, they can be relentless. I would just really like to enjoy going to games and get back to hearing the gallows humour that attracted me to Rovers in the first place. A question to all of you, where woukd you like us to be and be happy with it ? I'm bound to state the obvious here KP, and say ''in our own ground.'' As regards which League, I would be happy with a place in the top half of League One, where we would be actively chasing promotion to the Championship. But the main thing is to be seeing the club playing attractive football, and progressing up the League. I think on the whole we do, obviously not winning at home regularly I think clouds some peoples views on that.
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Post by Bridgeman on Nov 30, 2015 1:02:23 GMT
By that comment you appear not to have been at the game. The goal being conceded was absolutely nothing to do with Nicholls. I was gutted for the manager and players, they had put in a real shift with some outstanding performances from a number of players and in the atrocious conditions Nicholls did all he had to do including one shot that was dipping all over the place before he managed to push it away. We had more shots than them, we had more shots on target than them, we had more corners than them and according to the Exeter fans I spoke to we played far better than them too, we certainly managed the conditions better than they did. We conceded from a miss hit cross and a miss hit shot....I'm getting fed up of people constantly blaming the goalie when it clearly wasn't his fault I can assure you I was at the game. Who said I was blaming Nicholls for the goal? I am just saying that he is a very poor excuse for a keeper that has cost us points in 3-4 games since he's been with us. I've never watched a keeper who is scared to dive for the ball.I thought it was implied...."Nicholls needs to leave as soon as possible ?" sorry if I misinterpreted your comment. Did you not see him dive to shepherd the ball round the post in the first half and also his excellent save in the 2nd half diving full length to push the ball away from goal ? I guess we all see or ignore what we want to in a game, I do it all the time
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 30, 2015 21:00:37 GMT
I had written a long post, on what does it take for us fans to genuinely be happy enough and enjoy just going to games. I read it and then cut it, kept it in my little black book of musings. It was far too self indulgent, I think lol i remember, when we got promoted to league 1 & most were very happy but that soon gave way to the perpetual moaners, I know I am critical now but it wasn't always so. When I first joined the old official club forum I was actually voted best newcomer and most positive poster, believe that ! i think that even if we did achieve championship, we would still have many that felt we were not doing enough and it made me wonder just where others would like us to be and if they would be happy with that ? For me, it's L1 & being in with a chance of promotion each season. I saw how much more aligned we were, when we got relegated to non league. It certainly made me realise that it really doesn't matter what league but that we are seen to be successful within that league. Personally I feel anticlimactic about this season as I hoped we would use the boost for last year and be right up there by now. I know that is definitely a high expectation but other teams, teams that have fewer fans and a lower fan base, have managed to get back to back promotions, so why couldn't we ? It seems that the blame culture has emanated right from the top of the club and this has had a trickle down effect within the fanbase. I now see very little that separates us from that lot down the road and when some get their teeth into an individual player, they can be relentless. I would just really like to enjoy going to games and get back to hearing the gallows humour that attracted me to Rovers in the first place. A question to all of you, where woukd you like us to be and be happy with it ? I'm bound to state the obvious here KP, and say ''in our own ground.'' As regards which League, I would be happy with a place in the top half of League One, where we would be actively chasing promotion to the Championship. But the main thing is to be seeing the club playing attractive football, and progressing up the League. I know it's easy to romanticise but I always felt entertained at Eastville and especially in the Megson years. Yes, it felt very good
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 30, 2015 21:29:49 GMT
Guys.. I know a draw from home is usually a good result but the manor we are conceding goals recently is embarrassing. When we go behind or go level we just don't have the team morale like we did last season and I know we're a league above but I'm sorry that's not an acceptable excuse. We're in league two for a reason and we MUST compete! We had 20 seconds to go and they equalised. I'm sorry it's not acceptable and I'd say Nicholls needs to leave ASAP. The implied criticism of Nicholls in your post is strange. Had you made the comment after Chesham or Newport, whilst I would disagree over your opinion of Nicholls as a keeper, I would have understood it. But to make it after Saturday when he had a very good game at Exeter, making some excellent saves, is a tad strange. He certainly divides opinion and ultimately he's going back to Wigan so will be forgotten in a few weeks time. I just hope managers from teams we may hope to loan keepers from don't decide against loaning them to us because young players go back with their confidence shot from fan criticism. UTG!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 21:31:57 GMT
I'd be quite delighted if we were totally unable to ever loan-in a goalkeeper ever again.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 30, 2015 21:34:45 GMT
I'd be quite delighted if we were totally unable to ever loan-in a goalkeeper ever again. So would I!! But I don't think Joe Hart is for sale at the moment so we may have to settle for a loanee! UTG!
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Post by gasshole on Nov 30, 2015 22:08:23 GMT
Personally i dont care what division we are in. Main thing is that you are able to win lots of home games, ergo entertain/ reward/ keep your paying customers.As a kid at Eastville thats what i remember, a fortnightly away defeat was standard, and quickly forgotten by tea time. By the time triffle was served my only concern was Dr Who battling the Daleks.
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Post by Bridgeman on Dec 1, 2015 3:08:11 GMT
I'd be quite delighted if we were totally unable to ever loan-in a goalkeeper ever again. So you'd fancy our chances playing 11 outfield players then, although McChrystal didn't do too bad a job away to Wrexham
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2015 7:27:35 GMT
I'd be quite delighted if we were totally unable to ever loan-in a goalkeeper ever again. So you'd fancy our chances playing 11 outfield players then, although McChrystal didn't do too bad a job away to Wrexham I'd make sure we always had 2 keepers plus a kid we could actually use in reserve, and I'd ban them from getting injured all at the same time.
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Post by brizzle on Dec 1, 2015 9:32:02 GMT
I'm bound to state the obvious here KP, and say ''in our own ground.'' As regards which League, I would be happy with a place in the top half of League One, where we would be actively chasing promotion to the Championship. But the main thing is to be seeing the club playing attractive football, and progressing up the League. I know it's easy to romanticise but I always felt entertained at Eastville and especially in the Megson years. Yes, it felt very good EASTVILLE FOR ENTERTAINMENT!
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Post by trunky on Dec 1, 2015 10:12:16 GMT
Guys.. I know a draw from home is usually a good result but the manor we are conceding goals recently is embarrassing. When we go behind or go level we just don't have the team morale like we did last season and I know we're a league above but I'm sorry that's not an acceptable excuse. We're in league two for a reason and we MUST compete! We had 20 seconds to go and they equalised. I'm sorry it's not acceptable and I'd say Nicholls needs to leave ASAP. The implied criticism of Nicholls in your post is strange. Had you made the comment after Chesham or Newport, whilst I would disagree over your opinion of Nicholls as a keeper, I would have understood it. But to make it after Saturday when he had a very good game at Exeter, making some excellent saves, is a tad strange. He certainly divides opinion and ultimately he's going back to Wigan so will be forgotten in a few weeks time. I just hope managers from teams we may hope to loan keepers from don't decide against loaning them to us because young players go back with their confidence shot from fan criticism. UTG!! The very fact that he divides opinion is a bad sign the one position on the pitch where you must be reasonably consistent is goalkeeper and having a blinder one week and throwing two in your net the next week is a recipe for disaster.We must get a new keeper in as a major priority.
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Post by faggotygas on Dec 1, 2015 12:12:15 GMT
Personally i dont care what division we are in. Main thing is that you are able to win lots of home games, ergo entertain/ reward/ keep your paying customers.As a kid at Eastville thats what i remember, a fortnightly away defeat was standard, and quickly forgotten by tea time. By the time triffle was served my only concern was Dr Who battling the Daleks. Iimagine you were delighted with relegation to the conference then?
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