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Post by crater on Oct 13, 2015 18:26:50 GMT
You're going to need it
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Post by Rex on Oct 13, 2015 18:44:16 GMT
I think he will do relatively well there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 18:46:08 GMT
He did relatively well here compared to what happened next.
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Post by crater on Oct 13, 2015 19:07:28 GMT
He got us to 91st in the football league so not really more sucessful. Awful manager who signed his mates on expensive contracts.
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 13, 2015 19:19:31 GMT
what crater said
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Post by Rex on Oct 13, 2015 19:27:21 GMT
He got us to 91st in the football league so not really more sucessful. Awful manager who signed his mates on expensive contracts. I'm not sure Kenneth and Riordan were his mates, they just happened to be Scottish.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Oct 13, 2015 19:32:39 GMT
Motherunwell
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Post by irishrover on Oct 13, 2015 19:40:24 GMT
Well I imagine they are pretty happy to have him back at Motherwell given that he did an absolutely tremendous job there last time around. In fact apart from the 1 year he had with us his record as a manager is pretty superb.
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Post by fanatical on Oct 14, 2015 7:43:22 GMT
Well I imagine they are pretty happy to have him back at Motherwell given that he did an absolutely tremendous job there last time around. In fact apart from the 1 year he had with us his record as a manager is pretty superb. Isn't it amazing how many good and previously successful managers failed at Rovers - nothing to do with their employers by any chance??
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Post by Richard on Oct 14, 2015 8:30:01 GMT
I'm no fan of the board by any means but even they wouldn't have condoned playing Adam Virgo upfront or Parkes left wing!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 14, 2015 10:47:29 GMT
McGhoo lost the plot in the twilight of his tenure with us.
A shame, because the previous season we ended on a high when he was appointed and we looked on a new season with relish..
But the close season long courting of ***ts able set the course for decline, coupled with a woefully unprepared start to season with no goalkeeper! Incredible?!
Hang on.... (?)
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 14, 2015 10:49:41 GMT
Anyway, I bear mm no grudge. Good luck to him and hope he f*cks around with his mother well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 10:58:27 GMT
He's not a bad manager.
Is it any surprise the last two successful managers we've had (Trollope & Clarke) were put in coaching positions by footballing men (Atkins & Ward).
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Post by brizzle on Oct 14, 2015 11:11:41 GMT
Well I imagine they are pretty happy to have him back at Motherwell given that he did an absolutely tremendous job there last time around. In fact apart from the 1 year he had with us his record as a manager is pretty superb. . . . and I think that this is the major factor in our opinion of him as a manager. But in any event Motherwell seem delighted to have him on board so I'm pleased for them. From the Motherwell website . . . www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2015/10/13/mark-mcghee-returns-as-motherwell-boss/I wonder if he will relocate back to Scotland now? I think that he will need to, to give himself the best chance of succeeding.
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Post by Wreckless on Oct 14, 2015 18:43:59 GMT
Good luck to Motherwell.
I would put him and Buckle as the worst managers we've had in my time supporting the Gas (ie since 1971).
Riordan, Kenneth, Paterson, Branston are right up there in a list of our worst ever performers - none of whom even looked as if they were up for the fight that we were in at the time.
Apart from Eaves (on loan), I can think of almost no positives from his period in charge. That said, I think he may have introduced Tom Parkes to our first team... I'd give him credit for that, but I don't think anyone else from that time remains in our squad (reflecting the fact that they just weren't very good).
Terrible recruitment, tactically awful, playing people out of position, totally bereft of ideas....
Some of the worst performances I have ever seen by a Rovers team. I still shiver when I think about AFC Wimbledon Away.
In my view he was the one who created the environment that led to us losing our league status 12 months later.
He seems to have maintained this level of performance with the Scottish national team.
Apparently this track record is appropriate to management in the top level of Scottish football....
So - Good luck to Motherwell.
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Post by strung out on Oct 14, 2015 20:42:27 GMT
Good luck to Motherwell. I would put him and Buckle as the worst managers we've had in my time supporting the Gas (ie since 1971). Riordan, Kenneth, Paterson, Branston are right up there in a list of our worst ever performers - none of whom even looked as if they were up for the fight that we were in at the time. Apart from Eaves (on loan), I can think of almost no positives from his period in charge. That said, I think he may have introduced Tom Parkes to our first team... I'd give him credit for that, but I don't think anyone else from that time remains in our squad (reflecting the fact that they just weren't very good). Terrible recruitment, tactically awful, playing people out of position, totally bereft of ideas.... Some of the worst performances I have ever seen by a Rovers team. I still shiver when I think about AFC Wimbledon Away. In my view he was the one who created the environment that led to us losing our league status 12 months later. He seems to have maintained this level of performance with the Scottish national team. Apparently this track record is appropriate to management in the top level of Scottish football.... So - Good luck to Motherwell. W8 D6 L6 That's his record from his results in the 2011/12 season - 30 points from a possible 60, compared to 26 from 78 before that. It all went to s**t the season after, but there were some excellent moments when he first started.
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Post by barleycorn48 on Oct 15, 2015 9:49:29 GMT
David Clarkson rejoined Motherwell in June this year.Its where he started his career,
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Post by brizzle on Oct 15, 2015 11:20:06 GMT
Good luck to Motherwell. I would put him and Buckle as the worst managers we've had in my time supporting the Gas (ie since 1971). Riordan, Kenneth, Paterson, Branston are right up there in a list of our worst ever performers - none of whom even looked as if they were up for the fight that we were in at the time. Apart from Eaves (on loan), I can think of almost no positives from his period in charge. That said, I think he may have introduced Tom Parkes to our first team... I'd give him credit for that, but I don't think anyone else from that time remains in our squad (reflecting the fact that they just weren't very good). Terrible recruitment, tactically awful, playing people out of position, totally bereft of ideas.... Some of the worst performances I have ever seen by a Rovers team. I still shiver when I think about AFC Wimbledon Away. In my view he was the one who created the environment that led to us losing our league status 12 months later. He seems to have maintained this level of performance with the Scottish national team. Apparently this track record is appropriate to management in the top level of Scottish football.... So - Good luck to Motherwell. W8 D6 L6 That's his record from his results in the 2011/12 season - 30 points from a possible 60, compared to 26 from 78 before that. It all went to s*** the season after, but there were some excellent moments when he first started. I remember there being a thread on the old forum at the time, and it was generally agreed (as you say) that MM's first season here was encouraging. But in the close season he took himself off to his home in Brighton, and didn't do the necessary work in the trasnsfer market to give us much of a chance the following season. If you remember there was a thread devoted to where MM had been spotted in the Bristol area in that period, all good fun of course. But the serious point here is that when he did finally return to Bristol, we never did get going . . . for whatever reason.
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Post by irishrover on Oct 15, 2015 12:52:34 GMT
W8 D6 L6 That's his record from his results in the 2011/12 season - 30 points from a possible 60, compared to 26 from 78 before that. It all went to s*** the season after, but there were some excellent moments when he first started. I remember there being a thread on the old forum at the time, and it was generally agreed (as you say) that MM's first season here was encouraging. But in the close season he took himself off to his home in Brighton, and didn't do the necessary work in the trasnsfer market to give us much of a chance the following season. If you remember there was a thread devoted to where MM had been spotted in the Bristol area in that period, all good fun of course. But the serious point here is that when he did finally return to Bristol, we never did get going . . . for whatever reason. Absolutely - no doubting that he was an absolute disaster with us and there have been some truth in the rumour that his heart wasn't really in it. But that doesn't change the fact that we are really the only blot on his copybook - he has had as successful a career as anyone who has managed us in recent years and there's no reason to think that he won't do well at Motherwell really.
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Post by brizzle on Oct 15, 2015 15:20:01 GMT
I remember there being a thread on the old forum at the time, and it was generally agreed (as you say) that MM's first season here was encouraging. But in the close season he took himself off to his home in Brighton, and didn't do the necessary work in the trasnsfer market to give us much of a chance the following season. If you remember there was a thread devoted to where MM had been spotted in the Bristol area in that period, all good fun of course. But the serious point here is that when he did finally return to Bristol, we never did get going . . . for whatever reason. Absolutely - no doubting that he was an absolute disaster with us and there have been some truth in the rumour that his heart wasn't really in it. But that doesn't change the fact that we are really the only blot on his copybook - he has had as successful a career as anyone who has managed us in recent years and there's no reason to think that he won't do well at Motherwell really. Speaking as one of MM's staunchest supporters on here at that time, I fully agree with you. I was desperate for him to do well here, probably because there was a link in my mind between his name and reputation within the game, and what he might bring to us in the way of contacts, signings etc. The record shows that he got off to a fairly solid kind of start, well good enough to encourage me that he might do something for us the following season. I've always believed that something happened in that close-season, perhaps it was the size of the transfer budget allocated to him by the club, or perhaps he was too heavily involved in helping to run his wife's business. Who knows? In any event he didn't seem to turn up for the following season, and the rest (and they say) is history. I don't know if it was stupidity or stubborness on my part, but I refused to accept that he couldn't turn us around until the final game, or thereabouts. Whether the fault (if there is one of course) lies with him or the club is really a moot point now, the fact remains that we continued our downward spiral, but thankfully the corpse is showing signs of life once again.
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