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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 15:19:50 GMT
I was reading a few months ago about Cambridge United testing fans for alcohol before entering their ground using an alcoblow. I don't know if they are doing it this season or if it was just a trial. Apparently the limit is twice the legal driving limit,over that I assume that they class you as drunk and as its an offence to enter a designated sports ground whilst drunk I guess that they could have you arrested or just refuse you entry to the ground. I know that a lot of supprters make a day or a weekend of it and I was wondering if this scheme ever became widespread how it would change peoples habits,I guess most would cut down on drinking before a match,but would some stop going altogether ?. I think its a bit over the top (and I don't usually drink before a game),to me theres a big difference between had one to many and drunk and disorderly (not that my opinion would count at all ).
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Post by rking89 on Oct 10, 2015 15:45:59 GMT
I was reading a few months ago about Cambridge United testing fans for alcohol before entering their ground using an alcoblow. I don't know if they are doing it this season or if it was just a trial. Apparently the limit is twice the legal driving limit,over that I assume that they class you as drunk and as its an offence to enter a designated sports ground whilst drunk I guess that they could have you arrested or just refuse you entry to the ground. I know that a lot of supprters make a day or a weekend of it and I was wondering if this scheme ever became widespread how it would change peoples habits,I guess most would cut down on drinking before a match,but would some stop going altogether ?. I think its a bit over the top (and I don't usually drink before a game),to me theres a big difference between had one to many and drunk and disorderly (not that my opinion would count at all ). Part of the laws for them to work are you have to leave about 15 minutes between your last drink and being breathalysed. How many people finish their last drink and walk pretty much straight into the ground. Also how much do the clubs make on drinks and would this start putting off people from going with this on? You can sit in a pub and watch soccer Saturday or the prem on foreign channels.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 10, 2015 16:33:30 GMT
All very good and well (not!) but I bet they don't mind you being drunk if you bought all your alcohol on their concourse?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 17:41:36 GMT
I don't think they do it routinely. I'm sure anyone sensible will have no more problems there than anywhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 17:44:09 GMT
Who goes to football sober?
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Post by Bridgeman on Oct 10, 2015 18:12:47 GMT
Who goes to football sober? Ah, so that's where I'm going wrong
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 8:00:06 GMT
I was reading a few months ago about Cambridge United testing fans for alcohol before entering their ground using an alcoblow. I don't know if they are doing it this season or if it was just a trial. Apparently the limit is twice the legal driving limit,over that I assume that they class you as drunk and as its an offence to enter a designated sports ground whilst drunk I guess that they could have you arrested or just refuse you entry to the ground. I know that a lot of supprters make a day or a weekend of it and I was wondering if this scheme ever became widespread how it would change peoples habits,I guess most would cut down on drinking before a match,but would some stop going altogether ?. I think its a bit over the top (and I don't usually drink before a game),to me theres a big difference between had one to many and drunk and disorderly (not that my opinion would count at all ). Part of the laws for them to work are you have to leave about 15 minutes between your last drink and being breathalysed. How many people finish their last drink and walk pretty much straight into the ground. Also how much do the clubs make on drinks and would this start putting off people from going with this on? You can sit in a pub and watch soccer Saturday or the prem on foreign channels. I suppose they could make you wait 15 minutes outside before letting you take the test ?,one article said that they will only test people who "look drunk", oh dear. I know people who used to go to games who now go to a pub on a Saturday and watch football on tv,in fact I have been at away games and seen blokes stay in the pub instead of going to the game. Be interesting to see if the testing spreads to other grounds and how it will change peoples habits.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 11, 2015 9:33:16 GMT
I completely disagree with tho policy.
If a group or individual are causing trouble or being disruptive or abusive, then fair enough.
But some people are alcohol dependent. And drug dependent. And football dependent. So I think it's very wrong to expose a personal issue and force exclusion, when what some may need is help. Maybe by inclusion.
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 11, 2015 9:59:40 GMT
Cambridge and alcohol = a university experience to aspire to IMO
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Post by Igitur on Oct 11, 2015 10:13:03 GMT
From the BBC website:
The project, which will run indefinitely, was launched at Cambridge United's match against Burton Albion.
Anyone testing above twice the legal drink-drive limit will be ejected from the ground, but groundsman Ian Darler said fans had nothing to fear.
The scheme will also operate at Cambridge Junction and McDonald's in Rose Crescent.
Only fans who appear to be drunk are tested and passing a breath test is not necessary to enter the ground.
Mr Darler said: "Ninety-five per cent of fans will not even know the scheme is in operation".
Security staff at the venues have been given breathalyser kits allowing them to test people before entry.
Mr Darler said stewards had previously made a judgement on people they thought were drunk.
"This will give a fairer and more genuine result as to whether we eject someone," he said.
'Fairer result'
He added that only two arrests had been made at games this year.
The scheme is funded by Cambridgeshire Police and Crime Commissioner Sir Graham Bright.
Last year, in Cambridge city, 141 people were arrested for being drunk and disorderly or drunk and incapable in a public place.
Sgt Ian Wood said there were a number of alcohol-related laws around sporting events, including an offence of trying to enter a sports ground while drunk.
He said: "My concern is fans will be unaware of these offences. I hope the introduction of the devices will help stewards make empowered decisions about who should enter the ground."
Anyone turned away from a venue will be offered a scratchcard giving information about their drinking risk levels.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 10:41:35 GMT
I'm fairly sure it was a temporary experiment. Anyway, who on earth is drunk at twice the drink drive limit?
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Post by csssmooth on Oct 11, 2015 15:36:33 GMT
I'm fairly sure it was a temporary experiment. Anyway, who on earth is drunk at twice the drink drive limit? Very true, and if any club started refusing to let anyone who was twice the drink drive limit (between 3 and 4 pints Depending on yr tipple to my reckoning) in, then attendances would be down by at least 40% at most games, and without the emotional crutch of soothing numbing alcohol a lot of games would be rendered unwatchable
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Post by DudeLebowski on Oct 13, 2015 17:07:57 GMT
Is the whole jist of this trial, because their is a belief that disorderly/yobbish behaviour at football matches, is solely down to the sale and/or consumption of alcohol?!
Wow.
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 13, 2015 17:13:10 GMT
Is the whole jist of this trial, because their is a belief that disorderly/yobbish behaviour at football matches, is solely down to the sale and/or consumption of alcohol?! Wow. Are you saying 'we're quite capable of being yobbish and disorderly without alcolhol' (if you don't mind!)
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Post by DudeLebowski on Oct 13, 2015 17:24:38 GMT
Is the whole jist of this trial, because their is a belief that disorderly/yobbish behaviour at football matches, is solely down to the sale and/or consumption of alcohol?! Wow. Are you saying 'we're quite capable of being yobbish and disorderly without alcolhol' (if you don't mind!) In some fixtures in particular, yes. Yes I am.
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Post by GasPanic! on Oct 14, 2015 10:08:03 GMT
Fully support this move and wish other clubs would do the same.
Drunken idiots frequently ruin my match day experience. Why can't people just turn up and watch the game?
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 14, 2015 10:45:04 GMT
Fully support this move and wish other clubs would do the same. Drunken idiots frequently ruin my match day experience. Why can't people just turn up and watch the game? Good luck surviving to clubs if they don't want fans who have had 3 or 4 pints before a game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 10:47:23 GMT
Fully support this move and wish other clubs would do the same. Drunken idiots frequently ruin my match day experience. Why can't people just turn up and watch the game? I remember one drunken idiot at Woking away last year, he was a right state. Pretty sure he lost his train ticket he was so wasted, hopefully he got back home safe though I've not seen him since.
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Post by LPGas on Oct 14, 2015 11:11:17 GMT
I gave up drinking years ago when I struggled to fit in to my trousers
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Post by GasPanic! on Oct 14, 2015 11:25:17 GMT
Fully support this move and wish other clubs would do the same. Drunken idiots frequently ruin my match day experience. Why can't people just turn up and watch the game? I remember one drunken idiot at Woking away last year, he was a right state. Pretty sure he lost his train ticket he was so wasted, hopefully he got back home safe though I've not seen him since. Think I remember the tw*t you're on about. Managed to trick a throughly decent club like Woking in to selling him an Under15 ticket. Terrible bloke.
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