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Post by dickgherkin on Jul 18, 2015 21:06:43 GMT
I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I put it quite politely in the article I wrote for Bristol 24/7I don't trust the current board because it has made a series of serious errors of judgment that have put the club in a poor position when we should be much more financially stable. From the outside (the only position available), the Board presents a dismissive attitude to the fans: in its witholding of key information at crucial moments, its subversion of fan's attempts to gain genuine representation at board level, and a generally shallow level of communication to the fans (e.g. The Chairman's Report). There is an atmosphere of "we know best, so trust us to get on with it" that we, as fans, cannot continue to allow. I have no delusions about the situation. The Board has invested in the club, and will not consider a buy-out unless they recoup that investment. The fans cannot afford to buy the club. Another owner may be no improvement, in fact could be truly disastrous (Darlington). Despite all of this, I feel it in my water that we're going in the wrong direction, and that if the Board will not change voluntarily we need to force a change. Higgxit. Again, trying to avoid delusions about what would be possible, here's what i reckon we should agree to do: 1. Join the Supporters Club and become active in its decision making and administration. If we want a voice for the fans we don't need to re-invent the wheel, we just need to repair the one we already have. 2. Make it clear: We Want Higgs Out. Sing it from the stands and terraces before the game, show banners, give Box 1 a barracking. Not pleasant, but creating a nasty atmosphere for the Board is the only way, in the short term, that fans can put any pressure on them to agree to a fair deal to sell the club. 3. No negativity when the team is on the pitch. As soon as 'we can smell gas' we agree not to protest about the Board until the players have all gone into the tunnel after the game. 4. Go with the majority. If the majority of fans want Higgs to stay, or just forget about it all and get on with the season, the minority of us need to not keep on about it (except on forums and social media, of course!) To start off with, I'm going to try and put up a poll to see what the majority is at the moment. (If i am allowed to and if i can make it work)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 22:03:20 GMT
With respect Dick, you've just proposed we subscribe to an Away Travel service and sing some songs.
We'd be better off buying lottery tickets.
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Post by alwaysgas on Jul 18, 2015 22:09:51 GMT
I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I put it quite politely in the article I wrote for Bristol 24/7I don't trust the current board because it has made a series of serious errors of judgment that have put the club in a poor position when we should be much more financially stable. From the outside (the only position available), the Board presents a dismissive attitude to the fans: in its witholding of key information at crucial moments, its subversion of fan's attempts to gain genuine representation at board level, and a generally shallow level of communication to the fans (e.g. The Chairman's Report). There is an atmosphere of "we know best, so trust us to get on with it" that we, as fans, cannot continue to allow. I have no delusions about the situation. The Board has invested in the club, and will not consider a buy-out unless they recoup that investment. The fans cannot afford to buy the club. Another owner may be no improvement, in fact could be truly disastrous (Darlington). Despite all of this, I feel it in my water that we're going in the wrong direction, and that if the Board will not change voluntarily we need to force a change. Higgxit. Again, trying to avoid delusions about what would be possible, here's what i reckon we should agree to do: 1. Join the Supporters Club and become active in its decision making and administration. If we want a voice for the fans we don't need to re-invent the wheel, we just need to repair the one we already have. 2. Make it clear: We Want Higgs Out. Sing it from the stands and terraces before the game, show banners, give Box 1 a barracking. Not pleasant, but creating a nasty atmosphere for the Board is the only way, in the short term, that fans can put any pressure on them to agree to a fair deal to sell the club. 3. No negativity when the team is on the pitch. As soon as 'we can smell gas' we agree not to protest about the Board until the players have all gone into the tunnel after the game. 4. Go with the majority. If the majority of fans want Higgs to stay, or just forget about it all and get on with the season, the minority of us need to not keep on about it (except on forums and social media, of course!) To start off with, I'm going to try and put up a poll to see what the majority is at the moment. (If i am allowed to and if i can make it work) Grow up or go play on the swings with the rest of the children.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jul 18, 2015 22:13:31 GMT
If joining the SC is the answer you are asking the wrong question.
Nothing but unstinting support for the boardroom throughout my 39 years watching the club. And that includes selling our right to play at Eastville for peanuts.
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Post by LPGas on Jul 19, 2015 9:59:29 GMT
I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I put it quite politely in the article I wrote for Bristol 24/7I don't trust the current board because it has made a series of serious errors of judgment that have put the club in a poor position when we should be much more financially stable. From the outside (the only position available), the Board presents a dismissive attitude to the fans: in its witholding of key information at crucial moments, its subversion of fan's attempts to gain genuine representation at board level, and a generally shallow level of communication to the fans (e.g. The Chairman's Report). There is an atmosphere of "we know best, so trust us to get on with it" that we, as fans, cannot continue to allow. I have no delusions about the situation. The Board has invested in the club, and will not consider a buy-out unless they recoup that investment. The fans cannot afford to buy the club. Another owner may be no improvement, in fact could be truly disastrous (Darlington). Despite all of this, I feel it in my water that we're going in the wrong direction, and that if the Board will not change voluntarily we need to force a change. Higgxit. Again, trying to avoid delusions about what would be possible, here's what i reckon we should agree to do: 1. Join the Supporters Club and become active in its decision making and administration. If we want a voice for the fans we don't need to re-invent the wheel, we just need to repair the one we already have. 2. Make it clear: We Want Higgs Out. Sing it from the stands and terraces before the game, show banners, give Box 1 a barracking. Not pleasant, but creating a nasty atmosphere for the Board is the only way, in the short term, that fans can put any pressure on them to agree to a fair deal to sell the club. 3. No negativity when the team is on the pitch. As soon as 'we can smell gas' we agree not to protest about the Board until the players have all gone into the tunnel after the game. 4. Go with the majority. If the majority of fans want Higgs to stay, or just forget about it all and get on with the season, the minority of us need to not keep on about it (except on forums and social media, of course!) To start off with, I'm going to try and put up a poll to see what the majority is at the moment. (If i am allowed to and if i can make it work) and replaced by who?
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Post by stig-of-the-gas on Jul 19, 2015 10:01:42 GMT
Until there is a better option Higgs is the best option.
"I'm angry, Higgs has to go" is what you just said. You haven't said what happens next.
Got a better option?
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 19, 2015 11:29:11 GMT
Until there is a better option Higgs is the best option. "I'm angry, Higgs has to go" is what you just said. You haven't said what happens next. Got a better option? We will never know what the options are because higgs isn't likely to make them public and undermine his own position. The present board are very similar to the monarchy in that there is no obvious mechanism to remove them apart from mass public dissent.
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Post by GasPanic! on Jul 19, 2015 11:44:21 GMT
Woefully inaccurate article.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jul 19, 2015 14:09:53 GMT
Sorry guys and girlies but to have no exit strategy is just wrong.
Maybe some of the board are hitting way below some of our expectations, but until we have a credible alternative I won't be singing sack the board just yet.
They get much wrong, but until another dictatorship comes along that offers better, I'll stick with devils I (think I) know ..
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 19, 2015 16:37:57 GMT
Until there is a better option Higgs is the best option. "I'm angry, Higgs has to go" is what you just said. You haven't said what happens next. Got a better option? Seriously, could there be a worse option? We're millions in debt, just managed to scrape back into the FL and have a Chairman who can't seem to accept defeat against one of the biggest, and dare I say it, most repected company's in the UK. Hereford fans waited too long under their former Chairman, who only left when he'd virtually bankrupted the club.
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Jul 19, 2015 16:58:03 GMT
I'm sorry to be so direct but please,for the love of god, tune in to sanity fm and desist from bankrupting our club. If you have a backer, fine,bring forth the backer. If not, making the man with the money , who is an actual fan, regardless of if he is an astute football man (he isn't IMO) leave is akin to self harm in football terms. Thankfully now, the "people's army" is a very small fringe group believing that some workers collective can run the club better despite never, ever having the financial resources to piss, let alone a pot to piss in and god willing, will remain a fringe group of those without any understanding of the realities of reality.
Higgs wants out anyway. As soon as we are in a good position to sell he will be gone. Count your lucky stats he hasn't left us already. Not a good chairman but throwing ones toys put the pram now is dumbsville Arizona. Things could get A LOT worse. A hell of a lot worse.
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Post by dickgherkin on Jul 20, 2015 14:36:17 GMT
The poll has spoken, I'm in the minority, so will leave it alone for now (and go back to banging on about safe standing) ;0)
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Post by dickgherkin on Jul 20, 2015 14:37:59 GMT
Woefully inaccurate article. How? There's the typo about the move to Mem (as someone has already pointed out in the comments). What else?
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Post by dickgherkin on Jul 20, 2015 14:45:12 GMT
I'm sorry to be so direct but please,for the love of god, tune in to sanity fm and desist from bankrupting our club. If you have a backer, fine,bring forth the backer. If not, making the man with the money , who is an actual fan, regardless of if he is an astute football man (he isn't IMO) leave is akin to self harm in football terms. Thankfully now, the "people's army" is a very small fringe group believing that some workers collective can run the club better despite never, ever having the financial resources to piss, let alone a pot to piss in and god willing, will remain a fringe group of those without any understanding of the realities of reality. Higgs wants out anyway. As soon as we are in a good position to sell he will be gone. Count your lucky stats he hasn't left us already. Not a good chairman but throwing ones toys put the pram now is dumbsville Arizona. Things could get A LOT worse. A hell of a lot worse. Hey, nice rant, very colourful. Ironically, considering your obsession with it, a little lacking in reality.... In my OP I wrote: I have no delusions about the situation. The Board has invested in the club, and will not consider a buy-out unless they recoup that investment. The fans cannot afford to buy the club. Another owner may be no improvement, in fact could be truly disastrous (Darlington). So, although i firmly believe in workers collectives in every other area of life (including your beloved police force) I'm not looking for The Peoples Revolution to take over Bristol Rovers. I'm off to see if i can cobble together the financial resources to have a piss. Keep on truckin' (and having 'your people' listen to my conversations, as your footer says...) Love and Hugs Citizen Foxy Smith x
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Post by GasPanic! on Jul 20, 2015 16:18:15 GMT
Woefully inaccurate article. How? There's the typo about the move to Mem (as someone has already pointed out in the comments). What else? "What made this worthwhile to the fans? The decision was framed as one between progress or decay. Swansea City or Lincoln City. And always in the background, like a dull ache, the success of The Other City, Bristol City, the pressure of “ Mind the Gap” (two divisions for more than a decade now). This was an opportunity we could not afford to pass up." Two division gap has only existed since the end of 2010/11 season. Best wishes.
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Post by c13 on Jul 20, 2015 17:46:39 GMT
For someone creating a poll (as in, democratic voting) the OP sure likes to throw small tantrums and subliminar hits at whoever disagrees with him.
Also "IT DOESN'T GET ANY WORSE THAN THIS" is not a valid argument. We know it DOES, and we've faced most of them in the pitch this entire last season.
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Post by LincsBlue on Jul 20, 2015 18:47:14 GMT
Until there is a better option Higgs is the best option. "I'm angry, Higgs has to go" is what you just said. You haven't said what happens next. Got a better option? We will never know what the options are because higgs isn't likely to make them public and undermine his own position. The present board are very similar to the monarchy in that there is no obvious mechanism to remove them apart from mass public dissent. Perhaps the vast majority don't wish to get rid of the Monarchy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 19:13:14 GMT
We will never know what the options are because higgs isn't likely to make them public and undermine his own position. The present board are very similar to the monarchy in that there is no obvious mechanism to remove them apart from mass public dissent. Perhaps the vast majority don't wish to get rid of the Monarchy Certainly not the Rovers monarchy. If King Higgs can take the club into non league after his previous relegation to the basement league and run up staggering losses and debt then he has affectively been awarded the freedom of BS7. Keep up the good work King Nicholas I.
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Post by markczgas on Jul 20, 2015 19:44:45 GMT
Until there is a better option Higgs is the best option. "I'm angry, Higgs has to go" is what you just said. You haven't said what happens next. Got a better option? Is Higgs irreplaceable a bit like Matty Taylor ??
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Post by markczgas on Jul 20, 2015 19:45:36 GMT
Woefully inaccurate article. GasPanic which bits please ?
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