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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 13, 2015 17:37:51 GMT
I can't understand the mentality of suggesting we protest against Sainsbury's as does anybody seriously think they'll hand over £30m because a few Gasheads form a picket line?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2015 17:38:03 GMT
Why do you keep posting this? As landowners I doubt that Higgs would have turned down an increased offer from another buyer. In this instance Sainsburys are going ahead with the store so we would look a bit silly manning the picket lines with different slogans on our placards. Now I'm getting confused. Should we protest about them building store or not building stores? |
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Jul 13, 2015 17:44:21 GMT
Happy with the trolley thing. Megaphone and boards outside stores. General legal peacefull protest. Certainly not 'let it go, laws the law, never mind etc' Let us know how it goes. But why you would want to cause shop staff inconvenience I have no idea, they are just trying to do a job to earn a wage. Best not remove anything perishable from the shelves unless you intend to purchase it. They get paid hourly rate to either stock shelves or work tills. They get paid the same to put our trolleys away. I used to work for them and I would have been glad of the novelty, they aren't self employed business owners trying to turn a profit. The only people hurt by this are the shareholders and management of J S Sainsbury plc. I'm not expecting tangible results, I'm expecting a good deal of joy in inflicting pain on slippery corporate sods. The staff could not care less, and even if it causes a minor annoyance, I could not care less. My industry is attacked daily by pressure groups, armchair pundits and people who don't understand the first thing about it sticking their noses in to my annoyance. In conflict, one must fight for ones desires and not back down for the sake of slightly inconveniencing a spotty teenager. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2015 17:52:26 GMT
Let us know how it goes. But why you would want to cause shop staff inconvenience I have no idea, they are just trying to do a job to earn a wage. Best not remove anything perishable from the shelves unless you intend to purchase it. They get paid hourly rate to either stock shelves or work tills. They get paid the same to put our trolleys away. I used to work for them and I would have been glad of the novelty, they aren't self employed business owners trying to turn a profit. The only people hurt by this are the shareholders and management of J S Sainsbury plc. I'm not expecting tangible results, I'm expecting a good deal of joy in inflicting pain on slippery corporate sods. The staff could not care less, and even if it causes a minor annoyance, I could not care less. My industry is attacked daily by pressure groups, armchair pundits and people who don't understand the first thing about it sticking their noses in to my annoyance. In conflict, one must fight for ones desires and not back down for the sake of slightly inconveniencing a spotty teenager. They make the thick end of £2,000,000 each and every day. Staff will have extra work to do, but shareholders won't be hurt, and you'll get bored of doing it after a few days, or when security remind you that it's private property and if you do it again you will be asked to leave. |
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Post by thecyclist on Jul 13, 2015 18:10:12 GMT
You people are weak j S Sainsbury have manipulated contract law to the full, and the judge has just gone with the big corporate v little guy. Screw moving on, why not a war on sainsburies. Get your backbone and get revenge. This isn't a minor disagreement. This has cost out club big time. They are to blame. Not Higgs. sainsburies are to blame. Reneged. Rovers drafted a crap contract and Sainsbury's took advantage of a legal route out of the contract, the worst thing that can be said of Sainsbury's is that they weren't as diligent at preparing an appeal against the planing refusal as they might have been, but that was not the finding of judge. Rovers legal team was led by a QC, a rank attained by an elite few, so I struggle to swallow this argument that we lost because it's some fight between David and Goliath. The fact we allowed this to go to court when we probably could have negotiated an amicable settlement a year ago is yet another failure that the BoD should be help accountable for. Fact is, Sainsbury's owe us nothing, they have a responsibility to their shareholders, they have a responsibility to obey the law, they do not have a responsibility to act contrary to their own interests in order to help Bristol Rovers Football Club. We are not entitled to any sort of revenge or restitution against Sainsbury's, to argue otherwise is childish, petulant and uppity. The BoD on the other hand do have a responsibility to the club, they have failed to act in our best interests and they are to blame. Not Sainsbury's. Were we not being assured at one point that Mrs Ware was part of the legal team and therefore everything would be sweet? |
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Jul 13, 2015 20:35:26 GMT
Yes, and when the teds burned our ground down, it was our board to blame for not protecting our interests.
af blame flow chart:
========> the board.
We got diddled by manipulative bully boys, if you were looking in at any other club you'd see it. That, and raddice and company.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2015 21:04:41 GMT
Rovers drafted a crap contract and Sainsbury's took advantage of a legal route out of the contract, the worst thing that can be said of Sainsbury's is that they weren't as diligent at preparing an appeal against the planing refusal as they might have been, but that was not the finding of judge. Rovers legal team was led by a QC, a rank attained by an elite few, so I struggle to swallow this argument that we lost because it's some fight between David and Goliath. The fact we allowed this to go to court when we probably could have negotiated an amicable settlement a year ago is yet another failure that the BoD should be help accountable for. Fact is, Sainsbury's owe us nothing, they have a responsibility to their shareholders, they have a responsibility to obey the law, they do not have a responsibility to act contrary to their own interests in order to help Bristol Rovers Football Club. We are not entitled to any sort of revenge or restitution against Sainsbury's, to argue otherwise is childish, petulant and uppity. The BoD on the other hand do have a responsibility to the club, they have failed to act in our best interests and they are to blame. Not Sainsbury's. Were we not being assured at one point that Mrs Ware was part of the legal team and therefore everything would be sweet? The only thing I can say to that is we are off to Cheltenham! Mr Ware!!!! one sad story after another. |
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Post by markczgas on Jul 13, 2015 21:08:32 GMT
My eyesight is getting blurry with age , is this thread title Supporters Protest ? If so, I'm in !!
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Post by LincsBlue on Jul 13, 2015 21:09:27 GMT
If anything that Sainsbury's sell is better or cheaper then I'll do what's best for me and shop there. I won't |
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Post by Cosmic Pasty on Jul 13, 2015 22:07:35 GMT
I noticed just now that our story is the ninth most-read article on the BBC website, so there must be a bit more interest in it nationally than I imagined, and now that it's in the most-read list it will probably get a few more viewers reading it out of idle curiousity. It would be nice to think that some of those readers are landowners that Sainsburys would be keen to buy from one day in order to keep pace with or ahead of competing supermarkets, landowners who will think twice now before doing business with them. Even if just a little karma comes their way, Sainsburys might yet feel the bite of their own gnashers in their own backside. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2015 22:09:31 GMT
Rovers drafted a crap contract and Sainsbury's took advantage of a legal route out of the contract, the worst thing that can be said of Sainsbury's is that they weren't as diligent at preparing an appeal against the planing refusal as they might have been, but that was not the finding of judge. Rovers legal team was led by a QC, a rank attained by an elite few, so I struggle to swallow this argument that we lost because it's some fight between David and Goliath. The fact we allowed this to go to court when we probably could have negotiated an amicable settlement a year ago is yet another failure that the BoD should be help accountable for. Fact is, Sainsbury's owe us nothing, they have a responsibility to their shareholders, they have a responsibility to obey the law, they do not have a responsibility to act contrary to their own interests in order to help Bristol Rovers Football Club. We are not entitled to any sort of revenge or restitution against Sainsbury's, to argue otherwise is childish, petulant and uppity. The BoD on the other hand do have a responsibility to the club, they have failed to act in our best interests and they are to blame. Not Sainsbury's. Were we not being assured at one point that Mrs Ware was part of the legal team and therefore everything would be sweet? I think she got fed up of not getting paid. |
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Post by markczgas on Jul 13, 2015 22:25:22 GMT
I noticed just now that our story is the ninth most-read article on the BBC website, so there must be a bit more interest in it nationally than I imagined, and now that it's in the most-read list it will probably get a few more viewers reading it out of idle curiousity. It would be nice to think that some of those readers are landowners that Sainsburys would be keen to buy from one day in order to keep pace with or ahead of competing supermarkets, landowners who will think twice now before doing business with them. Even if just a little karma comes their way, Sainsburys might yet feel the bite of their own gnashers in their own backside. Doubt it mate, money makes the world go round ! |
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Post by bluebeard on Jul 14, 2015 0:30:26 GMT
Happy with the trolley thing. Megaphone and boards outside stores. General legal peacefull protest. Certainly not 'let it go, laws the law, never mind etc' Let us know how it goes. But why you would want to cause shop staff inconvenience I have no idea, they are just trying to do a job to earn a wage. Best not remove anything perishable from the shelves unless you intend to purchase it. Yawn. I won't ever shop at Sainsburys again because I don't like the way they do business. Simples. Why do vegetarians bother abstaining from meat and why do forum members post their negative opinions in the knowledge that very few people care and nothing will ever change as a result? Because it makes them feel better. Futile protest is our democratic right. |
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 14, 2015 7:03:08 GMT
Let us know how it goes. But why you would want to cause shop staff inconvenience I have no idea, they are just trying to do a job to earn a wage. Best not remove anything perishable from the shelves unless you intend to purchase it. Yawn. I won't ever shop at Sainsburys again because I don't like the way they do business. Simples. Why do vegetarians bother abstaining from meat and why do forum members post their negative opinions in the knowledge that very few people care and nothing will ever change as a result? Because it makes them feel better. Futile protest is our democratic right. If I refused to shop at stores because of moral objections, I'd probably be getting my food from bins |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 7:23:36 GMT
Yawn. I won't ever shop at Sainsburys again because I don't like the way they do business. Simples. Why do vegetarians bother abstaining from meat and why do forum members post their negative opinions in the knowledge that very few people care and nothing will ever change as a result? Because it makes them feel better. Futile protest is our democratic right. If I refused to shop at stores because of moral objections, I'd probably be getting my food from bins Most of those bins are made from Chinese steel where the workers are exploited. |
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Post by Thatslife on Jul 14, 2015 7:29:05 GMT
Cost them money as there actions have cost our club I think some people have got the wrong idea about protesting. It's not about inconveniencing Sainsbury's staff, it's about getting media coverage, it's about embarrassing Sainsburys, protesting can be a very good way of causing grief to the target, if it's done correctly. One scenario could be that 20 to 30 gasheads cross the road in front of the supermarket and then turn around a cross it again and again. It will cause gridlock in the surrounding area, yes the police will come and when the tell you to stop, you stop, and go home. No laws have been broken. The next day, ditto, it's not about effecting Sainsbury prophets or sales. The end game is to get the national media to investigate Sainsbury actions and to seriously question the way they run their business and their bully boy ethics. No colors would be worn by the protesters, no mention of it being anything to do with the club, we don't want to any backlash. Just citizen's protesting about supermarket ethics. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 8:56:56 GMT
Cost them money as there actions have cost our club I think some people have got the wrong idea about protesting. It's not about inconveniencing Sainsbury's staff, it's about getting media coverage, it's about embarrassing Sainsburys, protesting can be a very good way of causing grief to the target, if it's done correctly. One scenario could be that 20 to 30 gasheads cross the road in front of the supermarket and then turn around a cross it again and again. It will cause gridlock in the surrounding area, yes the police will come and when the tell you to stop, you stop, and go home. No laws have been broken. The next day, ditto, it's not about effecting Sainsbury prophets or sales. The end game is to get the national media to investigate Sainsbury actions and to seriously question the way they run their business and their bully boy ethics. No colors would be worn by the protesters, no mention of it being anything to do with the club, we don't want to any backlash. Just citizen's protesting about supermarket ethics. Sainsbury's have their own prophets? No wonder they know exactly how to word contracts. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 9:04:49 GMT
Oh come on warriors.
We have dragged ourselves down for years and have never learnt the art of protest.
We will roll over and accept this just like every other decision that affects the club.
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Post by me on Jul 14, 2015 9:47:26 GMT
I feel let down - my Mrs has just informed me she is going to Sainsburys. I asked if she was for real, and then to top it off, on her way out she asked 'was there anything I wanted?' I think she has reneged on our marriage contract, does anyone know Sainsbury's legal teams's number?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 9:58:58 GMT
I've not shopped at Saisburys for about a year and have asked the lady minder not to as well. Why would you when Lidl is far better?
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