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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 0:19:54 GMT
gagging order, theres a joke in there somewhere
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Jul 6, 2015 5:55:19 GMT
Can someone sum up these 4 pages of discourse in 2 sound bites please?
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simonj
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Post by simonj on Jul 6, 2015 7:25:17 GMT
Can someone sum up these 4 pages of discourse in 2 sound bites please?
Welcome aboard. We highlight/analyse your every move, past and present and never agree amongst ourselves.
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Post by droitwichgas on Jul 6, 2015 8:02:43 GMT
Can someone sum up these 4 pages of discourse in 2 sound bites please? Basically it's the summer and we haven't got a lot to talk about!
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 6, 2015 9:34:39 GMT
He's not been found guilty or not guilty of anything, people don't understand the British legal system. He looks good on YouTube but no-one has seen him play.
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Post by crater on Jul 6, 2015 9:56:20 GMT
He's not been found guilty or not guilty of anything, people don't understand the British legal system. He looks good on YouTube but no-one has seen him play. Yeah but you're forgetting people base their opinions on a player's abilities on how he's done for them on Fifa
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 6, 2015 10:08:16 GMT
He's not been found guilty or not guilty of anything, people don't understand the British legal system. He looks good on YouTube but no-one has seen him play. Yeah but you're forgetting people base their opinions on a player's abilities on how he's done for them on Fifa True but that's got me stumped as have never played it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 10:10:54 GMT
Can someone sum up these 4 pages of discourse in 2 sound bites please? In a short career so far he's managed to get accused of rape and spot-fixing and not been convicted of either due to what appears to be sheer good luck.Even Oldham sacked him, which is odd as they actively seek to recruit criminals.
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Post by dagnogo on Jul 6, 2015 10:41:30 GMT
He's not been found guilty or not guilty of anything, people don't understand the British legal system. He looks good on YouTube but no-one has seen him play. He's not been found guilty of anything so we don't need to treat him as if he has been. The intricacies of his cases are irrelevant as only the result matters - he's not been found guilty so his innocence is presumed. Oh and there's no such thing as the British legal system, England and Wales has one, Scotland has their own.
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faggotygas
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 6, 2015 11:17:18 GMT
I wouldn't attend games if Rovers were to employ a convicted rapist. Good job Christian isn't one then. People are sometimes accused and tried for things they did not do. Sometimes our two tier justice system gets it right. I would expect the "there's no smoke without fire " argument to come out somewhere, if so, then explain a smoke machine. Every male under 65 on this forum breaks the law every week, including me. Let the guy have a chance to prove himself both on and off the field. The manager will have gone the extra yard to ensure he is legit so give him a break FFS! ok. Smoke machines don't produce smoke, they produce fog.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 10, 2015 5:33:14 GMT
If you took out all the players in the football league who have had allegations made against them my guess would be at least one in every club. Meanwhile anyone else think the publics social media campaign against Ched Evans is wrong? No, I don't and I'm very concerned about Montano joining Rovers. There are a good few of us on this forum with what can only be described as a chequered history. Personally, I have been glad many have given me a second and even third chance and I firmly believe that people can and do change. I can only write from my own experience and I have been up on charges that were not only not true but we're made up. Sometimes it takes a clean sheet or carte blanche, to restart something that you are good at and this may just be his chance to resurrect what seemed like a bright future. I do trust DC and, even though he is learning on the job, he seems to be getting more right than wrong. We also have to bear in mind that our budget will not be what the Portsmouths of this division have and that we need to dig for that diamond in the rough. Good luck spider man, welcome to the Gas. Liking the ability to use both feet and well
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 10, 2015 5:58:24 GMT
Anybody would think we've just signed Jack the Ripper. As others have said, judge him on how her performs in a Rovers shirt. Too many on here pre judge a player without ever seeing him play and many are proved to be wrong. Just so sick of all the negativity You're mixing two matters here : his playing ability and what he has or hasn't been doing in his personal life - however, being in a high-profile profession and being a potential role model for kids, youngsters and young men it's highly important and Rovers are (whether you want to agree or not) are taking a gamble. I'l grant you it's a strange signing given the shenanigans that went on with Olly Norburn and the entire circus that went on that awful season. There is certainly no consistency & no real ethos within the club, on matters such as these.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 10, 2015 6:04:04 GMT
Good job Christian isn't one then. People are sometimes accused and tried for things they did not do. Sometimes our two tier justice system gets it right. I would expect the "there's no smoke without fire " argument to come out somewhere, if so, then explain a smoke machine. Every male under 65 on this forum breaks the law every week, including me. Let the guy have a chance to prove himself both on and off the field. The manager will have gone the extra yard to ensure he is legit so give him a break FFS! ok. Smoke machines don't produce smoke, they produce fog. Try telling that to J.D Wetherspoons about electronic cigarettes. I was allowed to puff on mine in hospital yet get filthy looks when puffing elsewhere. I like the smoke machine producing Fog part & will now use that when rationalising my use of my E cigarette. Cheers fella
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 10, 2015 7:18:27 GMT
ok. Smoke machines don't produce smoke, they produce fog. Try telling that to J.D Wetherspoons about electronic cigarettes. I was allowed to puff on mine in hospital yet get filthy looks when puffing elsewhere. I like the smoke machine producing Fog part & will now use that when rationalising my use of my E cigarette. Cheers fella
Madness, isn't it? I don't use them myself, but I certainly don't mind when others do. They're harmless. Don't get me started on nitrous oxide...
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Post by droitwichgas on Jul 10, 2015 7:30:43 GMT
No, I don't and I'm very concerned about Montano joining Rovers. There are a good few of us on this forum with what can only be described as a chequered history. Personally, I have been glad many have given me a second and even third chance and I firmly believe that people can and do change. I can only write from my own experience and I have been up on charges that were not only not true but we're made up. Sometimes it takes a clean sheet or carte blanche, to restart something that you are good at and this may just be his chance to resurrect what seemed like a bright future. I do trust DC and, even though he is learning on the job, he seems to be getting more right than wrong. We also have to bear in mind that our budget will not be what the Portsmouths of this division have and that we need to dig for that diamond in the rough. Good luck spider man, welcome to the Gas. Liking the ability to use both feet and well I'l grant you it's a strange signing given the shenanigans that went on with Olly Norburn and the entire circus that went on that awful season. There is certainly no consistency & no real ethos within the club, on matters such as these Read more: gasheads.org/thread/3547/new-signing-cristian-montano?page=6#ixzz3fTI3q240You can't have it both ways though, either we take a risk or we don't!
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 10, 2015 15:50:34 GMT
There are a good few of us on this forum with what can only be described as a chequered history. Personally, I have been glad many have given me a second and even third chance and I firmly believe that people can and do change. I can only write from my own experience and I have been up on charges that were not only not true but we're made up. Sometimes it takes a clean sheet or carte blanche, to restart something that you are good at and this may just be his chance to resurrect what seemed like a bright future. I do trust DC and, even though he is learning on the job, he seems to be getting more right than wrong. We also have to bear in mind that our budget will not be what the Portsmouths of this division have and that we need to dig for that diamond in the rough. Good luck spider man, welcome to the Gas. Liking the ability to use both feet and well I'l grant you it's a strange signing given the shenanigans that went on with Olly Norburn and the entire circus that went on that awful season. There is certainly no consistency & no real ethos within the club, on matters such as these Read more: gasheads.org/thread/3547/new-signing-cristian-montano?page=6#ixzz3fTI3q240You can't have it both ways though, either we take a risk or we don't! Who is having it both ways ? Ooh er Matron. I welcome the guy but simply state the club are not consistent is all. It's pretty simple. No point scoring or even an attempt
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 10, 2015 21:29:11 GMT
ok. Smoke machines don't produce smoke, they produce fog. Try telling that to J.D Wetherspoons about electronic cigarettes. I was allowed to puff on mine in hospital yet get filthy looks when puffing elsewhere. I like the smoke machine producing Fog part & will now use that when rationalising my use of my E cigarette. Cheers fella KP, I'm actually really surprised you were allowed their use in hospital, most public buildings have a total ban on them, if they were harmless they wouldn't be banned and they wouldn't be marketed as 'e' cigarettes. They are of course far less harmful than tobacco but aren't totally harmless as tests have proven but are certainly a better alternative for those who require their fix.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 11, 2015 18:13:05 GMT
Try telling that to J.D Wetherspoons about electronic cigarettes. I was allowed to puff on mine in hospital yet get filthy looks when puffing elsewhere. I like the smoke machine producing Fog part & will now use that when rationalising my use of my E cigarette. Cheers fella KP, I'm actually really surprised you were allowed their use in hospital, most public buildings have a total ban on them, if they were harmless they wouldn't be banned and they wouldn't be marketed as 'e' cigarettes. They are of course far less harmful than tobacco but aren't totally harmless as tests have proven but are certainly a better alternative for those who require their fix. Without going into specifics, one of the diseases I have benefits from the use of nicotine and they give nicotine patches to other sufferers. I was in an isolation room too so I guess the specialist didn't see any harm in it. The nurses were happy as they used to pop into my room and puff on their own e cigs. I was as surprised as you but wasn't going to complain lol
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 11, 2015 19:52:26 GMT
Try telling that to J.D Wetherspoons about electronic cigarettes. I was allowed to puff on mine in hospital yet get filthy looks when puffing elsewhere. I like the smoke machine producing Fog part & will now use that when rationalising my use of my E cigarette. Cheers fella KP, I'm actually really surprised you were allowed their use in hospital, most public buildings have a total ban on them, if they were harmless they wouldn't be banned and they wouldn't be marketed as 'e' cigarettes. They are of course far less harmful than tobacco but aren't totally harmless as tests have proven but are certainly a better alternative for those who require their fix. They are not banned Bridgey. It's up to the various pub landlords as the whether they allow their use. Wether spoons stopped the because they said it looked too much like s cigarette that they didn't know the difference. My local allows them as does the Folly and others. I would trust the hospital over the reports in the media. Big tobacco has been trying very hard to put out scare stories. There was one report recently that said there was formaldehyde in the vapour yet it was found to be paid for by Philip Morris tobacco and found to be full of outright lies. I used to smoke 20 a day. Had bronchitis often and was out of breath after a brisk walk. I don't suffer any of that on my vaping kit. I also haven't piled on the weight that comes with packing up cigs. You pays yer money and takes yer choice mate.
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Post by stevethepirate on Jul 12, 2015 7:53:18 GMT
KP, I'm actually really surprised you were allowed their use in hospital, most public buildings have a total ban on them, if they were harmless they wouldn't be banned and they wouldn't be marketed as 'e' cigarettes. They are of course far less harmful than tobacco but aren't totally harmless as tests have proven but are certainly a better alternative for those who require their fix. They are not banned Bridgey. It's up to the various pub landlords as the whether they allow their use. Wether spoons stopped the because they said it looked too much like s cigarette that they didn't know the difference. My local allows them as does the Folly and others. I would trust the hospital over the reports in the media. Big tobacco has been trying very hard to put out scare stories. There was one report recently that said there was formaldehyde in the vapour yet it was found to be paid for by Philip Morris tobacco and found to be full of outright lies. I used to smoke 20 a day. Had bronchitis often and was out of breath after a brisk walk. I don't suffer any of that on my vaping kit. I also haven't piled on the weight that comes with packing up cigs. You pays yer money and takes yer choice mate. Further to this, my dad smoked heavily for over 60 years and has recovered from lung cancer yet I gave him an e cigarette and he has now not touched a cigarette for over 2 years. He does not even use his e cigarette any more. Not bad for someone in his seventies and he will be there, with me, at the first game of the season.
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