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Post by dansdaddavid on May 18, 2015 9:16:18 GMT
Euphoria/Relief must quickly be replaced by ensuring we never put ourselves through this again. Who should stay and where do we need to strengthen? Hope both keepers stay although I suspect the Mildy wages may be freed up to enable other options elsewhere. Defence is good enough for League 2 so maybe not too much to do there. Love Mansell and Lines together and having the Beard fit again gives some cover. Width is the issue. Monkhouse is a solid performer but not one to set the pulse racing. We really need a quick go past the fullback merchant and to me this is our top priority. With a fit Easter we have options up front so not too much to worry about. Guess the other side of the coin is who is not up to playing at the higher level. That is what we have a Manager for and I imagine when his hangover clears he will start on that straight away. |
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Post by Westcountry Gas on May 18, 2015 10:50:05 GMT
Balanta has done nothing to warrant a new deal, there will be question marks over whether Gosling is a league player, apart from those 2 i hope all the other out of contract players remain at the club. 3-5 permanent signings, with the key focus being on saving some of the budget for quality loan signings at different stages of the season, i hope everyone will appreciate that the season is a long slog, with key loan windows in November, January & March.
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Post by Richard on May 18, 2015 10:52:55 GMT
It's going to be a fascinating close season and I assume a lot will depend on how the court case goes and what decision is reached there.
I agree that we need some width, particularly on the right flank, however I personally would like to see a new goalkeeper come in to take the number 1 spot.
The main difficulty that Clarke will face, and it is one that Trollope failed spectacularly with, is how to improve the team but maintain the same spirit and character. Trollope replaced people like Lescott, Walker and Disley with players who were better technically but lacked any sort of back bone such as Carl Regan, Darryl Duffy and Dominic Blizzard.
This seems to be the strongest team spirit we have had for years and years and this is reflected in the amount of games we have refused to lose. I hope Clarke manages to maintain this while bringing in some extra quality in a few areas.
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Post by markczgas on May 18, 2015 11:04:56 GMT
If we really are going to have a go at promotion again (although if we don't get any or little money from Sainsbury's I fear SMALL money for DC) then I would say we need a lot of strengthening.
We struggled to score goals most of the season and we rarely outclassed opponents.
I hope we get :
A first-choice keeper
A right -footed CB who is more commanding in the air than TP and MM ( they for me should battle it out for left CB)
A right -winger
A left winger ( Monkey, if he stays wouldn't probably last more than 15/20 games in a season)
A centre forward with more aerial presence than Harrison and Taylor
I'm still concerned about Right back - Lockyer hasn't got the pace or ability to add much to attacks, Leadbetter, hope he stays - isn't trusted by DC.
Let's hope Easter and Sinclair can also inject some more quality when fully-fit.
I would release or buy out : Mildenhall (or poss goal-keeping coach), Puddy, Trotman, Gosling, Ollie Clarke, Balanta, Blissett
If the board have no money and we stick with what we've got then I think it will be bottom 8 ( we just won't get enough goals to be competitive and the present keepers really worry me).
UTG !
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on May 18, 2015 11:11:36 GMT
Mansell should have a League 2 season in him, he's been terrific. We do need more width from proper wingers like Dawson. Gosling has done well on the right but lacks the trickiness and pinpoint cross that Dawson has. Brown didn't venture forward much yesterday as it was a midfield tussle. I'm fascinated by how Taylor will cope in League 2. He scored a lot of goals but he's not as decisive in his finishing as Harrison. He needs to improve on his one-on-ones because he won't get as many easy tap-ins. He looked a bit out of his depth yesterday I thought, and he lacks a burst of speed.
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Post by Neil Vincent on May 18, 2015 11:22:01 GMT
I think we need a new goalkeeper, a centre-back, two wingers and a striker. Basically just more solid cover throughout the squad, the core is good. Lines must be signed.
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Post by markczgas on May 18, 2015 11:22:08 GMT
Mansell should have a League 2 season in him, he's been terrific. We do need more width from proper wingers like Dawson. Gosling has done well on the right but lacks the trickiness and pinpoint cross that Dawson has. Brown didn't venture forward much yesterday as it was a midfield tussle. I'm fascinated by how Taylor will cope in League 2. He scored a lot of goals but he's not as decisive in his finishing as Harrison. He needs to improve on his one-on-ones because he won't get as many easy tap-ins. He looked a bit out of his depth yesterday I thought, and he lacks a burst of speed. Agreed about Taylor. Harrison is a better finisher but Taylor is such an intelligent, hard-working player. I think he has better skills than Harrison, is two-footed and has some pace especially the first 15 yards. He might not score a hateful but he will get quite a few assists as he has done this season. Yesterday he was up against a class CB in Nsala - strong and quick, but he still was involved in many of our more dangerous moments - the tussle with the keeper, the run across the box before being tackled and the excellent snapshot (Just wide) in 2nd half. I thought our midfield were too deep and left Taylor and Harrison with an awful to to do throughout the game. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 18, 2015 11:38:42 GMT
Lines in the middle is a given
Right sided winger/midfield (Dawson/LDV are not the answer)
Replace any that are sold on (Tom Lockyer comes to mind)
i would leave the rest alone until Jan and look again
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Post by Westcountry Gas on May 18, 2015 11:48:00 GMT
Lines in the middle is a given Right sided winger/midfield (Dawson/LDV are not the answer) Replace any that are sold on (Tom Lockyer comes to mind) i would leave the rest alone until Jan and look again I agree, i believe no major surgery is needed, i don't get the Dawson love in he's been very hit or miss at conference level and he's a northern lad so like Monkhouse i do wonder on a domestic level how wise it would be to sign up to us for another year living apart from girlfriends and wives. Trotman has proved he can do a job for us, can't remember the last time we had a centre half so dominant in the air, hopefully most of the out of contract players and people like Parkes & Lockyer aren't sold cheap. 2 Wingers, Chris Lines, and a Danny Woodards style utilty player would be my choice, with cash left over for quality loan players that will sign now we are back in the football league. |
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Post by markczgas on May 18, 2015 11:54:26 GMT
Lines in the middle is a given Right sided winger/midfield (Dawson/LDV are not the answer) Replace any that are sold on (Tom Lockyer comes to mind) i would leave the rest alone until Jan and look again I agree, i believe no major surgery is needed, i don't get the Dawson love in he's been very hit or miss at conference level and he's a northern lad so like Monkhouse i do wonder on a domestic level how wise it would be to sign up to us for another year living apart from girlfriends and wives. Trotman has proved he can do a job for us, can't remember the last time we had a centre half so dominant in the air, hopefully most of the out of contract players and people like Parkes & Lockyer aren't sold cheap. 2 Wingers, Chris Lines, and a Danny Woodards style utilty player would be my choice, with cash left over for quality loan players that will sign now we are back in the football league. I don't really like discussing this after yesterday - criticising a player etc but do you think Lockyer is worth money ? i'm shocked (really), He can tackle and is brave but he is such a poor passer of the ball and lacks any pace. I think he's hit his ceiling. |
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Post by Westcountry Gas on May 18, 2015 12:04:02 GMT
I agree, i believe no major surgery is needed, i don't get the Dawson love in he's been very hit or miss at conference level and he's a northern lad so like Monkhouse i do wonder on a domestic level how wise it would be to sign up to us for another year living apart from girlfriends and wives. Trotman has proved he can do a job for us, can't remember the last time we had a centre half so dominant in the air, hopefully most of the out of contract players and people like Parkes & Lockyer aren't sold cheap. 2 Wingers, Chris Lines, and a Danny Woodards style utilty player would be my choice, with cash left over for quality loan players that will sign now we are back in the football league. I don't really like discussing this after yesterday - criticising a player etc but do you think Lockyer is worth money ? i'm shocked (really), He can tackle and is brave but he is such a poor passer of the ball and lacks any pace. I think he's hit his ceiling. He's a very good defensive right back, but the modern game has moved on so that right backs need to pass, get forward & act as a second winger. In fairness to Tom he's a centre back and not a full back or midfielder, but i've yet to see him have really poor game anywhere, that along with the fact he's played a 100 first team games and is only 20 years old means that Championship clubs will looking at waving a £200-£300k cheque at us, putting him in a development team for 2 years and hoping he will keep getting better as he gets older. His attitude, fitness levels & injury record is excellent, and that is a great starting point. |
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Post by warwickgas on May 18, 2015 12:04:48 GMT
Mansell should have a League 2 season in him, he's been terrific. We do need more width from proper wingers like Dawson. Gosling has done well on the right but lacks the trickiness and pinpoint cross that Dawson has. Brown didn't venture forward much yesterday as it was a midfield tussle. I'm fascinated by how Taylor will cope in League 2. He scored a lot of goals but he's not as decisive in his finishing as Harrison. He needs to improve on his one-on-ones because he won't get as many easy tap-ins. He looked a bit out of his depth yesterday I thought, and he lacks a burst of speed. Agreed about Taylor. Harrison is a better finisher but Taylor is such an intelligent, hard-working player. I think he has better skills than Harrison, is two-footed and has some pace especially the first 15 yards. He might not score a hateful but he will get quite a few assists as he has done this season. Yesterday he was up against a class CB in Nsala - strong and quick, but he still was involved in many of our more dangerous moments - the tussle with the keeper, the run across the box before being tackled and the excellent snapshot (Just wide) in 2nd half. I thought our midfield were too deep and left Taylor and Harrison with an awful to to do throughout the game. |
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Post by dagnogo on May 18, 2015 12:11:23 GMT
The side can compete in L2 as is.
We need 1 new keeper as I'd imagine Mildy is off.
Backup for Brown on the left would be nice. Otherwise, we've 3 decent centre halves and two decent right backs.
Wide positions are a worry - Monkhouse is great but he won't have the legs for 46 games. Gosling isn't one that I'm convinced about. Balanta and Baggie will go.
Sinclair deserves a chance in the Football League and should be signed up. Mansell is immense, as is Linesy who should now be signed. Clarke is a more than able deputy.
Up front - Ellis is obviously good enough but I fear we'll see a touch of Walker in L1 in Taylor - he deserves the chance but I'm not sure he'll make it. Blissett just needs the fitness of a full time pre season and he'll be set. Easter, when fot, should do damage too.
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Post by mpbrfc on May 18, 2015 12:23:29 GMT
he will keep the same goalkeepers, I have this on good authority
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Post by Neil Vincent on May 18, 2015 12:25:22 GMT
I don't really like discussing this after yesterday - criticising a player etc but do you think Lockyer is worth money ? i'm shocked (really), He can tackle and is brave but he is such a poor passer of the ball and lacks any pace. I think he's hit his ceiling. He's a very good defensive right back, but the modern game has moved on so that right backs need to pass, get forward & act as a second winger. In fairness to Tom he's a centre back and not a full back or midfielder, but i've yet to see him have really poor game anywhere, that along with the fact he's played a 100 first team games and is only 20 years old means that Championship clubs will looking at waving a £200-£300k cheque at us, putting him in a development team for 2 years and hoping he will keep getting better as he gets older. His attitude, fitness levels & injury record is excellent, and that is a great starting point. I agree. In essence he really isn't a right back and I think if and when Macca starts going backwards we'll see him move over. Ideally signing a good right-back would be great this summer but Locks has been excellent and DC trusts him which is vital. Whether a bigger club will be looking the bolded above and agree is a different story but I think if we were to get offers like that then it's a no brainer to sell IMO. However, don't think that will happen. |
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Post by PessimistGas on May 18, 2015 16:59:33 GMT
Does anyone reckon that Toni has actually done his job this season and actually knows the financial implications of promotion? One can but hope.
The defence is good enough for league 2, maybe need to sign some more cover.
Perhaps a new right back.
If Mildenhall goes I would concerned by Puddy.
We should do all we can keep Lines.
As for the rest of the midfield, needs some more quality. Clarke, Mansell, Gosling, Monkhouse, Balanta can go, Sinclair will be a decent squad player.
Taylor has earned his stripes and impressed me during the run in but still needs too many chances to score, worth keeping a squad player.
Harrison and Easter could be exciting next season if the hit it off and Easter stays out of the treatment room.
Probably need another striker.
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Post by ismellgas on May 18, 2015 18:33:58 GMT
Players to go
Balanta,blisset,gosling,monkhouse,Taylor and Mildenhall
Sinclair back in the midfield with manse and lines,think the defence will be fine in league 2
We need a couple of wide players I don't know why leadbetter doesn't start more rate him highly,and a proven striker to partner Harrison or Easter
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Post by PessimistGas on May 18, 2015 18:35:53 GMT
Players to go Balanta,blisset,gosling,monkhouse,Taylor and Mildenhall Sinclair back in the midfield with manse and lines,think the defence will be fine in league 2 We need a couple of wide players I don't know why leadbetter doesn't start more rate him highly,and a proven striker to partner Harrison or Easter Yeah, Ledbitter has looked good when he has played so not sure why hasn't played more to be honest. |
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Post by lostinspace on May 18, 2015 18:51:37 GMT
Does anyone reckon that Toni has actually done his job this season and actually knows the financial implications of promotion? One can but hope. Read more: gasheads.org/thread/3237/planning-league-2#ixzz3aW9ZgOADwell surely he only had two minutes to realise we were in a promotion situation |
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Post by walcotgas on May 18, 2015 19:43:32 GMT
I think we need a new goalkeeper, a centre-back, two wingers and a striker. Basically just more solid cover throughout the squad, the core is good. Lines must be signed. Agree with this; Presume Mildy's wages are an issue? Puddy is not up to League football even as cover. I think we need a CB with a bit of pace and a couple of wide players to give us some cutting edge. Even though Ellis is now emerging as a forward of potential I feel Easter may struggle to regain his fitness given that he's had a serious injury in his thirties. Matty Taylor deserves a shot at league 2 - I've enjoyed watching him this season, intelligent player great lay offs brings people into the game and has good vision. The only thing he lacks is clinical finishing. Think we need a proven finisher for next season. |
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