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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 19, 2014 14:04:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 14:10:35 GMT
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jun 19, 2014 14:23:21 GMT
What he says about them showing you to eat the right foods is interesting, thought we would at least do that. That's bizarre. That's one thing we could do as well as Arsenal and without it actually costing anything. Very poor if we can't even get basic stuff like that right.
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Post by RG2 Gas on Jun 19, 2014 14:33:54 GMT
What he says about them showing you to eat the right foods is interesting, thought we would at least do that. That's bizarre. That's one thing we could do as well as Arsenal and without it actually costing anything. Very poor if we can't even get basic stuff like that right. Agreed, you don't need to be a Premiership club to get the basics like nutrition right.
That was quite a good article, I hope he does well there.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 19, 2014 14:34:51 GMT
Why wouldn't it cost anything? I haven't read the article but I'll bet Arsenal employ a nutritionist that handles all of that & as a nutritionist is one of those new fangled careers that the world can't exist without (like project managers) they won't come cheap. I suppose we good get greasy Joe from Twerton back & buy him a fancy book to read.
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Post by TwertonKid on Jun 19, 2014 14:36:51 GMT
WOW! This forum is something else!
Literally need the tinniest little hint at negativity and this forum is all over it in seconds!
I miss the old forum..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 14:38:20 GMT
What he says about them showing you to eat the right foods is interesting, thought we would at least do that. That's bizarre. That's one thing we could do as well as Arsenal and without it actually costing anything. Very poor if we can't even get basic stuff like that right. Can we blame this on the board as well ?? :naughty:
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Post by basel on Jun 19, 2014 15:00:12 GMT
To hire a sports diet expert for a day or two would not be beyond part time clubs. Maybe Rovers have done this,i dunno but I imagine it's the sort of thing DC might be interested in.
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Post by RG2 Gas on Jun 19, 2014 15:00:23 GMT
WOW! This forum is something else! Literally need the tinniest little hint at negativity and this forum is all over it in seconds! I miss the old forum..
I think you're overreacting! It's interesting that an ex-player picked up on this after joining a new club - and as others have said it's something that you don't need Premier League resources to fix.
Not a criticism of the club or Board - but hopefully something we can learn from and continually improve upon. Surely any form of constructive criticism should be welcomed - how often have you watched the Rovers and thought the other team looked fitter? For me that has quite often over recent years and this might one thing the backroom team can take on board and look to learn from?
Maybe some posters do overly criticise - but they're offset by those so blinkered that they can't accept that there are areas we can improve upon. Here's one quick fix that could benefit the club at minimal cost.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jun 19, 2014 15:02:42 GMT
Why wouldn't it cost anything? I haven't read the article but I'll bet Arsenal employ a nutritionist that handles all of that & as a nutritionist is one of those new fangled careers that the world can't exist without (like project managers) they won't come cheap... how dare you be so sensible. people just love picking up the tinniest detail don't they. and splitting people apart rather than bringing them together. the small clubs of the world need to unite against the big clubs who suck our young talent away from us for peanuts, rather than fighting amongst themselves. and they love forgetting that young lads like macey are hardly likely to say anything negative about their new employer. unfortunately we get 6,000 a game, not 60,000. there is only so much we can do to put some discipline into players. Even Rickie lambert is quick to admit that he didn't treat his body seriously, and he was about 27 at the time. whatever happened to self responsibility?
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Post by basel on Jun 19, 2014 15:08:19 GMT
It is not beyond Rovers to get a nutritionist in for a day and to show players a spot on sports diet for the season.
A good diet for sport is nothing new for goodness sake,it's been around for decades now!
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Jun 19, 2014 15:14:13 GMT
"You get more guidance because you’ve got more staff who are giving you input" Interesting...
Also where does it say that we don't tell the players what to eat properly? All it says is "and the food at the training ground is a great example of what you should be eating at home." But lets have a moan about something we don't know anything about.
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Post by brizzle on Jun 19, 2014 15:16:41 GMT
Putting to one side the matter of the nutritionist, what really bugs me in this story is the steady drip-drip of talent leaving the club. I realise that it's inevitable for all sorts of reasons, and I really do wish the players well for the future, but isn't it a shame to see a lad like Matt Macey being picked-up for peanuts by a ''big'' club? As I have said I do wish him well, and I hope that his transfer leads on to greater things for him, unlike Scott Sinclair who was ditched by Chelsea in similar circumstances. Although Sinclair's bank balance may well be healthy, he hasn't achieved (so far at least) a settled first-team spot which I suspect is what he wanted. In his case I think it was a case of too much, far too soon. Now Ellis Harrison would be a far different story.
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Post by PessimistGas on Jun 19, 2014 15:17:58 GMT
That's bizarre. That's one thing we could do as well as Arsenal and without it actually costing anything. Very poor if we can't even get basic stuff like that right. Agreed, you don't need to be a Premiership club to get the basics like nutrition right.
That was quite a good article, I hope he does well there.
Was it Pardew who said that Lambert wasn't as fit at he should be when arriving at Southampton because he liked a pie a pint?
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Post by mehewmagic on Jun 19, 2014 15:30:47 GMT
Agreed, you don't need to be a Premiership club to get the basics like nutrition right.
That was quite a good article, I hope he does well there.
Was it Pardew who said that Lambert wasn't as fit at he should be when arriving at Southampton because he liked a pie a pint? yes. he said he was shocked at the state he was in! and rickie has admitted he was right. not a nice endorsement for us, especially as we were trained at the army base in Colerne at the time. BUT only so much a club can do for a player. Can't teach him to piss and s**t for himself.
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Post by RG2 Gas on Jun 19, 2014 15:36:30 GMT
Was it Pardew who said that Lambert wasn't as fit at he should be when arriving at Southampton because he liked a pie a pint? yes. he said he was shocked at the state he was in! and rickie has admitted he was right. not a nice endorsement for us, especially as we were trained at the army base in Colerne at the time. BUT only so much a club can do for a player. Can't teach him to piss and s*** for himself. Really? Yes, ultimate responsibility for any players fitness is of course themselves, yet Pardew / Southampton seemed to do the right things to encourage him to get properly into shape? I wonder what they did differently given there was nothing more Rovers could have done?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 15:40:11 GMT
It is not beyond Rovers to get a nutritionist in for a day and to show players a spot on sports diet for the season. A good diet for sport is nothing new for goodness sake,it's been around for decades now! i think PT had a nutritionist because i remember reading a post on the OF about his "diet" for the team... Lots of Carbs i believe before & after the game
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Post by Gashead on Jun 19, 2014 16:00:51 GMT
yes. he said he was shocked at the state he was in! and rickie has admitted he was right. not a nice endorsement for us, especially as we were trained at the army base in Colerne at the time. BUT only so much a club can do for a player. Can't teach him to piss and s*** for himself. Really? Yes, ultimate responsibility for any players fitness is of course themselves, yet Pardew / Southampton seemed to do the right things to encourage him to get properly into shape? I wonder what they did differently given there was nothing more Rovers could have done? A s**t tonne of staff and much better facilities/equipment, I imagine. Having visited Villa's training ground a long time ago, the amount of data they collect is crazy, measuring all sorts of stuff which you'd imagine simply isn't financially feasible at the Rovers. I remember seeing videos of the sports scientists at Wolves too, brilliant equipment at the club's ground which can perhaps only be emulated at BRFC via the use of external help (ultimately more costly too), like the cyrotherapy stuff in Bristol which I've seen a few of our players use. The building of the UWE will hopefully allow us to branch out in that department, particularly if a decent training ground follows. P.S. Lambert himself admitted that he only began to 'take football seriously' after moving to Southampton, so I think the player was partially to blame for the 'pie and pint' stuff too. Not that he ever struggled here
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Post by basel on Jun 19, 2014 16:02:27 GMT
It is not beyond Rovers to get a nutritionist in for a day and to show players a spot on sports diet for the season. A good diet for sport is nothing new for goodness sake,it's been around for decades now! i think PT had a nutritionist because i remember reading a post on the OF about his "diet" for the team... Lots of Carbs i believe before & after the game Yeh,it's not a question of board bashing,it's a question of Rovers taking advantage of the advice that is out there and has been for decades. One day with an expert could sort out diet for the season for the entire squad. We can't afford a an expert full time,but we can't afford not to show some professionalism in our attitude. Yeh,i think PT introduced some good habits (or tried to) with a certain Rickie Lambert being helped along.
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Post by Pirate Stu on Jun 19, 2014 16:05:24 GMT
It is not beyond Rovers to get a nutritionist in for a day and to show players a spot on sports diet for the season. A good diet for sport is nothing new for goodness sake,it's been around for decades now! i think PT had a nutritionist because i remember reading a post on the OF about his "diet" for the team... Lots of Carbs i believe before & after the game Beer's packed with carbs!
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