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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 26, 2015 9:33:50 GMT
that's really uncalled for IMO. Lacks manners
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Post by Peter Parker on Feb 26, 2015 9:43:38 GMT
Some people like to pick up and run with any little thing that can be seen to discredit either the Club or officials within the club. Not many but they are very consistent with their approach. All of a sudden very concerned GD hasn't got a ticket for a dance - I give up! Not long ago GD was the arch villan.......? I don't know what the true story is, but I think you will find that most peoples opinions were that nobody should be barred from the club (with the obvious exceptions)
I am not Geoff's biggest fan, but for better or worse he gave 30 years of his life to BRFC, and I would be disappointed if it was true he was not allowed to attend a club event
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 9:46:11 GMT
that's really uncalled for IMO. Lacks manners It suits this posters agenda though.
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Post by nit3owl64 on Feb 26, 2015 9:47:32 GMT
Rumours of the next board member writing a book: Watola - Successful Financial Management - "My hell planning for relegation & promotion in 15 minutes"!!! Or "I never saw it coming - The secret diary of Toni Watola." Is it a self help book?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 9:52:33 GMT
Some people like to pick up and run with any little thing that can be seen to discredit either the Club or officials within the club. Not many but they are very consistent with their approach. All of a sudden very concerned GD hasn't got a ticket for a dance - I give up! Not long ago GD was the arch villan.......? I don't know what the true story is, but I think you will find that most peoples opinions were that nobody should be barred from the club (with the obvious exceptions)
I am not Geoff's biggest fan, but for better or worse he gave 30 years of his life to BRFC, and I would be disappointed if it was true he was not allowed to attend a club event
Exactly right PP. The majority who have posted on the subject do so arguing what is right and wrong and written into the clubs shareholders agreement is a clause that stipulates that a director who has served 5 years is invited to become a VP of the club. It doesn't state that they should also be refused admittance to official club functions. There is a definite pattern emerging from the very top of BRFC and if people want to ignore it then that is their choice but it's not the all in it together attitude which got us through the Twerton years and endeared so many people to what was a very special club. Still, the team are top of non league and Higgs will be the first on the pitch when we win promotion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 10:06:20 GMT
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Post by manchestergas on Feb 26, 2015 10:38:18 GMT
Rumours of the next board member writing a book: Watola - Successful Financial Management - "My hell planning for relegation & promotion in 15 minutes"!!! Or "I never saw it coming - The secret diary of Toni Watola." '70 minutes is a long time in football' 'relegation and promotion in two easy moves' 'I didn't see that coming' 'Relegation is not option, but is a possibility'
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Post by Curly Wurly on Feb 26, 2015 10:46:38 GMT
..... written into the clubs shareholders agreement is a clause that stipulates that a director who has served 5 years is invited to become a VP of the club........ There is a definite pattern emerging from the very top of BRFC and if people want to ignore it then that is their choice but it's not the all in it together attitude which got us through the Twerton years and endeared so many people to what was a very special club.... I didn't know about this clause and despite some having misgivings over Geoff Dunford's stewardship as chairman and director, I am still convinced that there would not be a Bristol Rovers without his intervention and the direction of his father. I would still like to think that VP status would be granted in the near future as a result, but to be honest, I think Geoff can probably afford a season ticket anyway On the pattern emerging, one does detect a seige mentality that you are either with us or against us and dissent or disagreement will not be tolerated. I hope this perceived trend can be revesed.
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Post by The Gas on Feb 26, 2015 10:54:10 GMT
..... written into the clubs shareholders agreement is a clause that stipulates that a director who has served 5 years is invited to become a VP of the club........ There is a definite pattern emerging from the very top of BRFC and if people want to ignore it then that is their choice but it's not the all in it together attitude which got us through the Twerton years and endeared so many people to what was a very special club.... I didn't know about this clause and despite some having misgivings over Geoff Dunford's stewardship as chairman and director, I am still convinced that there would not be a Bristol Rovers without his intervention and the direction of his father. I would still like to think that VP status would be granted in the near future as a result, but to be honest, I think Geoff can probably afford a season ticket anyway On the pattern emerging, one does detect a seige mentality that you are either with us or against us and dissent or disagreement will not be tolerated. I hope this perceived trend can be revesed. GD has his own box so does not need any hand outs from BRFC.
I suspect that we have not heard the last from him and his book will make an interesting read .
I have it on my Christmas wish list.
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 26, 2015 10:58:46 GMT
so here's a bit of wild speculation......
NH is a very straight-forward and straight-talking sort of a chap. Maybe even minor bull in china shop tendencies. GD is, as per this thread, perceived as crafty or manipulative or less straight-forward
GD gets his own way that way, and doesn't like being rail-roaded, and NH picks up on his wriggling and discomfort. With high stakes at the moment (mainly the stadium, but a bit with promotion too), NH doesn't want any additional risk, and so things become more tense....
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Post by Bath Gas on Feb 26, 2015 11:29:31 GMT
@geoffdunford: @m_b_1972 yes Matt. When we enquired we were told it was too political to let us attend. #UTG
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 11:38:19 GMT
so here's a bit of wild speculation...... NH is a very straight-forward and straight-talking sort of a chap. Maybe even minor bull in china shop tendencies. GD is, as per this thread, perceived as crafty or manipulative or less straight-forward GD gets his own way that way, and doesn't like being rail-roaded, and NH picks up on his wriggling and discomfort. With high stakes at the moment (mainly the stadium, but a bit with promotion too), NH doesn't want any additional risk, and so things become more tense.... ...or GD threw stones at NH in the carpark.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Feb 26, 2015 11:51:46 GMT
Firstly I couldn't give a toss whether GD wanted to go or wasn't allowed to go in the same score that I don't give a toss about KS and RJ and the he said, she said, hanky waving cat fighting that has been going on for the last 2 years. I mean really, eveyone needs to grow up on that score. I rather watch football and Rovers at that.
The real hero in the Dunford family was Denis. He was the tenacious one who saved our club.
GD reign as chairman was hardly graced with success. He narrowly avoided a drop to the conference, employed countless poor managers for 4 years, put the club up for sale, then had the gall to say he handed a promotion squad over to Rob Craig! All this and made a bucket from charging The club to use his other business interests. And when he did leave the board it was us relegated to the conference.
What a legacy he left indeed.
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Post by toteend on Feb 26, 2015 11:58:01 GMT
KP. You really ought to lie down and take a pill. I haven't made any comment on the thread re Valentines Ball anywhere.
If you are going by what my young un posted , that's your problem pal.
As it happens the route of the story on the other forum was what NH apparently stated in the West Stand on Saturday. How does that put me in the GD stable?
You really have a pathological hatred of being called to account if this is anything to go by. In fact I didn't even know you had commented on it.
GD has now tweeted his version of events, and you now pay your money and take your choice.
If you want my opinion, I believe GD's tweet.Now that puts me in his camp I suppose. In fact all it means is we have it direct from GD. But I don't know first hand what NH said.
Go to the Q and A next week and ask him yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 12:11:56 GMT
so here's a bit of wild speculation...... NH is a very straight-forward and straight-talking sort of a chap. Maybe even minor bull in china shop tendencies. GD is, as per this thread, perceived as crafty or manipulative or less straight-forward GD gets his own way that way, and doesn't like being rail-roaded, and NH picks up on his wriggling and discomfort. With high stakes at the moment (mainly the stadium, but a bit with promotion too), NH doesn't want any additional risk, and so things become more tense.... ...or GD threw stones at NH in the carpark. Or Geoff publically disassociated himself from the abject performance of the board for the last 2 years? Not sure how 'straight talking' Nick is, Twentyman struggled a bit when interviewing him about Sainsbury's, there's still a bit of a discrepancy between what he's saying and what Kevin Spencer is saying (I have no idea which version is more accurate though) and wasn't Nick Chairman when we were all told to go to Whadden Road to choose seats for the following season?
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Post by irishrover on Feb 26, 2015 12:32:07 GMT
@geoffdunford: @m_b_1972 yes Matt. When we enquired we were told it was too political to let us attend. #UTG I have very little interest in this subject but as regards settling the petty argument this does strike me as something in the realm of 'game, set and match'. I'll say this much - the ridiculous defensiveness of people who claim to be closer to the club and some of the people involved, and the refusal to acknowledge any possible fault on their part makes me more sympathetic in the other direction. There is no humility coming out of the club, yet so much to be humble about. Instead, there continues to be a bizarre paranoia and insecurity which appears to manifest itself in a closing of ever smaller ranks and something along the lines of 'don't ask any questions, don't expect any answers and if it must happen it will happen entirely on the terms of those doing the answering'. It's like a closed club of people that takes great pleasure in creating a siege mentality of 'us' against 'them'. It's pretty unappealing, has achieved nothing except implementing a 'my way or the high way' view and in the long run it's just not a sustainable way to run anything.
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Post by dagnogo on Feb 26, 2015 13:11:09 GMT
Irish is right.
Remember - for years a lot of club information was leaked via the Gas List - a small Yahoo usergroup.
Sums things up perfectly.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Feb 26, 2015 13:13:51 GMT
About time we had some Truth and Reconciliation all round IMO.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 26, 2015 13:23:30 GMT
Some people like to pick up and run with any little thing that can be seen to discredit either the Club or officials within the club. Not many but they are very consistent with their approach. All of a sudden very concerned GD hasn't got a ticket for a dance - I give up! Not long ago GD was the arch villan.......? I don't know what the true story is, but I think you will find that most peoples opinions were that nobody should be barred from the club (with the obvious exceptions)
I am not Geoff's biggest fan, but for better or worse he gave 30 years of his life to BRFC, and I would be disappointed if it was true he was not allowed to attend a club event
Exactly. You know well that I & the Mrs have had our run in with Geoff but he is gas through & through, no doubt of that. This is not about point scoring but about the ability of one man to have the power to just belittle and ban people from the club. I am astounded others just don't care and are so blase about it but I can see I am pissing into the wind. This could be you, your best friend or family member. A line from the manics comes to mind. If you tolerate this then your children will be next. A true leader will create more leaders but we have an insecure leader who feels it fit to do as he will and he now knows we accept it and some even seem to like it. To truly galvanise support he should rescind the ban of KS and stop acting in the manner he has and is. I guess we all know many disenchanted Rovers fans, who no longer come. I do, many families. The thing is we really have potential to be a fairly big club. It would be fantastic to go into the future with everyone onboard. I am not holding my breath. Roger and out.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 26, 2015 13:30:01 GMT
KP. You really ought to lie down and take a pill. I haven't made any comment on the thread re Valentines Ball anywhere. If you are going by what my young un posted , that's your problem pal. As it happens the route of the story on the other forum was what NH apparently stated in the West Stand on Saturday. How does that put me in the GD stable? You really have a pathological hatred of being called to account if this is anything to go by. In fact I didn't even know you had commented on it. GD has now tweeted his version of events, and you now pay your money and take your choice. If you want my opinion, I believe GD's tweet.Now that puts me in his camp I suppose. In fact all it means is we have it direct from GD. But I don't know first hand what NH said. Go to the Q and A next week and ask him yourself. Apologies as I thought Gasincider was you. It's fairly obvious what happened now if you see Geoff's lates tweet about political reasons. For once I feel Geoff has been hard done by and if history is anything to go by the a ban will be next. See, you think of me what you will but I love the club and it hurts the f-:k out of me not to go but I cant, I won't while this sort of stuff goes on. It's not in my character to let it go without at least trying to help ANYONE who has been f----d over and KS is a mate. Would you allow a friend to be treated like that and just carry on ? Really ? I do get het up, I admit that but Paul and his ilk will do that knowing they get a reaction. Again, sorry as I thought the username was you as your boy writes very much like you.
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