LPGas
Stuart Taylor
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Post by LPGas on Nov 23, 2014 13:41:20 GMT
Well listened to the game yesterday as I recover from a mystery bug. Yes disappointed that we lost a 2 goal lead and wondered would we have done so if Trotman had played? Also wondered if we would have scored more with a different attack. Who knows we can all speculate. What I couldn't believe was one caller calling for Clarke to be sacked, (I immediately thought that it must be near Christmas) and then of course there are those who call for his head on here every week. It is interesting that they say "he must go" but their is never a "and be replaced by......" in their sentence. So lets think of all those successful managers that have a good knowledge of the Conference and league 2, and have good contacts, and who are unemployed, and would come to Bristol AND be successful.
Personally I cannot think of any. Sacking managers is the reason we are where we are. Personally I blame Higgs. My personal choice at the beginning of all this was to have Cambell and Hinton. They should in my opinion have had the opportunity to have taken us up. Instead we had Buckle, he got in a new team of has beens and journeymen and took us to the bottom. The excuses were that the team had to gel, and that we were all thick. We all know what happens next.
If we sacked Clarke, we would throw away any chance of promotion this season. He has brought in lots of players (who want to play for us) and has not used the "time to gel" excuse. He is honest and is doing the best for us. In my opinion we are doing ok.
I am not a "we are Bristol Rovers and we shouldn't be here" or "we are Bristol Rovers and we should beat everyone" type of person. Why? Because I have realised where we are and what we are. We are a Conference club with a "goodish" Conference team. Clarke has said that building the team would take time and it has, and yes it is getting better, and yes he has players on good money who he would like to get rid of, but he has been hamstrung by the contracts given out by Ward and Co.
I'm not a keep the faith person, except when it comes to myself and God, but Clarke is doing his best, and to be honest if it takes another season, so be it, but Clarke is the man to do it. So, support the team, support the manager, and think "actually if Ward / Buckle / Mc Ghee had half the nouse and worked as hard that Clarke has, we could have been in league one.
If Clarke is "out of his depth" lets hope he drowns, and takes us up
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toteend
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Post by toteend on Nov 23, 2014 14:22:23 GMT
Stuart Campbell. Hang on a minute. That's the guy who threw his toys out of the pram when Dave Penney was appointed and got the rest of the team to not play until Penney was removed.
And he was the same prat who kept us down for so long that when he eventually got asked to run things he ran out of time trying to recover the situation.
Oh that guy. The same one that got us relegated. Yeah good choice. Ffs.
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gas2
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Post by gas2 on Nov 23, 2014 14:26:11 GMT
clarke has turned it around leave the bloke to get on with the job
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dagnogo
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Post by dagnogo on Nov 23, 2014 14:57:18 GMT
Absolutely no way should Clarke be sacked!
We're sixth, largely due to a lack of goals. We've signed two strikers and conceding twice yesterday was a blip, as our defensive record is decent for once.
Sacking managers every 2 minutes got us where we are today, and let's be honest, Higgs either doesn't pick good managers or doesn't give managers the environment to succeed so what is the point in changing the manager?
Clarke seems to have recruited able, honest players and the squad seem united behind him.
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 23, 2014 15:28:13 GMT
Agree totally. Clarke must stay and as for Campbell..the further away the better. I blame him,Anthony,Coles Totally for our relegation. They had the talent to play for the Manager and keep us up. Total wasters. Rather have not so abled players who give everything and that is what we have with a young up and coming Manager who will make mistakes (they all do) but I am sure will learn from them.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 23, 2014 16:04:31 GMT
I think all of us have pondered the 'what if' scenario.
Fact is we are two points off 2nd place. I think most Gas would have taken that half way through season.
We are where we deserve to be, all of us want better, some of us expect it, but in reality we have to remember:
I) Someone had to physically grab the reigns, turn up, have an idea how to lead an arguably giant club in uncharted waters of non league. Show up every day when we were at our lowest and darkest place.
II) We supporters had a role to play in literally supporting financially and vocally the club. In vast majority of occasions we have done that.
III) The board have made steps in the right direction with offering variety and discount on admission fees, and had hard decisions to make regarding redundancies. They had to put aside differences to plug a sinking ship.
To conclude, it's been a traumatic six months being involved with Bristol Rovers but there is a chink (not in a Malky way) of light there with on field potential.
And come on (?) when we we last involved in a promotion battle in October/November/December? Not in this century, that's for sure....Sure, things aren't perfect, but that's what being a GasHead is all about!
Let's celebrate and support.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Nov 23, 2014 17:03:39 GMT
I am amazed when I hear people saying Clarke must win the Barnet game or lose his job. As others have said, we are pushing for promotion, have players who give a 100% and make me proud again.
Let's all support the team and if it does not happen this season lets give him our support as I convinced he will take us back given the time.
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brizzle
Lindsay Parsons
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Post by brizzle on Nov 23, 2014 17:12:21 GMT
Agree totally. Clarke must stay and as for Campbell..the further away the better. I blame him, Anthony,Coles Totally for our relegation. They had the talent to play for the Manager and keep us up. Total wasters. Rather have not so abled players who give everything and that is what we have with a young up and coming Manager who will make mistakes (they all do) but I am sure will learn from them. Careful what you're saying steve, you're in the heartland of ''Lord'' Anthony.
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Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 17:21:21 GMT
Don't believe it either.BBC Red button/Ceefax to-day states,'Rickie Lambert could return to his former club on a six month loan!!!!!!!' Sadly some team called Southampton it goes on to say.
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Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 17:53:12 GMT
I couldn't give a monkeys how many points off 2nd we are. We're 11 points off top, which is what matters.
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Bridgeman
Alfie Biggs
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Post by Bridgeman on Nov 23, 2014 18:01:35 GMT
Don't believe it either.BBC Red button/Ceefax to-day states,'Rickie Lambert could return to his former club on a six month loan!!!!!!!' Sadly some team called Southampton it goes on to say. Although I feel for him because he has been given few opportunities at Liverpool why would Southampton want him back, they appear to be doing pretty well without him. I guess it would be interesting to know Rickie's views on it.....
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dagnogo
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Post by dagnogo on Nov 23, 2014 18:27:52 GMT
I couldn't give a monkeys how many points off 2nd we are. We're 11 points off top, which is what matters. Did you expect us to win the title? Clubs get relegated from the Football League because they're badly run so to bounce straight back is difficult.
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Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 18:31:09 GMT
I couldn't give a monkeys how many points off 2nd we are. We're 11 points off top, which is what matters. Did you expect us to win the title? Clubs get relegated from the Football League because they're badly run so to bounce straight back is difficult. I expect us to be a Football League club, I'll keep demanding we finish top until we are one again
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dagnogo
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Post by dagnogo on Nov 23, 2014 18:33:01 GMT
Did you expect us to win the title? Clubs get relegated from the Football League because they're badly run so to bounce straight back is difficult. I expect us to be a Football League club, I'll keep demanding we finish top until we are one again Well that's fair enough Clarke is doing as well as anyone could to achieve that IMHO, talk of sacking him is bonkers.
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Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 18:35:25 GMT
I agree.
I'm right behind the team and the manager but I'm afraid that's not the same as being at all satisfied with where we are.
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dagnogo
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Post by dagnogo on Nov 23, 2014 19:15:14 GMT
Nobody should be, I agree. It's a disgrace to the club that it finds itself in the fifth tier.
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Post by westbourne gas on Nov 23, 2014 19:52:52 GMT
As a matter of fact yes I did expect us to win the title. Also I think the sooner Clarke is replaced by an experienced manager the better. I will never accept Clarke after he got us relegated. I would love to see Gary Johnson managing us. He would very quickly sort this lot out . I am sick of watching the worst Gas team in my 58 years. Im not interested in what the rose tinters think the sooner he goes the better.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 23, 2014 20:01:19 GMT
I couldn't give a monkeys how many points off 2nd we are. We're 11 points off top, which is what matters. Did you expect us to win the title? Clubs get relegated from the Football League because they're badly run so to bounce straight back is difficult. Not sure that's really the case at Rovers as most clubs who go down have major financial problems i.e. Luton in the past, Hereford & Aldershot last season, our BoD have kept us a float so money/transfer funds doesn't seem to be an issue. If we can't win this week it'll be 2 wins from 12 games and however you dress that up it's not Play Off form. If we can't win either of these two home games which games are we going to win this side of New Year's day? I don't get the love in with DC as his results since he replaced JW have probably been the worse of any Rovers managers, bar Penney, in recent memory. It really is time for DC to deliver this week or we can forget the Play Offs if he remains in charge, which I doubt is something the BoD will be happy to accept.
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dagnogo
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Post by dagnogo on Nov 23, 2014 20:22:01 GMT
I think there's a reason why almost no-one goes straight back up,you need to rebuild your club after relegation out of the league and that can take time, money problems or not.
It's not about being a "rose tinter" or a moaner, this division is tough.
That said, failure to make the top 5 would mean DC has failed. We're on a poor run but he's signed strikers now and as someone else said, Chester are good at home.
I have no idea what sacking him would achieve. He's built the squad and they're behind him.
As with every time we sack a manager, and haven't they worked out well, people seem to either have unreasonable expectations about who we'd get in, or no idea at all.
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Gastee
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Post by Gastee on Nov 23, 2014 20:45:33 GMT
Some people are never satisfied. Some delusion still around amongst some thinking we should be winning every game (because we're used to that of course). Yes we have been poor at times, yes we do need to win more of these games to maintain playoff pace but we were never going to win the league IMO. 1 loss in 14 league games shows we have something about us, still think we'll come good.
Let DC get on with the job for heavens sake.
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