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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 15:10:03 GMT
Good points. I really don't get the angst about the training ground, these posters make it sound as though we are training in the middle of an abandoned building site! JB requested some upgrades when he arrived, and those have been implemented. We've come a long way from using portacabins and flooded training pitches at Fry's. But the club and more particularly the fans are more fragmented than they have ever beenI would suggest the total opposite is the case
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 15:11:12 GMT
Really entertaining thread. Well done everyone. Also great to see for many the bar is still on the floor. What a daft little club.
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Post by padstow on Jan 22, 2023 15:18:49 GMT
But the club and more particularly the fans are more fragmented than they have ever been Really? I'm certainly not picking up that we have a fragmented fanbase on matchdays. As for "the club", the players are very much bonded as a group - no idea about other staff, apart from finding the people I deal with to be very helpful and a credit to the club. If that is true then why are posters on both forum attacked for not following the party line?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 15:21:28 GMT
Think there are still those who are bitter about something or other, probably their lack of influence nowadys, as proved by this thread. Someone has chosen to send something that is clearly a private matter to Swiss in the knowledge that he will post it on a public forum. Possibly even requested him to do so.
Which then leads to some jumping on it as "evidence" that WAQ does not have the clubs or fans best interests at heart. This will then become 'forum fact' and be quoted to others.
But for 99.9% of the fanbase its not at all relevent in the overall scheme of things.
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Post by padstow on Jan 22, 2023 15:21:30 GMT
But the club and more particularly the fans are more fragmented than they have ever been I would suggest the total opposite is the case I beg to differ.anyone who has a non positive pro owner opinion is verbally attacked and accused of supporting the other side in bristol..aye they are a bit more worried about the club and its future and not blinded by optimism
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 15:23:13 GMT
Tiny numbers I would suggest
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Post by padstow on Jan 22, 2023 15:36:30 GMT
Think there are still those who are bitter about something or other, probably their lack of influence nowadys, as proved by this thread. Someone has chosen to send something that is clearly a private matter to Swiss in the knowledge that he will post it on a public forum. Possibly even requested him to do so. Which then leads to some jumping on it as "evidence" that WAQ does not have the clubs or fans best interests at heart. This will then become 'forum fact' and be quoted to others. But for 99.9% of the fanbase its not at all relevent in the overall scheme of things. In all honesty if it wasn't for leaks then all we would have is supposition and even more attacks on pisyers
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 22, 2023 16:21:20 GMT
Think there are still those who are bitter about something or other, probably their lack of influence nowadys, as proved by this thread. Someone has chosen to send something that is clearly a private matter to Swiss in the knowledge that he will post it on a public forum. Possibly even requested him to do so. Which then leads to some jumping on it as "evidence" that WAQ does not have the clubs or fans best interests at heart. This will then become 'forum fact' and be quoted to others. But for 99.9% of the fanbase its not at all relevent in the overall scheme of things. Indeed, the majority do not read or use a forum
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Post by Bath Gas on Jan 22, 2023 16:22:58 GMT
Really? I'm certainly not picking up that we have a fragmented fanbase on matchdays. As for "the club", the players are very much bonded as a group - no idea about other staff, apart from finding the people I deal with to be very helpful and a credit to the club. If that is true then why are posters on both forum attacked for not following the party line? I don't think that a small number of people having a difference of opinion on an internet forum is evidence of the "fans being more fragmented than they have ever been".
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Post by padstow on Jan 22, 2023 16:29:46 GMT
If that is true then why are posters on both forum attacked for not following the party line? I don't think that a small number of people having a difference of opinion on an internet forum is evidence of the "fans being more fragmented than they have ever been". Or maybe I should have said intolerance is far greater.it strikes me as it is a case of agree with my opinion or you go to Ashton gate
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Post by droitwichgas on Jan 22, 2023 17:18:46 GMT
What a load of total nonsense.
Are you seriously suggesting there have been no improvements?
The best training ground we have ever had - championship quality pitches The bars transformed (from one of the most depressing & ininviting place I have ever drank in) Social media presence is excellent, (the promotion videos on You Tube and Twitter were superb) Club shop transformed, on line shop improved hugely
Ticketing much easier for those who live a distance from the stadium (all be it with a few issues at the start)
Hospitality suite much improved and better quality Fanzone has hugely improved the matchday experience for many
So many more youngsters now frequenting the Mem
Recruitment so much better than in the past, players who fight for the shirt (and if they dont they are ditched)
A manager who has taken us to a much higher level of professionalism A team who, with a fair wind, might just have a shout of the Play offs and possibly be in the mix with the likes of Derby, Sheff Wed and Ipswich (unlikely I think but who knows) And fundamentally now free of debt
BUT a club who still needs a ground, absolutely, and desperatly needed and which so far WAQ has not delievered.
If you are really saying the above are not improvements I do despair. 99.9 % of the fanbase would agree and the few that don't are either bitter because they no longer have any influence, frequent Gasheads.Org .. or live in the States
Good points. I really don't get the angst about the training ground, these posters make it sound as though we are training in the middle of an abandoned building site! JB requested some upgrades when he arrived, and those have been implemented. We've come a long way from using portacabins and flooded training pitches at Fry's. The club submitted pp for a virtual rebuild of the clubhouse, it was more than just JB asking for a few changes to be made at The Quarters.
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Post by Bath Gas on Jan 22, 2023 18:02:33 GMT
Good points. I really don't get the angst about the training ground, these posters make it sound as though we are training in the middle of an abandoned building site! JB requested some upgrades when he arrived, and those have been implemented. We've come a long way from using portacabins and flooded training pitches at Fry's. The club submitted pp for a virtual rebuild of the clubhouse, it was more than just JB asking for a few changes to be made at The Quarters. I was just stating that what we have there seems to be fit for purpose for those who use it on a daily basis, now that some of the equipment has been upgraded and a few other changes made. Maybe more funding has been diverted into building the team at the moment? Why are some people obsessed with the facilities available, when they aren't the ones who use them?
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 22, 2023 18:16:37 GMT
I haven’t accused Swiss of being a racist. I’ve asked him what his motivation is for posting the half baked, misrepresentative misinformation and why he has a constant agenda. If there is no good material reason continually discredit the owner then it must be personal. Even now when asked directly to explain himself by both me and John M, he’s been evasive, as usual. He hates Wael, we all get it, but why? This place has become a platform for him and others to do so as well. That is why I said that from those who do constantly snipe that I’m suspicious that it being so personal is it down to subconscious racism because I can’t believe for one minute that any supporter would dislike our owner that much that they constantly must public slander him as they do? It goes well beyond cynicism because even a cynic will look at past evidence and be able to understand that Waels motivation is healthy. True the execution may be clumsy at times but no one is perfect. I recall a poster doing a similar hatchet job on Jim Chappel a few years ago Hatchet job? Hahaha. JC engineered his own downfall because he was too weak to stand up to Masters and Hamer and was absolutely complicit in the lies that were being told and the fragrant spreading of misinformation and stood by quite willingly whilst others did it for him. Remember when SC accused Wael of grooming children? Not only did he know the accusation was false, he willing stood by and watched as others pedalled it. Appalling. He had every opportunity to save his own skin but refused and then threatened me with legal action for exposing one of the many lies not even realising it was one of his own that gave me all the evidence and he was too weak to follow that up despite the threats. I can’t stand liars and backstabbers and I’ll happily expose them any day of the weak if their motivation is to destroy the club I support.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jan 22, 2023 19:54:03 GMT
Simple solution to this absolute dumpster of a thread.
Swiss - either go public with your accusations, no riddles, or shut the heck up. It’s really that simple.
As for Wael, again it’s simple. Yes there have been improvements, but as I’ve said before it’s just putting lipstick on a pig. For Wael, as with Higgs, the Dunfords, Flook and Bradshaw, going back to the end of WW2, true success will be when Rovers are in a fit for purpose stadium they can call there own. Yo-Yoing between League One and the Championship, where we were between 1950 and 2000, wouldn’t go amiss either.
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Post by swissgas on Jan 22, 2023 20:03:28 GMT
In view of the content of some of the posts on this thread I won't be responding for the moment.
Similar claims were made on Gaschat in September 2021 but I let it go because I thought the perpetrators realised they had gone too far and would desist in future.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 22, 2023 20:16:16 GMT
Sometimes Swiss you can bulls**t one too many times or lob one too many grenades before it will come winging back in your direction.
90% of the posts you make aren’t worth bothering with simply because we have either heard it all before and your prophecies have failed, it’s only speculation which has little or no foundation or it’s because you add very little to an initial claim that it fizzles away.
With this though you have created the storm and you could have quelled it by simply stating a little more of what you knew, not involving John M and then simply answered a few questions and did what John M asked.
But you bottled it.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Jan 22, 2023 20:17:30 GMT
Good points. I really don't get the angst about the training ground, these posters make it sound as though we are training in the middle of an abandoned building site! JB requested some upgrades when he arrived, and those have been implemented. We've come a long way from using portacabins and flooded training pitches at Fry's. But the club and more particularly the fans are more fragmented than they have ever been Absolute rubbish. I assume you lived under a bush during Higgs regime.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jan 22, 2023 20:17:45 GMT
In view of the content of some of the posts on this thread I won't be responding for the moment. Similar claims were made on Gaschat in September 2021 but I let it go because I thought the perpetrators realised they had gone too far and would desist in future. Sorry, but not good enough. You don’t get away with rumour and conjecture against the owner and the boardroom, then sharing things privately that puts a good man in a bad situation, then run away having lit the fuse. Again.
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Post by bondigas on Jan 22, 2023 21:25:29 GMT
I bet Wael is happy that ITB has reminded everyone about the child grooming allegation on this thread.
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Post by orgasmic on Jan 22, 2023 21:54:07 GMT
I bet Wael is happy that ITB has reminded everyone about the child grooming allegation on this thread. In the interests of accuracy you should probably replace the word allegation with ‘totally unfounded lie.’
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