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Post by syg on Aug 16, 2022 16:06:44 GMT
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Post by One F in Dunford on Aug 16, 2022 16:21:04 GMT
Great read.
Thanks for posting.
UTFG
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Post by baselswh on Aug 16, 2022 16:57:54 GMT
In this day and age,where maybe 40,000,000 Britons (just look at peoples faces as they walk down the street) could do with some kind of mental health help,sporting figures/heroes can be a great example.
They may inspire someone who is struggling to reach out for help.
Speaking to their GP eg,or perhaps reading a book from a qualified psychiatrist or the Tyson Fury story.
Anything to get the ball rolling.
Well done Joe!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2022 17:18:47 GMT
That was balanced, honest, forthright, full of humour and a damned fine read. I thoroughly enjoyed that and admire his candour.
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Post by Teigngas on Aug 16, 2022 18:29:25 GMT
I was just going to post the same article! I too thought it was an excellent read, very candid and interesting.
Initially I was not happy at JB's appointment (but did decide last year life was too short and innocent until proven guilty etc etc). But now I wonder if maybe I jumped to the wrong conclusion initially, after all he wouldn't be the only person/people to have been subject to media "exaggeration" would he?
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Aug 16, 2022 18:38:26 GMT
On Twitter the same people who believe in Guilty until proven innocent also think it’s not OK to not be OK.
It’s a great article.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2022 18:44:18 GMT
I was just going to post the same article! I too thought it was an excellent read, very candid and interesting. Initially I was not happy at JB's appointment (but did decide last year life was too short and innocent until proven guilty etc etc). But now I wonder if maybe I jumped to the wrong conclusion initially, after all he wouldn't be the only person/people to have been subject to media "exaggeration" would he? Couldn't agree more. We all make decisions, assumptions and judgement calls, which are based on our own prejudices (often unintentional). Happy to give the guy the benefit of the doubt now. |
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Post by Bath Gas on Aug 16, 2022 21:01:38 GMT
On Twitter the same people who believe in Guilty until proven innocent also think it’s not OK to not be OK. It’s a great article. I've seen a few of those posts - disgusting. People don't get to pick and chose whether they are affected by mental health issues, regardless of their personal circumstances. |
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Post by toteend3 on Aug 16, 2022 23:23:46 GMT
My upbringing was nowhere near as bad as JB’s. but I ‘crashed and burned’ a few years back and spent three weeks in Southmead Hospital. The thing is unless you got a bandage on your head no one has any idea what you might be going through.
I concur with all the aforementioned replies it is an excellent article and credit to JB for his candour.
UTG
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Post by rufustfirefly on Aug 17, 2022 5:35:32 GMT
I agree with the above comments regarding the Men's Health article, when JB was appointed manager of BRFC my image of the man was largely based on/influenced by the media noise who are always on the look out for a football anti-hero to portray on the back pages.
As a counter to the media hype and to gain an alternative perspective i read 'No Nonsense', JB's autobiography....again, its a candidly good read that offer's his insight into the world of JB.
If you enjoyed the Men's Health interview give 'No Nonsense' a bit of your time, you can pick up a copy on world of books for £4:50.
If you didn't enjoy the article and have long held misgivings about his appointment I would urge you to give this book a try.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Aug 17, 2022 10:21:46 GMT
A lot of deflecting blame, trivializing his violent acts and whitewashing. Did his father have a plan? Well, who'd have known it. Did the Sun actually say he knocked his teeth out? From what I recall he was accused of giving the guy a hefty shove that threw him against a metal pole, resulting in a cracked tooth. The lack of evidence and witnesses got him off. Shouldn't have gone to court is a piss-take and shows that he really doesn't think he's done anything wrong. The same with the assault on his wife. His wife rung it in and witnesses claimed he kicked her in the head. But to B***** it's him being him, nothing to worry about. Sorry, he's got a long way to go yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2022 11:14:37 GMT
"The lack of evidence and witnesses got him off"
Strangely, that's pretty adequate for our judicial system.
As for the other charge, he has not been found guilty of anything.
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Post by scotsgas on Aug 17, 2022 14:18:05 GMT
"The lack of evidence and witnesses got him off" Strangely, that's pretty adequate for our judicial system. As for the other charge, he has not been found guilty of anything. Never allow facts to get in the way of a good argument. |
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Post by dinsdale on Aug 18, 2022 6:57:17 GMT
If there was consistency in football about how to handle situations where Managers or players who are charged with serious violent or sexual offences then there wouldn't have been the issue in the first place. It shouldn't be down to the ethics of the owners.
As for JB nobody is born violent and mental health often has a factor. Everyone deserves a chance to access help and support. If you dont learn and grow from it then thats where the questions need to be asked.
For me its only a matter of time before JB blows up again. I hope he continues to access support and proves me wrong.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 18, 2022 8:05:37 GMT
A lot of deflecting blame, trivializing his violent acts and whitewashing. Did his father have a plan? Well, who'd have known it. Did the Sun actually say he knocked his teeth out? From what I recall he was accused of giving the guy a hefty shove that threw him against a metal pole, resulting in a cracked tooth. The lack of evidence and witnesses got him off. Shouldn't have gone to court is a piss-take and shows that he really doesn't think he's done anything wrong. The same with the assault on his wife. His wife rung it in and witnesses claimed he kicked her in the head. But to B***** it's him being him, nothing to worry about. Sorry, he's got a long way to go yet. Have to agree and i think some on twitter are jumping onto the bandwagon. I have suffered, from the age of 14, with MH and anxiety but, in my family it was a case of deal with it and yet we did. I may not have the greatest of foundations but i have found wats of coping and each has their own way. For me, the last thing i would want is to share my experiences, within a group. I listened to my brothers blame all of their ills upon their childhood and i vowed i would take responsibility for myself. To me, it came across as a bit me too but i had read a fair few of the twitter replies. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 18, 2022 8:07:07 GMT
If there was consistency in football about how to handle situations where Managers or players who are charged with serious violent or sexual offences then there wouldn't have been the issue in the first place. It shouldn't be down to the ethics of the owners. As for JB nobody is born violent and mental health often has a factor. Everyone deserves a chance to access help and support. If you dont learn and grow from it then thats where the questions need to be asked. For me its only a matter of time before JB blows up again. I hope he continues to access support and proves me wrong. Agreed but try to get help from the NHS, for example, the wait for CBT is 2.5 years. It’s appalling, for those that would like this kind of thing. |
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Aug 18, 2022 9:06:13 GMT
"The lack of evidence and witnesses got him off" Strangely, that's pretty adequate for our judicial system. As for the other charge, he has not been found guilty of anything. The point I'm making is it doesn't mean he didn't do it. That's what matters to us supporters and the club. |
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 18, 2022 9:16:13 GMT
If there was consistency in football about how to handle situations where Managers or players who are charged with serious violent or sexual offences then there wouldn't have been the issue in the first place. It shouldn't be down to the ethics of the owners. As for JB nobody is born violent and mental health often has a factor. Everyone deserves a chance to access help and support. If you dont learn and grow from it then thats where the questions need to be asked. For me its only a matter of time before JB blows up again. I hope he continues to access support and proves me wrong. Can't disagree with any of that. Some people think that because he won some football matches that somehow he is miraculously cured of being a violent man. I don't think it 'works' like that. If he is accessing help/therapy - that's good and I hope he sorts himself out. That is a genuine sentiment. Won't get me back to the Mem, but it's a start for him. |
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Post by alftupper on Aug 18, 2022 9:40:28 GMT
If there was consistency in football about how to handle situations where Managers or players who are charged with serious violent or sexual offences then there wouldn't have been the issue in the first place. It shouldn't be down to the ethics of the owners. As for JB nobody is born violent and mental health often has a factor. Everyone deserves a chance to access help and support. If you dont learn and grow from it then thats where the questions need to be asked. For me its only a matter of time before JB blows up again. I hope he continues to access support and proves me wrong. Some people think that because he won some football matches that somehow he is miraculously cured of being a violent man. Who said that? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 10:08:27 GMT
"The lack of evidence and witnesses got him off" Strangely, that's pretty adequate for our judicial system. As for the other charge, he has not been found guilty of anything. The point I'm making is it doesn't mean he didn't do it. That's what matters to us supporters and the club. Oh right, got you. We can pick and choose which guilty or not guilty verdicts we like, depending on prejudice. Please don't ever get on the Supreme Court. |
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