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Post by The Concept on Jan 24, 2022 19:19:02 GMT
I think Joe B***** totally recognises that it's imperative for a fc to be a team. On and off the field of play. To sing from the same sheet. He's achieved it and has built a strong foundation for Rovers to move forwards and upwards. Fair play to WAQ for taking a chance on Joe and again when not sacking him after the Swindon Mem game. We are in the bottom half of the 4th tier,but it's the most excited I've felt about our football club in years. This team thoroughly deserves our support and I hope for a steady increase in Mem attendances in this second half of the season. We're lucky. We have our El Presidente that apart from having a few bob,is prepared to 'try something different'.Eg,hiring Joe B*****. Rovers were stuck in a rut of averageness,we seriously needed something "different ".Something inspiring. I think Joe is our best since Gerry and his Twerton heroes. This is one of those Rovers era's to be enjoyed,I think more Gasheads are seeing this now and it'll show us how a football club is best run. Enjoy it.👍 I wish i shared your enthusiasm but it bothers me that we have people who don't appear to be on the books on the books and there are too many questions on how its being funded. Going on his previous job then he can spend money and i just hope that doesn’t bring problems with it. I admire your loyalty but i feel a certain unease in the air. I can only write as i feel Basel. I certainly do not feel we will make play offs I am a little concerned about the finances too. A couple of years ago we were hearing it was acknowledged the annual loses were unsustainable and the budgeting was in place to improve matters. I wonder whether we are going back the other way now. We don't have Development Team games at the moment (which is a concern in itself to me, in the fact players aren't getting games, and injured players less of a chance to get back match fitness), but look at the current size of our squad - the back page of the programme is an indicator. Rovers v Hartlepool programme listed the squads: - Rovers = 49. - Hartlepool = 25. EDIT: Compare with squad sizes from programmes 3 seasons ago... - 14/04/2019: Rovers 24 / Bradford 33. - 22/04/2019: Rovers 24 / Rochdale 28.
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Post by The Concept on Jan 24, 2022 19:33:41 GMT
'it's the most excited I've felt about our football club in years.' Really? More excited than when we were third in League 1 just over two seasons ago?
We are 15th in L2. Our defence consists of loan players and both Evans and Nicholson will in all probability leave at the end of the season. We have just drawn with a Swindon side managed by Ben Garner who had eight players at the start of the season - yes, they are high in the league, but this is more a reflection of just how poor this league is. Yes, we have games in hand, but for those who think the club is making progress is making progress, I would direct them to last month's 2-0 defeat against farmers from south Gloucestershire. We also made Newport look like Brazil circa 1970. This team is better than the Trollope or Clarke sides that won promotion? No it isn't, and anybody who thinks so is deluding themselves. The club is currently an average league 2 side. That is the fact of the matter. Funny you should mention that, because more people were moaning and groaning and stayed away because Cogs was playing defensive hoofball despite being 3rd in L1 than they are with Joey playing in L2. Go figure. While it's true that attendances were poor under GC, it's the type of supporter we are potentially losing right now that worries me more. There are always the 'fair-weather' fans, who pick and choose their games, only attend when the football is to their liking, or the team is winning. But right now we have: - Many on the forums have said they've stopped attending while JB is here, or withheld their cash, or are spending their money elsewhere. They've even stopped bothering posting on the forums now, and there are many more who have just stayed quiet on the matter all this time. These are long-term dedicated regular fans, who normally follow through both thick and thin. - Because of the pandemic I've not seen or heard from some friends for a long time, and when we have caught up I've been surprised with some of the things they've told me about others: a mutual friend, who went home and away following Rovers every week for years, stopped going when JB was appointed; another friend told me people he works with handed their season-tickets back.
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Post by bloogas on Jan 24, 2022 19:43:23 GMT
Funny you should mention that, because more people were moaning and groaning and stayed away because Cogs was playing defensive hoofball despite being 3rd in L1 than they are with Joey playing in L2. Go figure. While it's true that attendances were poor under GC, it's the type of supporter we are potentially losing right now that worries me more. There are always the 'fair-weather' fans, who pick and choose their games, only attend when the football is to their liking, or the team is winning. But right now we have: - Many on the forums have said they've stopped attending while JB is here, or withheld their cash, or are spending their money elsewhere. They've even stopped bothering posting on the forums now, and there are many more who have just stayed quiet on the matter all this time. These are long-term dedicated regular fans, who normally follow through both thick and thin. - Because of the pandemic I've not seen or heard from some friends for a long time, and when we have caught up I've been surprised with some of the things they've told me about others: a mutual friend, who went home and away following Rovers every week for years, stopped going when JB was appointed; another friend told me people he works with handed their season-tickets back. How many do you reckon? 10? 15? 20? Yes, I've seen those on the forums who loudly trumpet about staying away. They barely get into double figures. Some live in other parts of the country and wouldn't get to many matches anyway. The real reason is simply lack of success, which effectively started under DC when he fell out with Wael.
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Post by The Concept on Jan 24, 2022 20:01:42 GMT
While it's true that attendances were poor under GC, it's the type of supporter we are potentially losing right now that worries me more. There are always the 'fair-weather' fans, who pick and choose their games, only attend when the football is to their liking, or the team is winning. But right now we have: - Many on the forums have said they've stopped attending while JB is here, or withheld their cash, or are spending their money elsewhere. They've even stopped bothering posting on the forums now, and there are many more who have just stayed quiet on the matter all this time. These are long-term dedicated regular fans, who normally follow through both thick and thin. - Because of the pandemic I've not seen or heard from some friends for a long time, and when we have caught up I've been surprised with some of the things they've told me about others: a mutual friend, who went home and away following Rovers every week for years, stopped going when JB was appointed; another friend told me people he works with handed their season-tickets back. How many do you reckon? 10? 15? 20? Yes, I've seen those on the forums who loudly trumpet about staying away. They barely get into double figures. Some live in other parts of the country and wouldn't get to many matches anyway. The real reason is simply lack of success, which effectively started under DC when he fell out with Wael. I've no idea of the numbers. To be honest I don't have that many Rovers friends anyway, so to hear that back from ones who are Rovers was a big surprise. I've already acknowledged crowds were poor under GC. I've already mentioned more people attend when we have a winning team. What I'm specifically talking about is the type of supporter we are losing: the previously every week, die-hard, through thick and thin, rather than the fair-weather.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 24, 2022 20:26:44 GMT
How many do you reckon? 10? 15? 20? Yes, I've seen those on the forums who loudly trumpet about staying away. They barely get into double figures. Some live in other parts of the country and wouldn't get to many matches anyway. The real reason is simply lack of success, which effectively started under DC when he fell out with Wael. I've no idea of the numbers. To be honest I don't have that many Rovers friends anyway, so to hear that back from ones who are Rovers was a big surprise. I've already acknowledged crowds were poor under GC. I've already mentioned more people attend when we have a winning team. What I'm specifically talking about is the type of supporter we are losing: the previously every week, die-hard, through thin and thin, rather than the fair-weather. sorted that for ya
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Post by swissgas on Jan 24, 2022 20:44:44 GMT
How many do you reckon? 10? 15? 20? Yes, I've seen those on the forums who loudly trumpet about staying away. They barely get into double figures. Some live in other parts of the country and wouldn't get to many matches anyway. The real reason is simply lack of success, which effectively started under DC when he fell out with Wael. I've no idea of the numbers. To be honest I don't have that many Rovers friends anyway, so to hear that back from ones who are Rovers was a big surprise. I've already acknowledged crowds were poor under GC. I've already mentioned more people attend when we have a winning team. What I'm specifically talking about is the type of supporter we are losing: the previously every week, die-hard, through thick and thin, rather than the fair-weather. People blame Graham Coughlan's football style for poor attendances but I have a feeling there is more to it. Admittedly that view was expressed at the time and when Ben Garner came in we were told it was because Rovers wanted to play more entertaining football but we know Wael and Graham had fallen out and that Ben was waiting in the wings so the uninspiring football sounds more like an excuse. What is uninspiring about being 4th in League 1 ? I've quickly calculated the 2018/19 attendances and it looks at though Darrell Clarke and Graham Coughlan each had similar amounts in the roughly half the games which they each managed with the average being 8320. But the 2019/20 season started with only 7668 against Wycombe so what happened ? Were Gasheads disappointed with the summer signings or did they have a premonition that Graham was going to start playing boring football ? Graham had enjoyed the same 8000+ crowd levels as DC in the previous season so why did attendances drop so much at the start of 2019/20 and continue to drop after he left leading to an average of 7348 ?
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Post by The Concept on Jan 24, 2022 20:54:05 GMT
I've no idea of the numbers. To be honest I don't have that many Rovers friends anyway, so to hear that back from ones who are Rovers was a big surprise. I've already acknowledged crowds were poor under GC. I've already mentioned more people attend when we have a winning team. What I'm specifically talking about is the type of supporter we are losing: the previously every week, die-hard, through thick and thin, rather than the fair-weather. People blame Graham Coughlan's football style for poor attendances but I have a feeling there is more to it. Admittedly that view was expressed at the time and when Ben Garner came in we were told it was because Rovers wanted to play more entertaining football but we know Wael and Graham had fallen out and that Ben was waiting in the wings so the uninspiring football sounds more like an excuse. What is uninspiring about being 4th in League 1 ? I've quickly calculated the 2018/19 attendances and it looks at though Darrell Clarke and Graham Coughlan each had similar amounts in the roughly half the games which they each managed with the average being 8320. But the 2019/20 season started with only 7668 against Wycombe so what happened ? Were Gasheads disappointed with the summer signings or did they have a premonition that Graham was going to start playing boring football ? Graham had enjoyed the same 8000+ crowd levels as DC in the previous season so why did attendances drop so much at the start of 2019/20 and continue to drop after he left leading to an average of 7348 ? I suppose that split season you already have the season-ticket holders banked, and then the fans come out to will the team on to the Great Escape against relegation. The following season perhaps the magic had gone, the optimism a few years after a promotion had waned? What's your theory Swiss?
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 24, 2022 21:02:51 GMT
I've no idea of the numbers. To be honest I don't have that many Rovers friends anyway, so to hear that back from ones who are Rovers was a big surprise. I've already acknowledged crowds were poor under GC. I've already mentioned more people attend when we have a winning team. What I'm specifically talking about is the type of supporter we are losing: the previously every week, die-hard, through thick and thin, rather than the fair-weather. People blame Graham Coughlan's football style for poor attendances but I have a feeling there is more to it. Admittedly that view was expressed at the time and when Ben Garner came in we were told it was because Rovers wanted to play more entertaining football but we know Wael and Graham had fallen out and that Ben was waiting in the wings so the uninspiring football sounds more like an excuse. What is uninspiring about being 4th in League 1 ? I've quickly calculated the 2018/19 attendances and it looks at though Darrell Clarke and Graham Coughlan each had similar amounts in the roughly half the games which they each managed with the average being 8320. But the 2019/20 season started with only 7668 against Wycombe so what happened ? Were Gasheads disappointed with the summer signings or did they have a premonition that Graham was going to start playing boring football ? Graham had enjoyed the same 8000+ crowd levels as DC in the previous season so why did attendances drop so much at the start of 2019/20 and continue to drop after he left leading to an average of 7348 ? I didn't know Wael and GC had fallen out. Do you know what that was about swiss?
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Post by swissgas on Jan 24, 2022 21:34:40 GMT
People blame Graham Coughlan's football style for poor attendances but I have a feeling there is more to it. Admittedly that view was expressed at the time and when Ben Garner came in we were told it was because Rovers wanted to play more entertaining football but we know Wael and Graham had fallen out and that Ben was waiting in the wings so the uninspiring football sounds more like an excuse. What is uninspiring about being 4th in League 1 ? I've quickly calculated the 2018/19 attendances and it looks at though Darrell Clarke and Graham Coughlan each had similar amounts in the roughly half the games which they each managed with the average being 8320. But the 2019/20 season started with only 7668 against Wycombe so what happened ? Were Gasheads disappointed with the summer signings or did they have a premonition that Graham was going to start playing boring football ? Graham had enjoyed the same 8000+ crowd levels as DC in the previous season so why did attendances drop so much at the start of 2019/20 and continue to drop after he left leading to an average of 7348 ? I suppose that split season you already have the season-ticket holders banked, and then the fans come out to will the team on to the Great Escape against relegation. The following season perhaps the magic had gone, the optimism after a promotion had waned? What's your theory Swiss? To me it all stems back to Darrell Clarke and the supporters you describe as die hard and through thick and thin. I think many of those supporters truly felt, and still feel, that Darrell had his heart and soul in the club and what he said about Rovers when he left was true. They knew Graham Coughlan had galvanised the team to avoid relegation but could see, through the mediocre summer signings ( Jaakkola, Little, Davies, Leahy, Hare) and the Liam Scales transfer saga in which Graham was badly let down, that he was not being given wholehearted support. This video sums up the superficiality of the summer of 2019.
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Post by The Concept on Jan 24, 2022 21:49:24 GMT
I suppose that split season you already have the season-ticket holders banked, and then the fans come out to will the team on to the Great Escape against relegation. The following season perhaps the magic had gone, the optimism after a promotion had waned? What's your theory Swiss? To me it all stems back to Darrell Clarke and the supporters you describe as die hard and through thick and thin. I think many of those supporters truly felt, and still feel, that Darrell had his heart and soul in the club and what he said about Rovers when he left was true. They knew Graham Coughlan had galvanised the team to avoid relegation but could see, through the mediocre summer signings ( Jaakkola, Little, Davies, Leahy, Hare) and the Liam Scales transfer saga in which Graham was badly let down, that he was not being given wholehearted support. This video sums up the superficiality of the summer of 2019. Hmm! Interesting. Well they obviously weren't that die-hard and through thick and thin then!! A far lot worse has happened, and the true supporters still renew their season-tickets.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 24, 2022 22:04:17 GMT
People blame Graham Coughlan's football style for poor attendances but I have a feeling there is more to it. Admittedly that view was expressed at the time and when Ben Garner came in we were told it was because Rovers wanted to play more entertaining football but we know Wael and Graham had fallen out and that Ben was waiting in the wings so the uninspiring football sounds more like an excuse. What is uninspiring about being 4th in League 1 ? I've quickly calculated the 2018/19 attendances and it looks at though Darrell Clarke and Graham Coughlan each had similar amounts in the roughly half the games which they each managed with the average being 8320. But the 2019/20 season started with only 7668 against Wycombe so what happened ? Were Gasheads disappointed with the summer signings or did they have a premonition that Graham was going to start playing boring football ? Graham had enjoyed the same 8000+ crowd levels as DC in the previous season so why did attendances drop so much at the start of 2019/20 and continue to drop after he left leading to an average of 7348 ? I didn't know Wael and GC had fallen out. Do you know what that was about swiss? To my knowledge they hadn’t and I’ve asked the question directly. It was a case of Mansfield offering what we couldn’t and him shouting his mouth off in the press. That upset the club more than anything.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 24, 2022 22:07:54 GMT
Lest we forget that we had been terrible for half a season prior prior to DC leaving. It wasn’t just the season he was let go. It had been something like 30 games of utter dross compacted by disappointing signings like Upson abs Bennet on good money and long contracts and a misfiring strike force who couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo.
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Post by baselswh on Jan 25, 2022 7:49:52 GMT
To me it all stems back to Darrell Clarke and the supporters you describe as die hard and through thick and thin. I think many of those supporters truly felt, and still feel, that Darrell had his heart and soul in the club and what he said about Rovers when he left was true. They knew Graham Coughlan had galvanised the team to avoid relegation but could see, through the mediocre summer signings ( Jaakkola, Little, Davies, Leahy, Hare) and the Liam Scales transfer saga in which Graham was badly let down, that he was not being given wholehearted support. This video sums up the superficiality of the summer of 2019. Hmm! Interesting. Well they obviously weren't that die-hard and through thick and thin then!! A far lot worse has happened, and the true supporters still renew their season-tickets. Talking of Gasheads staying or leaving,anyone know what happened- in attending football matches - to the group that 'stopped' following Rovers in the 'Boardroom Civil War' time?Kevin Spencer,Kim Stuckey and Co v Geoff Dunford,Barry Bradshaw and Co. I can't actually remember the era,it may of been another time ,but I think they started attending Man Utd games (Mangotsfield United) and managed to upset some people there with flares and I don'tmean their choice of trouser!🙂 I think it a time when quite a few across the UK got carried away with 'fans culture'. Eg. Buying shares in Ebbsfleet and joining in their cutting edge vote system to select the teams starting 11!Ridiculous!😊 Did they return to Rovers,I hope so?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 25, 2022 11:01:04 GMT
I wish i shared your enthusiasm but it bothers me that we have people who don't appear to be on the books on the books and there are too many questions on how its being funded. Going on his previous job then he can spend money and i just hope that doesn’t bring problems with it. I admire your loyalty but i feel a certain unease in the air. I can only write as i feel Basel. I certainly do not feel we will make play offs I am a little concerned about the finances too. A couple of years ago we were hearing it was acknowledged the annual loses were unsustainable and the budgeting was in place to improve matters. I wonder whether we are going back the other way now. We don't have Development Team games at the moment (which is a concern in itself to me, in the fact players aren't getting games, and injured players less of a chance to get back match fitness), but look at the current size of our squad - the back page of the programme is an indicator. Rovers v Hartlepool programme listed the squads: - Rovers = 49. - Hartlepool = 25. EDIT: Compare with squad sizes from programmes 3 seasons ago... - 14/04/2019: Rovers 24 / Bradford 33. - 22/04/2019: Rovers 24 / Rochdale 28. It is a valid concern and especially after reading up on Fleetwood and how they are battling to balance their finances out, post JB
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 25, 2022 11:01:12 GMT
While it's true that attendances were poor under GC, it's the type of supporter we are potentially losing right now that worries me more. There are always the 'fair-weather' fans, who pick and choose their games, only attend when the football is to their liking, or the team is winning. But right now we have: - Many on the forums have said they've stopped attending while JB is here, or withheld their cash, or are spending their money elsewhere. They've even stopped bothering posting on the forums now, and there are many more who have just stayed quiet on the matter all this time. These are long-term dedicated regular fans, who normally follow through both thick and thin. - Because of the pandemic I've not seen or heard from some friends for a long time, and when we have caught up I've been surprised with some of the things they've told me about others: a mutual friend, who went home and away following Rovers every week for years, stopped going when JB was appointed; another friend told me people he works with handed their season-tickets back. How many do you reckon? 10? 15? 20? Yes, I've seen those on the forums who loudly trumpet about staying away. They barely get into double figures. Some live in other parts of the country and wouldn't get to many matches anyway. The real reason is simply lack of success, which effectively started under DC when he fell out with Wael. It's obviously very hard to estimate how many people are staying away due to B***** (solely or in part). Just from this site I believe the people below are no longer attending games. Some have totally lost interest in the Club. Some don't log in anymore. Some are overseas. At least 3 are in the Herts/Essex borders - that never used to stop us going. IMHO these people aren't staying away because we lack 'success'. We support Rovers through thick, thin and thinner - unless something truly disgusts us. If I've made a mistake - then I'm happy to be corrected. If I've missed anyone out - please let me know. Myself (obviously) Cheshiregas irishrover JeffNZ @thinwhiteduke Shoveller (flown nest, to return) a more piratey game Pop Harris's Eyebrows (I believe returning after the March B***** Court Case for alleged domestic violence) The Concept Igitur oldie (probably) TaiwanGasswissgas (probably) tanksfull Angas Bamber Gashead (probably) sethstarkadder bondigas Gaschat has a lot more traffic than this site... Roughly 5 times the size I think. So let's estimate a combination of 75-100 not attending games. Gaschat + Gasheads.org are themselves only a small part of the Rovers overall fanbase. Let's say they represent 15%-20%? That then gives very roughly 400 - 500. I would estimate that the number of people staying away solely, or partly, because of B***** is in the several hundreds. Significantly more than 10-20 anyway. It doesn't make 'a difference'. That's not the point. For those that attend and can separate their support for the team from their support of B*****. Not a problem.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 25, 2022 11:09:21 GMT
I didn't know Wael and GC had fallen out. Do you know what that was about swiss? To my knowledge they hadn’t and I’ve asked the question directly. It was a case of Mansfield offering what we couldn’t and him shouting his mouth off in the press. That upset the club more than anything. I can’t help myself but laugh when reading that and because of what the current manager has said, far worse than any other. He is very careful to give praise the WAQ though plus we have now heard DC’’s explanation so it does bring up more questions. I find myself making excuses not to go now as the pandemic plus having the bloody virus, twice, put me off. I’m hoping i get the bug again though. I think having a season start in JULY will help
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2022 11:22:36 GMT
People not attending games despite not living in the UK.
Part timers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2022 11:53:46 GMT
How many do you reckon? 10? 15? 20? Yes, I've seen those on the forums who loudly trumpet about staying away. They barely get into double figures. Some live in other parts of the country and wouldn't get to many matches anyway. The real reason is simply lack of success, which effectively started under DC when he fell out with Wael. It's obviously very hard to estimate how many people are staying away due to B***** (solely or in part). Just from this site I believe the people below are no longer attending games. Some have totally lost interest in the Club. Some don't log in anymore. Some are overseas. At least 3 are in the Herts/Essex borders - that never used to stop us going. IMHO these people aren't staying away because we lack 'success'. We support Rovers through thick, thin and thinner - unless something truly disgusts us. If I've made a mistake - then I'm happy to be corrected. If I've missed anyone out - please let me know. Myself (obviously) Cheshiregas irishrover JeffNZ @thinwhiteduke Shoveller (flown nest, to return) a more piratey game Pop Harris's Eyebrows (I believe returning after the March B***** Court Case for alleged domestic violence) The Concept Igitur oldie (probably) TaiwanGas swissgas (probably) tanksfull Angas Bamber Gashead (probably) sethstarkadder bondigas Gaschat has a lot more traffic than this site... Roughly 5 times the size I think. So let's estimate a combination of 75-100 not attending games. Gaschat + Gasheads.org are themselves only a small part of the Rovers overall fanbase. Let's say they represent 15%-20%? That then gives very roughly 400 - 500. I would estimate that the number of people staying away solely, or partly, because of B***** is in the several hundreds. Significantly more than 10-20 anyway. It doesn't make 'a difference'. That's not the point. For those that attend and can separate their support for the team from their support of B*****. Not a problem. That doesn't really work as they are counted towards attendance, which, unless they are protesting against B***** at matches, serves to endorse him being here, and unless they are getting in for free they are contributing towards his wage. Prior to his arrival I had missed maybe 3 home games in around 20 years. If that makes me a ''part timer'' then probably the club should move everybody to ''part time supporter'' status. As for the suggestion that it's a ''lack of success'' that's keeping me away, quite the opposite. Historically when things have got worse for the club I increase my spend to increase support. That would involve sponsoring players' shirts, moving from terraces in to executive boxes, stopping buying 1 50/50 ticket and buying 10 at each game etc etc.
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Post by JeffNZ on Jan 25, 2022 18:04:59 GMT
People not attending games despite not living in the UK. Part timers. Not bought iFollow since punchy has been in charge, that counts as non attendance in my book.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2022 13:37:14 GMT
Hmm! Interesting. Well they obviously weren't that die-hard and through thick and thin then!! A far lot worse has happened, and the true supporters still renew their season-tickets. Talking of Gasheads staying or leaving,anyone know what happened- in attending football matches - to the group that 'stopped' following Rovers in the 'Boardroom Civil War' time?Kevin Spencer,Kim Stuckey and Co v Geoff Dunford,Barry Bradshaw and Co. I can't actually remember the era,it may of been another time ,but I think they started attending Man Utd games (Mangotsfield United) and managed to upset some people there with flares and I don'tmean their choice of trouser!🙂 I think it a time when quite a few across the UK got carried away with 'fans culture'. Eg. Buying shares in Ebbsfleet and joining in their cutting edge vote system to select the teams starting 11!Ridiculous!😊 Did they return to Rovers,I hope so? Kevin no longer lives in the area, and my understanding is that he was still supporting the club until Punchy tried to attack Wayne Carlisle at Exeter. Wayne is a family member of Kevin's. John Malyckyj is still involved, although not with the SC, he now deals with the Hospital Radio transmissions on match days. But being the decent human being that he is has been in touch with the new SC hierarchy and has made himself available to give any advice / benefit of his experience that they feel may be of use to them. Mike Turl is involved with Solihull Moors, only a few places below Rovers in the football pyramid, and achieving that with a tiny fraction of the resources available to Rovers. From what I gather he broadly implemented the 'Rovers Agenda For Change' at Solihull. One of the prominent SC members at the time has had some health issues, I've not spoken to him for a while. Last I heard, Kim Stuckey was watching Rugby but still followed Rovers' results. I have zero knowledge of any of the people from that period being in trouble for letting off flares. Tell me more.
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