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Post by towngas on Nov 21, 2021 21:28:56 GMT
I don’t believe this, I know it for a fact. Ive witnessed it many times through a previous employment. The cards are heavily stacked against men these days. I hear the Police are being pushed to get more rape convictions. I wonder how many miscarriages of justice will start to appear a few years down the line? Even more worrying than the conviction of Ched Evans. The Police and CPS concealed evidence which undermined the case, and when they were forced to release it he was acquitted. Evans may be a particularly unsavoury character, but he was never a rapist. All those people who put the boot in and twisted the knife when he was wrongly convicted went very quite when he was cleared. Not a single apology. I’m thinking here of that mouthy cow Jessica Ennis. Are you aware of the amount of rapes, sexual assaults via drink spiking etc that go unreported because the victims cant face the whole process ? I used to be with a women who was raped and reported it, the police told her that she would have to go through it all in court and basically scared her out of going forward with a prosecution. I can tell you that she had periods of such depression and fear that it was so hard to see. On another note but close, a fair few men get custody of children after a divorce. I once went to a family court and if i had not seen what happened then i would not habve believed it, please believe me, its not as you say. You’ve just asked an unanswerable question there, because no-one can know the number of unreported incidents because they’re, well, unreported. The Police didn’t scare that woman out of going ahead with any prosecution. They laid out the facts and she decided against it. Complainants don’t even have to attend in person any more. They can testify remotely or from behind screens and their anonymity is preserved, what more can be done? Perhaps you’d only be happy if a conviction can be secured on an untested and uncontested allegation. That seems fair. And finally, it may sometimes be for the best and to the children’s advantage if the court sometimes does award custody to the male, or is it an infallible fact that men will always, always be in the wrong?
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 21, 2021 22:13:10 GMT
All conjecture though. We don't know whether Mrs B***** had previously called the police, so why speculate. I'm no fan of the manager at all, but this site is like a kangaroo court at times. Because its a forum, where we can ask these kind of things. I think that is precisely what its for. Read any other club forum and you will see the same Of course you’re right and others, all forums, probably do discuss these things but that doesn’t necessarily make it right. Best to leave it to the courts to decide on the evidence they have. Not sure some of the stuff is accurate or helpful but it is what it is. I guess everyone decides whether to participate or not. Haven’t got long to wait now, we’ll soon know. UTG!
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Post by Bath Gas on Nov 21, 2021 22:23:47 GMT
So you're saying he's been here too long now? Seriously, I do take your point. But if he'd never been here we wouldn't have to worry about that. A quandary of 'our' own making. Indeed it is, as often seems to be the case at Rovers - lurching from one mistake to the next one.
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Post by towngas on Nov 22, 2021 7:55:25 GMT
Allegations. Exactly, Trymer. If B***** is guilty, I hope he goes to jail. However, nobody has been found guilty yet, other than on here. Sorry? Who has found him guilty of the domestic violence accusations on here? Names please. (To be fair there may be some, but I can't name them). Thanks in advance. You have also been asked to provide a link to support your claim the CPS have released a statement saying B*****’s wife says he grabbed her around the neck etc. Still waiting for that.
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Post by towngas on Nov 22, 2021 7:59:20 GMT
There’s no misogyny in anything I’ve written. All ive said is that men have to have a fair trial. All I’ve said is miscarriages of justice have to be put right. All I’ve said is people who were quick tocondemn aren’t so quick to apologise when they’re proven to be wrong. Youre just arsey because you made a ridiculous statement which I shot down and you had no comeback. It has nothing to do with B***** being manager. You sometimes talk utter rubbish. towngas. You have been banned from Gaschat. You have served a temporary ban from Gasheads.org. Maybe time to reign it in a bit. Resorting to threats I see. Write anything that breaches unwritten but all-powerful ‘Woke’ rules and you will be silenced. Not a million miles from establishing a Nazi regime really.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 8:27:58 GMT
Resorting to threats I see. Write anything that breaches unwritten but all-powerful ‘Woke’ rules and you will be silenced. Not a million miles from establishing a Nazi regime really. Epping Gas did once admit that Gas Guzzler was a front for a forthcoming Nazi regime.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 8:30:14 GMT
The Nazis came to power based on fear, lies, bigotry and a weak government that somehow invited Hitler to be chancellor. What happened next is well documented.
As much as the admin likes to boss us about and some of the pseudo intellectuals and 24 carat frauds* get all uppity, comparing them to an organisation that perpetrated mass murder and genocide, is ridiculous.
*descriptions copyright of a friend of mine who reads this site.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 22, 2021 8:31:29 GMT
Good luck, KP. It's like educating pork. This is what B***** empowers. Misogyny. There’s no misogyny in anything I’ve written. All ive said is that men have to have a fair trial. All I’ve said is miscarriages of justice have to be put right. All I’ve said is people who were quick tocondemn aren’t so quick to apologise when they’re proven to be wrong. Youre just arsey because you made a ridiculous statement which I shot down and you had no comeback. It has nothing to do with B***** being manager. You sometimes talk utter rubbish. Do you not read statistics or deal in facts? Did you not read the stats I posted from the Government's own statisticians? Men are getting more than a fair trial. In fact the majority of rapes go unreported because women get such a hard time. You are just coming across as an apologist for male violence.
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Post by towngas on Nov 22, 2021 8:36:21 GMT
The Nazis came to power based on fear, lies, bigotry and a weak government that somehow invited Hitler to be chancellor. What happened next is well documented. As much as the admin likes to boss us about and some of the pseudo intellectuals and 24 carat frauds* get all uppity, comparing them to an organisation that perpetrated mass murder and genocide, is ridiculous. *descriptions copyright of a friend of mine who reads this site. The point I am making, as I suspect you very well know, is that it is a questionable practice to threaten sanctions against views you may not like but are nevertheless not wrong. The totalitarian regimes, be they far right Nazis or far left Communist operate in exactly the same way. If any of the points I have made regarding Evans conviction or the pillioring of B***** are actually wrong in law, please could someone point them out? They may not be popular with certain people, but are they wrong?
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 22, 2021 8:40:58 GMT
towngas. You have been banned from Gaschat. You have served a temporary ban from Gasheads.org. Maybe time to reign it in a bit. Resorting to threats I see. Write anything that breaches unwritten but all-powerful ‘Woke’ rules and you will be silenced. Not a million miles from establishing a Nazi regime really. 'Woke' and 'snowflake' are attack words used by right wingers on anyone who disagrees with them. Just because someone cares about the female gender and wants to protect them from thuggery doesn't make them 'woke' it means they give a s**t. As for creating a Nazi regime (a pathetic retort about a football forum) you seem to want men to be able to do whatever they want including violence. Speaks volumes.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 22, 2021 8:48:34 GMT
Are you aware of the amount of rapes, sexual assaults via drink spiking etc that go unreported because the victims cant face the whole process ? I used to be with a women who was raped and reported it, the police told her that she would have to go through it all in court and basically scared her out of going forward with a prosecution. I can tell you that she had periods of such depression and fear that it was so hard to see. On another note but close, a fair few men get custody of children after a divorce. I once went to a family court and if i had not seen what happened then i would not habve believed it, please believe me, its not as you say. You’ve just asked an unanswerable question there, because no-one can know the number of unreported incidents because they’re, well, unreported.So you don't believe the Government's own statistics?
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Post by alftupper on Nov 22, 2021 9:06:20 GMT
Resorting to threats I see. Write anything that breaches unwritten but all-powerful ‘Woke’ rules and you will be silenced. Not a million miles from establishing a Nazi regime really. Epping Gas did once admit that Gas Guzzler was a front for a forthcoming Nazi regime. Well, he can do the fighting himself. I`ve been to Russia a few times. It`s f**kin` huge. It takes forever to get anywhere, by jet plane. No way am I marching across it carrying a machine gun, and being shot at and blown up all the way.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 22, 2021 9:14:46 GMT
Epping Gas did once admit that Gas Guzzler was a front for a forthcoming Nazi regime. Well, he can do the fighting himself. I`ve been to Russia a few times. It`s f**kin` huge. It takes forever to get anywhere, by jet plane. No way am I marching across it carrying a machine gun, and being shot at and blown up all the way.
Bloody youngsters, no stamina, I say. Didn't get this attitude in the days of Empire, no Sir.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 22, 2021 9:15:19 GMT
Sorry? Who has found him guilty of the domestic violence accusations on here? Names please. (To be fair there may be some, but I can't name them). Thanks in advance. You have also been asked to provide a link to support your claim the CPS have released a statement saying B*****’s wife says he grabbed her around the neck etc.Still waiting for that. Where did I state that? It's quite difficult to provide a link to something I haven't said. But if you find it, than would be great and I'll look into it. Many thanks.
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 22, 2021 9:16:59 GMT
The Nazis came to power based on fear, lies, bigotry and a weak government that somehow invited Hitler to be chancellor. What happened next is well documented. As much as the admin likes to boss us about and some of the pseudo intellectuals and 24 carat frauds* *descriptions copyright of a friend of mine who reads this site. Wouldn't you just die without Mahler?
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Post by alftupper on Nov 22, 2021 9:18:32 GMT
Well, he can do the fighting himself. I`ve been to Russia a few times. It`s f**kin` huge. It takes forever to get anywhere, by jet plane. No way am I marching across it carrying a machine gun, and being shot at and blown up all the way.
Bloody youngsters, no stamina, I say. Didn't get this attitude in the days of Empire, no Sir. Declare war on Vatican City. As a Rangers fan, I might be prepared to give that one a go.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 22, 2021 9:21:55 GMT
The Nazis came to power based on fear, lies, bigotry and a weak government that somehow invited Hitler to be chancellor. What happened next is well documented. As much as the admin likes to boss us about and some of the pseudo intellectuals and 24 carat frauds* get all uppity, comparing them to an organisation that perpetrated mass murder and genocide, is ridiculous. *descriptions copyright of a friend of mine who reads this site. Godwin's Law: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_lawThere are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[3] than others.[1] For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress.[8] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.[9] I can only aspire to be a 24 carat fraud, currently I'm only 12 carat. Must do better.
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 22, 2021 9:22:30 GMT
Well, he can do the fighting himself. I`ve been to Russia a few times. It`s f**kin` huge. It takes forever to get anywhere, by jet plane. No way am I marching across it carrying a machine gun, and being shot at and blown up all the way.
Bloody youngsters, no stamina, I say. Didn't get this attitude in the days of Empire, no Sir. I bet your Grandpapa served more than a decade in the subcontinent without once removing his tie or loosening his collar, eh Chesh?
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 22, 2021 9:34:48 GMT
towngas. You have been banned from Gaschat. You have served a temporary ban from Gasheads.org. Maybe time to reign it in a bit. Resorting to threats I see. Write anything that breaches unwritten but all-powerful ‘Woke’ rules and you will be silenced. Not a million miles from establishing a Nazi regime really. I asked you to rein it in a bit. I didn't threaten to ban you. I think it's great that we have freedom of speech on here, as long as it doesn't break Forum rules. It means people can put forward a notion, perhaps a stupid one, and other people can then quote things called facts to help educate them. Ich wünsche ihnen einen wunderbaren Tag
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Post by alftupper on Nov 22, 2021 14:07:28 GMT
Bloody youngsters, no stamina, I say. Didn't get this attitude in the days of Empire, no Sir. I bet your Grandpapa served more than a decade in the subcontinent without once removing his tie or loosening his collar, eh Chesh? Overheard at Rorke`s Drift.
Private. "Here they come again..there`s thousands of `em." Officer. "Wait for the order to fire..wait for it..wait for it...SIMPKINS, DO YOUR TOP BUTTON UP. YOU`RE IN THE BRITISH ARMY, GODDAMMIT."
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