kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 19, 2021 18:58:01 GMT
Until B***** goes, I'm not sure I qualify as a Rovers supporter. I want what's best for the Club, but that isn't what we've currently got. I'm glad people had a good night at Rovers last night. I also had a good night, but I was somewhere else. Astafjevs,I hope you - and other non attendees- can decide to attend once more. As for the actual football, on the field of play,I think if Joe stays and WAQ continues to back him we are in for a real treat these next few seasons.As exciting football as Gasheads have ever seen. I mean it. Mines a pint or a smoke of what you are on lol
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Post by absent on Nov 19, 2021 19:56:46 GMT
how is it sanctimonious - I sense no sanctimony? Holier than thou, people in glass houses. no problem with wanting him gone because he’s a Sh1t manager, but all this “Has to go because of his previous behaviour” quite frankly boils my p1ss. The owner, who has paid millions to keep this club afloat seems happy enough and without him I doubt we’d have a club to support. s**t manager, previous behaviour, current behaviour, likelihood of future behaviour...
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Post by towngas on Nov 19, 2021 20:12:25 GMT
Holier than thou, people in glass houses. no problem with wanting him gone because he’s a Sh1t manager, but all this “Has to go because of his previous behaviour” quite frankly boils my p1ss. The owner, who has paid millions to keep this club afloat seems happy enough and without him I doubt we’d have a club to support. s**t manager, previous behaviour, current behaviour, likelihood of future behaviour... I had my doubts about his managerial abilities but recent performances and results have made me re-consider. I believe he has paid his debts with regards to previous behaviour, and was treated more harshly than an unknown person who had committed the same offences. I don’t seek to excuse those matters, but he has done his bird. Present behaviour. Whatever happened to the basic tenet of English law, innocent until proven guilty? Future behaviour. Got a crystal ball, or Tarot cards then Meg? As I said: Sanctimonious, holier than thou twaddle.
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Post by towngas on Nov 19, 2021 20:15:20 GMT
Astafjevs,I hope you - and other non attendees- can decide to attend once more. As for the actual football, on the field of play,I think if Joe stays and WAQ continues to back him we are in for a real treat these next few seasons.As exciting football as Gasheads have ever seen. I mean it. Mines a pint or a smoke of what you are on lol Have you been to a game lately? Against Northampton and both Oxford games, there was some good, fast, along the ground football played. Given time and a couple of windows we could be in for a treat.
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Post by absent on Nov 19, 2021 20:28:42 GMT
s**t manager, previous behaviour, current behaviour, likelihood of future behaviour... I had my doubts about his managerial abilities but recent performances and results have made me re-consider. I believe he has paid his debts with regards to previous behaviour, and was treated more harshly than an unknown person who had committed the same offences. I don’t seek to excuse those matters, but he has done his bird. Present behaviour. Whatever happened to the basic tenet of English law, innocent until proven guilty? Future behaviour. Got a crystal ball, or Tarot cards then Meg? As I said: Sanctimonious, holier than thou twaddle.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 19, 2021 20:51:39 GMT
I just wish I could share the joy of games like last night. But it all just leaves me cold. Can't help the way I feel, can't do anything about it. It's how it's going to be for as long as B***** is here. Last night was the proof of that. I think back to previous times - that game v Yeovil, Worthington Cup v Everton, FA Cup v Fulham that went to the replay with tents and hot air blowers drying out a waterlogged thick with mud pitch, League Cup v Leyton Orient where we just kept giving them goals even when they were down to 9 men but still went on to win ... the list is endless and just thinking about them takes me back to the moment. Now? Nothing. Exactly Angas, you're not alone. I am happy for Gasheads, 100%. It was obviously a great atmosphere. But for me - nothing there any more. My son couldn't make kick off and was absolutely livid he missed it. He was bouncing around his flat. He is as passionate as ever. Someone mentioned our comeback in the pub and I just shrugged my shoulders. You just can't help how you feel. I hope I get 'it' back. Something has 'gone'. Thing is I don’t think it’s just B*****, it is the litany of other things and terrible decision after decision, the turnaround of mangers and the feeling of stagnation. After the second promotion we had really tangible hope of going on and doing more, being more and achieving more but we have ended up in the basement …again and many have just had enough of false hope. Hiring B***** and seeing him basically slag the whole club off, was the final straw for many of us. Personally, i just don’t feel I belong anymore, maybe its age or maybe the pandemic showed me there was more to do that to have my weekend mood being governed by rovers.
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Post by Angas on Nov 19, 2021 21:08:02 GMT
I do not want us to fail. I want us to regain our dignity and supporters. That won't happen by B***** remaining. We disagree about what is in Rovers interests and what is Rovers failing. Rovers ability to win football matches may not have been what attracted a lot of us to the club. There are other factors, and Al Qadi burned those on 22nd February 2021. You care more about match day wins. I don't. I've left Guzzler when bored by personal insults, as you know perfectly well. Take a bow. It may be a good idea for you and like-minded fellows to establish a separate thread on the subject. I have a suggestion: S ociety (for) H ating A nthony's G uts. You could knock yourselves out moaning and complaining about our resident Scouser whilst sparing the rest of us your collective, sanctimonious bleating. Surely it should be SHJG. Love the image of a duck going baaah though
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2021 21:10:10 GMT
Love the image of a duck going baaah though. Some of my best friends are goats.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 19, 2021 21:35:18 GMT
how is it sanctimonious - I sense no sanctimony? Holier than thou, people in glass houses. no problem with wanting him gone because he’s a Sh1t manager, but all this “Has to go because of his previous behaviour” quite frankly boils my p1ss. The owner, who has paid millions to keep this club afloat seems happy enough and without him I doubt we’d have a club to support. Wael has made that abundantly clear but don’t forget who trebled the debt and before C19.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 19, 2021 21:43:20 GMT
Mines a pint or a smoke of what you are on lol Have you been to a game lately? Against Northampton and both Oxford games, there was some good, fast, along the ground football played. Given time and a couple of windows we could be in for a treat. Could being the operative here but i have my doubts and for good reason. No, I haven’t been to a game as I got the virus at one i went to so am staying away as i still feel we are getting ahead of ourselves with no sticking to distancing. Once you have had it, believe me when i say it is really quite scary and i have been vaccinated to boot
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Nov 20, 2021 7:32:46 GMT
s**t manager, previous behaviour, current behaviour, likelihood of future behaviour... I had my doubts about his managerial abilities but recent performances and results have made me re-consider. I believe he has paid his debts with regards to previous behaviour, and was treated more harshly than an unknown person who had committed the same offences. I don’t seek to excuse those matters, but he has done his bird. Present behaviour. Whatever happened to the basic tenet of English law, innocent until proven guilty? Future behaviour. Got a crystal ball, or Tarot cards then Meg? As I said: Sanctimonious, holier than thou twaddle. As sanctimonious as your innocent until proven guilty twaddle. What does that actually mean in this particular instance? As an example, let's take his latest assault, the one where he shoved his wife to the ground and kicked her in the head in front of witnesses. The fact is that she called it in and the police took her statement, which she later retracted. Why do you think that was? Note, I did not put alleged assault because him being who he is, an ex-jailbird who appears to have learnt nothing about his violent inner self during his incarceration, I prefer to believe her. Innocent until proven guilty in this instance simply means a lack of evidence. It does not mean he didn't do it and won't do it again.
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Post by towngas on Nov 20, 2021 8:55:59 GMT
Have you been to a game lately? Against Northampton and both Oxford games, there was some good, fast, along the ground football played. Given time and a couple of windows we could be in for a treat. Could being the operative here but i have my doubts and for good reason. No, I haven’t been to a game as I got the virus at one i went to so am staying away as i still feel we are getting ahead of ourselves with no sticking to distancing. Once you have had it, believe me when i say it is really quite scary and i have been vaccinated to boot Well of course it may not work out , but the improvement since the start of the season has been evident so steady progression is a possibility. I understand you are suffering generally with your health so are doing the right thing by staying away from crowds. You don’t want to take unnecessary risks. Hopefully you will soon feel safe to attend matches in the not too distant. If you do, you,any be pleasantly surprised. Keep safe. UTG
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Post by towngas on Nov 20, 2021 9:02:31 GMT
I had my doubts about his managerial abilities but recent performances and results have made me re-consider. I believe he has paid his debts with regards to previous behaviour, and was treated more harshly than an unknown person who had committed the same offences. I don’t seek to excuse those matters, but he has done his bird. Present behaviour. Whatever happened to the basic tenet of English law, innocent until proven guilty? Future behaviour. Got a crystal ball, or Tarot cards then Meg? As I said: Sanctimonious, holier than thou twaddle. As sanctimonious as your innocent until proven guilty twaddle. What does that actually mean in this particular instance? As an example, let's take his latest assault, the one where he shoved his wife to the ground and kicked her in the head in front of witnesses. The fact is that she called it in and the police took her statement, which she later retracted. Why do you think that was? Note, I did not put alleged assault because him being who he is, an ex-jailbird who appears to have learnt nothing about his violent inner self during his incarceration, I prefer to believe her. Innocent until proven guilty in this instance simply means a lack of evidence. It does not mean he didn't do it and won't do it again. I can imagine you taking part in some sort of march in protest at that kid being found NG in America. Don’t like a verdict? Riot. As for the alleged Domestic incident; I’m sure your evidence will be the clincher because you were obviously there, given a statement to the Police yet? Or perhaps you’ve had exclusive access to the prosecution file. Or you’re just regurgitating the crap written in that comic newspaper The Sun. As for the alleged incident with Herr Stendell, you must have found him guilty of that as well. KangarooCourt, anyone?
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Post by dido on Nov 20, 2021 9:15:58 GMT
I had my doubts about his managerial abilities but recent performances and results have made me re-consider. I believe he has paid his debts with regards to previous behaviour, and was treated more harshly than an unknown person who had committed the same offences. I don’t seek to excuse those matters, but he has done his bird. Present behaviour. Whatever happened to the basic tenet of English law, innocent until proven guilty? Future behaviour. Got a crystal ball, or Tarot cards then Meg? As I said: Sanctimonious, holier than thou twaddle. As sanctimonious as your innocent until proven guilty twaddle. What does that actually mean in this particular instance? As an example, let's take his latest assault, the one where he shoved his wife to the ground and kicked her in the head in front of witnesses. The fact is that she called it in and the police took her statement, which she later retracted. Why do you think that was? Note, I did not put alleged assault because him being who he is, an ex-jailbird who appears to have learnt nothing about his violent inner self during his incarceration, I prefer to believe her. Innocent until proven guilty in this instance simply means a lack of evidence. It does not mean he didn't do it and won't do it again. I was on a jury for a case at Crown Court that got well into day 2 before the wife admitted that she had made up the whole story against her husband. Just saying, as they say.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 20, 2021 9:21:51 GMT
Exactly Angas, you're not alone. I am happy for Gasheads, 100%. It was obviously a great atmosphere. But for me - nothing there any more. My son couldn't make kick off and was absolutely livid he missed it. He was bouncing around his flat. He is as passionate as ever. Someone mentioned our comeback in the pub and I just shrugged my shoulders. You just can't help how you feel. I hope I get 'it' back. Something has 'gone'. Thing is I don’t think it’s just B*****, it is the litany of other things and terrible decision after decision, the turnaround of mangers and the feeling of stagnation. After the second promotion we had really tangible hope of going on and doing more, being more and achieving more but we have ended up in the basement …again and many have just had enough of false hope. Hiring B***** and seeing him basically slag the whole club off, was the final straw for many of us. Personally, i just don’t feel I belong anymore, maybe its age or maybe the pandemic showed me there was more to do that to have my weekend mood being governed by rovers. Yup. that's pretty much how I feel. There are some green shoots of positivity - The Quarters and re-building relationships with the SC to name a couple. The appointment of B***** was the tipping point for me. My weekend isn't ruined when Rovers lose (like it used to). When they win, even in spectacular style as they did against Poxford - so what. I'm off to Sawbridgeworth Town vs. St Margaretsbury. I won't mind who wins and a local Club gets some cash. And then it's the big German game - Union / Hertha derby (5:30ko Sky). If Union lose I'll be a bit pissed off - but it won't ruin my weekend...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 9:39:30 GMT
Seems like some on here wear their absence from Rovers as a badge of pride.
Odd.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 9:42:52 GMT
Name one gas guzzler, absent from Rovers, you think isn't sad about it, who doesn't want B***** gone now, then for us all to be able to return to Rovers as soon as we can.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 20, 2021 9:47:08 GMT
Seems like some on here wear their absence from Rovers as a badge of pride. Odd. Missing something that has been a major (probably too major if I'm being honest) part of my life for over 30 years does not make me feel proud. Sad.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Nov 20, 2021 9:56:19 GMT
As sanctimonious as your innocent until proven guilty twaddle. What does that actually mean in this particular instance? As an example, let's take his latest assault, the one where he shoved his wife to the ground and kicked her in the head in front of witnesses. The fact is that she called it in and the police took her statement, which she later retracted. Why do you think that was? Note, I did not put alleged assault because him being who he is, an ex-jailbird who appears to have learnt nothing about his violent inner self during his incarceration, I prefer to believe her. Innocent until proven guilty in this instance simply means a lack of evidence. It does not mean he didn't do it and won't do it again. I was on a jury for a case at Crown Court that got well into day 2 before the wife admitted that she had made up the whole story against her husband. Just saying, as they say. A lot of women retract out of intimidation or guilt, i.e., they blame themselves and imagine it will all be alright again and they can fix him. They can't of course and the violence repeats itself. I'm not saying that's so in your case because there are always exceptions. B*****'s history of assault tells me he's not an exception. Innocent until proven guilty was introduced to protect the innocent but it naturally works both ways, hence the saying, get off lightly.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 9:56:39 GMT
Name one gas guzzler, absent from Rovers, you think isn't sad about it, who doesn't want B***** gone now, then for us all to be able to return to Rovers as soon as we can. I'm not getting involved in a protracted series of messages with you, in case you read something you don't like and disappear again. It seems that some think their self declared moral superiority by not attending Rovers, is a laudable trait. I disagree. That's all.
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