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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 2, 2021 10:20:34 GMT
Thread ref: Joey B***** is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers Oct 21, 2021 at 9:20am kingswood Polak likes thisQuoteEditlikePost OptionsPost by eppinggas on Oct 21, 2021 at 9:20am November 26th (adds Sheffield Crown Court) December 16th (adds Wimbledon Magistrates' Court) President Wael al-Qadi said the club had "in no way meant to belittle charges of domestic abuse" and "we stand firmly against any form of violence". He said any club employees who are convicted of such offences "will be dismissed immediately" and said he understood concerns that had been raised by supporters. And you are 100% certain Wael follows through are you? You are 100% certain courts produce a clear cut verdict? That’s not always the case is it. So a scenario where court doesn’t come to clear view either way “B***** Out” Brigade claim though its more than enough, Wael has to follow through, B***** fan boys admit some of the details emerged not good, but not strong enough reason for a sacking. And Wael does… nothing. Not a peep out of him. Perfectly possible. Where does that leave us? Exactly where we are now. Absolutely nothing may change from the court appearances. We can easily end up where we are today. Admittedly the defeat at home to Northampton was another shambles, but the win over Vale and feisty draw at Forest Green more than enough to keep him in the job. I am painting a perfectly possible scenario. There is something odd here at Rovers at the moment. Maybe like Garner knew it was over several games before his last game, maybe B***** knows too, and the silent board are in fact recruiting. Or maybe a take over is being lined up. Something is just not adding up. The longer el presidente stays schtum, the more i believe swissgas theory that B***** may have bought a decent sized stake in the club. It highly suspicious when none of the board can be bothered to make any statement and especially with the latest use of that word. The club is a pale facsimile of the one i started following in the late 60’s
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Post by trymer on Nov 2, 2021 10:45:38 GMT
And you are 100% certain Wael follows through are you? You are 100% certain courts produce a clear cut verdict? That’s not always the case is it. So a scenario where court doesn’t come to clear view either way “B***** Out” Brigade claim though its more than enough, Wael has to follow through, B***** fan boys admit some of the details emerged not good, but not strong enough reason for a sacking. And Wael does… nothing. Not a peep out of him. Perfectly possible. Where does that leave us? Exactly where we are now. Absolutely nothing may change from the court appearances. We can easily end up where we are today. Admittedly the defeat at home to Northampton was another shambles, but the win over Vale and feisty draw at Forest Green more than enough to keep him in the job. I am painting a perfectly possible scenario. There is something odd here at Rovers at the moment. Maybe like Garner knew it was over several games before his last game, maybe B***** knows too, and the silent board are in fact recruiting. Or maybe a take over is being lined up. Something is just not adding up. The club is a pale facsimile of the one i started following in the late 60’s I totally agree with you, but it isnt just Rovers that have changed lots of clubs have....life has changed a lot since then,mostly for the better but sometimes for some of us the change is for the worse (or is not to our taste)...I just feel happy to have seen better,happier times with Rovers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 11:09:10 GMT
getting promoted ASAP has to be priority number 1 right now? If that's the case then why did Wael do nothing when B***** was slumped against the advertising hoarding doing nothing to attempt to affect the outcome of games which could have kept us in L1 last season?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 11:23:38 GMT
Thread ref: Joey B***** is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers Oct 21, 2021 at 9:20am kingswood Polak likes thisQuoteEditlikePost OptionsPost by eppinggas on Oct 21, 2021 at 9:20am November 26th (adds Sheffield Crown Court) December 16th (adds Wimbledon Magistrates' Court) President Wael al-Qadi said the club had "in no way meant to belittle charges of domestic abuse" and "we stand firmly against any form of violence". He said any club employees who are convicted of such offences "will be dismissed immediately" and said he understood concerns that had been raised by supporters. And you are 100% certain Wael follows through are you? You are 100% certain courts produce a clear cut verdict? That’s not always the case is it. So a scenario where court doesn’t come to clear view either way “B***** Out” Brigade claim though its more than enough, Wael has to follow through, B***** fan boys admit some of the details emerged not good, but not strong enough reason for a sacking. And Wael does… nothing. Not a peep out of him. As said several times already, it's not nececerally the case that Not Guilty and Innocent are the same thing. So as you say, anything other than Guilty and instant termination of employment and this circus and division will just rumble on.
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Post by The Concept on Nov 2, 2021 12:20:25 GMT
JB could sight the fact of all the voluntary work he has carried out since last February, which should look favourably on him in the courts.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 2, 2021 15:39:48 GMT
The club is a pale facsimile of the one i started following in the late 60’s I totally agree with you, but it isnt just Rovers that have changed lots of clubs have....life has changed a lot since then,mostly for the better but sometimes for some of us the change is for the worse (or is not to our taste)...I just feel happy to have seen better,happier times with Rovers. Agreed. If i was born even 10 years ago then i would never choose Rovers
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 2, 2021 15:41:18 GMT
getting promoted ASAP has to be priority number 1 right now? If that's the case then why did Wael do nothing when B***** was slumped against the advertising hoarding doing nothing to attempt to affect the outcome of games which could have kept us in L1 last season? Spot on. It was/is totally unacceptable and still we have silence from the narcissist president
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Nov 2, 2021 16:09:59 GMT
And you are 100% certain Wael follows through are you? You are 100% certain courts produce a clear cut verdict? That’s not always the case is it. So a scenario where court doesn’t come to clear view either way “B***** Out” Brigade claim though its more than enough, Wael has to follow through, B***** fan boys admit some of the details emerged not good, but not strong enough reason for a sacking. And Wael does… nothing. Not a peep out of him. As said several times already, it's not nececerally the case that Not Guilty and Innocent are the same thing. So as you say, anything other than Guilty and instant termination of employment and this circus and division will just rumble on. It’s great when we agree Duke. I’m just taking up this thread header and saying to people - don’t get your hopes up. What we should regard as certain now, if B***** and his team limp to nothing better than a mid table finish this season, Wael is not going to sack him on that basis. Limping from here to mid table finish, Wael (sic) keep Joey in the job. Though you would like to think, as we have been lacking in forward scoring power since first match, we can use the coming window to get us at least flirting with the play offs regardless who is manager second half of season. But don’t get your hopes up, as courts and juries don’t always deliver clear outcomes to force either Wael or FA to act. This former footballer is smiling hi at you.
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Post by alftupper on Nov 2, 2021 20:21:45 GMT
Thread ref: Joey B***** is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers Oct 21, 2021 at 9:20am kingswood Polak likes thisQuoteEditlikePost OptionsPost by eppinggas on Oct 21, 2021 at 9:20am November 26th (adds Sheffield Crown Court) December 16th (adds Wimbledon Magistrates' Court) President Wael al-Qadi said the club had "in no way meant to belittle charges of domestic abuse" and "we stand firmly against any form of violence". He said any club employees who are convicted of such offences "will be dismissed immediately" and said he understood concerns that had been raised by supporters. And you are 100% certain Wael follows through are you? You are 100% certain courts produce a clear cut verdict? That’s not always the case is it. So a scenario where court doesn’t come to clear view either way “B***** Out” Brigade claim though its more than enough, Wael has to follow through, B***** fan boys admit some of the details emerged not good, but not strong enough reason for a sacking. And Wael does… nothing. Not a peep out of him. At least we’re free to criticise Wael. Any Newcastle fan, who criticises their new owners on the club’s fans forum, would be well advised to steer clear of the Saudi consulate, in my opinion.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Nov 2, 2021 20:59:36 GMT
And you are 100% certain Wael follows through are you? You are 100% certain courts produce a clear cut verdict? That’s not always the case is it. So a scenario where court doesn’t come to clear view either way “B***** Out” Brigade claim though its more than enough, Wael has to follow through, B***** fan boys admit some of the details emerged not good, but not strong enough reason for a sacking. And Wael does… nothing. Not a peep out of him. At least we’re free to criticise Wael. Any Newcastle fan, who criticises their new owners on the club’s fans forum, would be well advised to steer clear of the Saudi consulate, in my opinion. That’s consignment of 50,000 suitcases when Emery’s appointed then.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Nov 2, 2021 21:34:35 GMT
At least we’re free to criticise Wael. Any Newcastle fan, who criticises their new owners on the club’s fans forum, would be well advised to steer clear of the Saudi consulate, in my opinion. That’s consignment of 50,000 suitcases when Emery’s appointed then. <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> Shall I delete that post? Or does dark satire belong on football fan forums? What probably doesn’t belong on any football blog, is a sort of lazy misogyny. If you put Amanda Staveley into google, one football fan blog after another is giving her grief over her appearance. Unnecessary really, when you consider the amazing career she has forged for herself, and that she has Huntington’s, which is very sad. That they are hiring Emery is the funniest thing I have heard all week. Or should I say ‘oil week’. You would have thought, if they couldn’t get Gerrard, it had to be Howe?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 3, 2021 10:35:34 GMT
And you are 100% certain Wael follows through are you? You are 100% certain courts produce a clear cut verdict? That’s not always the case is it. So a scenario where court doesn’t come to clear view either way “B***** Out” Brigade claim though its more than enough, Wael has to follow through, B***** fan boys admit some of the details emerged not good, but not strong enough reason for a sacking. And Wael does… nothing. Not a peep out of him. At least we’re free to criticise Wael. Any Newcastle fan, who criticises their new owners on the club’s fans forum, would be well advised to steer clear of the Saudi consulate, in my opinion. Good advice! If things don't work out for the new Newcastle lot, it won't be long before heads begin to roll...
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Post by baselswh on Nov 3, 2021 12:19:03 GMT
And you are 100% certain Wael follows through are you? You are 100% certain courts produce a clear cut verdict? That’s not always the case is it. So a scenario where court doesn’t come to clear view either way “B***** Out” Brigade claim though its more than enough, Wael has to follow through, B***** fan boys admit some of the details emerged not good, but not strong enough reason for a sacking. And Wael does… nothing. Not a peep out of him. At least we’re free to criticise Wael. Any Newcastle fan, who criticises their new owners on the club’s fans forum, would be well advised to steer clear of the Saudi consulate, in my opinion. Not known for their sense of humour are they.🙂
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 3, 2021 13:03:28 GMT
I totally agree with you, but it isnt just Rovers that have changed lots of clubs have....life has changed a lot since then,mostly for the better but sometimes for some of us the change is for the worse (or is not to our taste)...I just feel happy to have seen better,happier times with Rovers. Agreed. If i was born even 10 years ago then i would never choose Rovers Come on KP, did you choose Rovers? I didn’t, I can never remember having to make a choice. I was just taken and it happened. Blimey, I never knew I had a choice! Doh! 😉 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 3, 2021 13:07:15 GMT
And you are 100% certain Wael follows through are you? You are 100% certain courts produce a clear cut verdict? That’s not always the case is it. So a scenario where court doesn’t come to clear view either way “B***** Out” Brigade claim though its more than enough, Wael has to follow through, B***** fan boys admit some of the details emerged not good, but not strong enough reason for a sacking. And Wael does… nothing. Not a peep out of him. At least we’re free to criticise Wael. Any Newcastle fan, who criticises their new owners on the club’s fans forum, would be well advised to steer clear of the Saudi consulate, in my opinion. And perhaps alf it won’t be just steering clear of any consulate. Those in numbered seats who start criticising in years to come may find obstacles put in place. They will not like critical banners or the like being publicised. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 3, 2021 13:12:34 GMT
Thread ref: Joey B***** is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers Oct 21, 2021 at 9:20am kingswood Polak likes thisQuoteEditlikePost OptionsPost by eppinggas on Oct 21, 2021 at 9:20am November 26th (adds Sheffield Crown Court) December 16th (adds Wimbledon Magistrates' Court) President Wael al-Qadi said the club had "in no way meant to belittle charges of domestic abuse" and "we stand firmly against any form of violence". He said any club employees who are convicted of such offences "will be dismissed immediately" and said he understood concerns that had been raised by supporters. And you are 100% certain Wael follows through are you? You are 100% certain courts produce a clear cut verdict? That’s not always the case is it. So a scenario where court doesn’t come to clear view either way “B***** Out” Brigade claim though its more than enough, Wael has to follow through, B***** fan boys admit some of the details emerged not good, but not strong enough reason for a sacking. And Wael does… nothing. Not a peep out of him. Perfectly possible. Where does that leave us? Exactly where we are now. Absolutely nothing may change from the court appearances. We can easily end up where we are today. Admittedly the defeat at home to Northampton was another shambles, but the win over Vale and feisty draw at Forest Green more than enough to keep him in the job. I am painting a perfectly possible scenario. There is something odd here at Rovers at the moment. Maybe like Garner knew it was over several games before his last game, maybe B***** knows too, and the silent board are in fact recruiting. Or maybe a take over is being lined up. Something is just not adding up. All possible superbus, you are correct. Btw, where were you on the Road to when you had your epiphany about JB? The Road to Easton, The Road to B***** Hill, The Road to Severn Bridge...? 😉 UTG!
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Post by trymer on Nov 3, 2021 13:35:48 GMT
Agreed. If i was born even 10 years ago then i would never choose Rovers Come on KP, did you choose Rovers? I didn’t, I can never remember having to make a choice. I was just taken and it happened. Blimey, I never knew I had a choice! Doh! 😉 UTG! I was taken to watch Rovers in 1967,I was only taken there because the car parks were big (and empty) so it was easier to park near the ground than it was at AG. Even then a lot of people used to watch Rovers one week and city the next in fact some people had season tickets for Rovers and city. For me just going to Rovers meant that I only supported Rovers although I had family and schoolmates who supported both and other schoolmates who just supported city. I have wondered if I had been taken to AG as well would I have supported both clubs ? (would have been a good time watching city in the 1st division). I think that you can take kids to Rovers but eventually they make up their own minds about what they want to do and looking at the faces at matches its obvious that the majority dont keep going to watch Rovers (or maybe it makes people look much older). Most of the blokes that I work with are more interested in football (in sport generally) than me but I am the only one who goes to watch a match (only Rovers),they watch TV which personally I never do and I never watch any other sport either. I do think that in the future there will be some kind of super league that will be mainly televised.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 3, 2021 14:40:37 GMT
Agreed. If i was born even 10 years ago then i would never choose Rovers Come on KP, did you choose Rovers? I didn’t, I can never remember having to make a choice. I was just taken and it happened. Blimey, I never knew I had a choice! Doh! 😉 UTG! I certainly did my friend, you see, part of growing up in a Polish family meant being around the others who could not go back “ home” after the war, long story but most had their legal status as polish born taken from them. The soviets saw polish heroes coming home as a focus of rebellion, anyway i am going off on a tangent but the majority of Polish and who followed and supported football, went for the city as it was as simple as they played in red and white, the colours of the Polish flag. I had an uncle who was rovers and we talked, i must have been around 4 years old and he gave me a rovers scarf and said you don’t have to follow city just because the others do. I then got taken to both teams home games for a long period but always found that I didn’t enjoy the city or the ground, the pasties and pies, a very important thing for a young boy, were much better at Easstville and the gallows humour was just brilliant PLUS no one spoke to me like i was only a kid, as they did at city. I made my choice early on and got into many scuffles at the Polish club as there were only 3 of us rovers v around 40-50 city. Dad used to laugh, mum was a different matter. So, yes, i had to make a choice. I would definitely not make that same choice now given hindsight and the constant let downs and lack of any sustainable progress. To be gas is to suffer. I have chosen not to go right now but am missing the friends and drinks but the club will not see one more penny from me while we have Wael and B*****. I may go if B***** is gone but, ideally, id like both gone and i have always been clear that i place the blame fully at Wael Al QADI’S door. He has ruined the club i once loved and fought over. It’s not the club i knew and is getting worse rather than better
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Nov 3, 2021 15:44:35 GMT
Come on KP, did you choose Rovers? I didn’t, I can never remember having to make a choice. I was just taken and it happened. Blimey, I never knew I had a choice! Doh! 😉 UTG! I certainly did my friend, you see, part of growing up in a Polish family meant being around the others who could not go back “ home” after the war, long story but most had their legal status as polish born taken from them. The soviets saw polish heroes coming home as a focus of rebellion, anyway i am going off on a tangent but the majority of Polish and who followed and supported football, went for the city as it was as simple as they played in red and white, the colours of the Polish flag. I had an uncle who was rovers and we talked, i must have been around 4 years old and he gave me a rovers scarf and said you don’t have to follow city just because the others do. I then got taken to both teams home games for a long period but always found that I didn’t enjoy the city or the ground, the pasties and pies, a very important thing for a young boy, were much better at Easstville and the gallows humour was just brilliant PLUS no one spoke to me like i was only a kid, as they did at city. I made my choice early on and got into many scuffles at the Polish club as there were only 3 of us rovers v around 40-50 city. Dad used to laugh, mum was a different matter. So, yes, i had to make a choice. I would definitely not make that same choice now given hindsight and the constant let downs and lack of any sustainable progress. To be gas is to suffer. I have chosen not to go right now but am missing the friends and drinks but the club will not see one more penny from me while we have Wael and B*****. I may go if B***** is gone but, ideally, id like both gone and i have always been clear that i place the blame fully at Wael Al QADI’S door. He has ruined the club i once loved and fought over. It’s not the club i knew and is getting worse rather than better Perfectly understandable the tough on B*****, tough on the causes of B***** feeling. Although managers can come and go often, like any employee, it’s been crazy for Wael to trash his share price with the fans like this.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Nov 3, 2021 15:57:00 GMT
And you are 100% certain Wael follows through are you? You are 100% certain courts produce a clear cut verdict? That’s not always the case is it. So a scenario where court doesn’t come to clear view either way “B***** Out” Brigade claim though its more than enough, Wael has to follow through, B***** fan boys admit some of the details emerged not good, but not strong enough reason for a sacking. And Wael does… nothing. Not a peep out of him. Perfectly possible. Where does that leave us? Exactly where we are now. Absolutely nothing may change from the court appearances. We can easily end up where we are today. Admittedly the defeat at home to Northampton was another shambles, but the win over Vale and feisty draw at Forest Green more than enough to keep him in the job. I am painting a perfectly possible scenario. There is something odd here at Rovers at the moment. Maybe like Garner knew it was over several games before his last game, maybe B***** knows too, and the silent board are in fact recruiting. Or maybe a take over is being lined up. Something is just not adding up. All possible superbus, you are correct. Btw, where were you on the Road to when you had your epiphany about JB? The Road to Easton, The Road to B***** Hill, The Road to Severn Bridge...? 😉 UTG! To be honest, B***** Fans have a good argument in give a manager time to fail, it does take time to ship out the problem recruit better, and stamp your style on the team. As Basel used to say, give B***** and team our backing for 12 games this season and then decide - before the 12 games were up he said it he’s now saying give B***** season and a half then decide. He shouldn’t be given anymore time in my opinion, because after a long time now we can’t see a credible winning formulae being practised by the manager. When we do get points it’s all a bit of a struggle. And why. I think Chris Sanigar summed it up. Chris Sanigar interviewed by Points West, said he backs B*****, but wishes he would put his arm around the players a bit more. Have we yet to hear Joey defend his players in adversity, or ever except blame for a mess of a match day himself? Where I think Sanigar is coming from that is extremely important, Calm confident and relaxed = peak performance on the field, happy people = creative minds, industrious bodies. Thug managers and fear situations actually sell the club short of what it can achieve. Employers of managers need to consider Calm confident and relaxed equates to peak performance, happy players maximises creativity and industry. That’s how it works. B***** is too psycho to be an effective manager. Nor does he seem open to learning from experience. Don’t take it from me, take it up with Sanigar if you want an argument about it. 😊
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