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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2024 23:14:39 GMT
[br You’re really testing my f**king patience I don’t believe in using the f**king race card , now just f**k off with your thick as mince commie mates Tosser Do you believe in a free market? Yes/No Oldie, why are you wittering on about a 'free market' ? What has that to do with the context of the discussion about the Welsh First Minister?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2024 23:12:42 GMT
Gething says he has asked his party to carry out a review into how donations are handled. And he has asked the senedd’s standards committee to look at how the rules operate. But he says it is wrong to change the rules retrospectively. He says he is grateful for the support he has had. Many people of colour know what it is like to be vilified, he says. I also want to recognise that, like me, so many people of colour have been traduced and vilified merely for raising concerns about how some of these debates have been handled. Our lived experience should matter and be respected. We still have a very long way to go. He says Labour has always offered pairs to other parties when MSs are too ill to vote. And he says the refusal of the Tories to offer pairs today, when two Labour MSs are ill, reflects badly on them. Updated at 17.13 BST 16.38 BST Takes a 200,000 backhander the plays the race card , typical commie The point being missed is that that the two 'ill' members can vote remotely/electronically. This is standard practice. Both of the 'ill' members had been sacked as Ministers. They were not 'ill' but they did not want to support him !
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2024 12:44:29 GMT
She's a career Civil Servant, married to Labour's Jack Straw.......and she comes across as being totally inept.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2024 11:42:57 GMT
Holy Crap Batman ! Today at the enquiry it's the turn of Alice Perkins, who was the PO Chairman. Where oh where did they get these people from? She's another one who claims she didn't know and wasn't told, even though e-mails prove her guilt. When faced with e-mails she had written she came out with the usual response of "I know what is written but that is not what I was thinking".
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2024 9:56:26 GMT
Well I'm really looking forward to the Labour Manifesto. How will they create this "British Energy Company" and how much will it cost? A government run industry. We all know how they end-up don't we. How will they pay for the industry they want to Nationalize? How will they pay for the increase in State school kids after charging VAT on Private Education? How will they pay for 6,500 new teachers? How will they pay for the new "Border Force", when we already have one? Will we see another flood of PFI on steroids? The country is still paying for the last lot!
I have no doubt they will claim that it is all 'costed'. Hey, I've just 'costed' buying a Rolls-Royce. I can't afford it, but I've 'costed' it! They will also claim that they can pay for everything by "growing the economy", without any indication that they are capable of doing so.
Both parties claim no increase in Income Tax or VAT. None of them mention that they will freeze thresholds, thereby increasing the tax income using the Fiscal Drag.
Liars, both parties.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2024 9:16:34 GMT
I see the claim that Labour would increase income tax by £2k per household has blown up in their faces. The Treasury have disowned the claim. No. The claim was not about Income Tax. It is the calculated amount when Labour policies are taken into consideration.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2024 9:14:47 GMT
Starmer, "my wife works for the NHS in a large hospital, so it's in my DNA"......................She's a Lawyer working for the NHS !
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2024 9:13:17 GMT
Watched the highlights, didn't take long. Rishi looked quite good against a wooden puppet who has no radical policies to promote. Two deeply dull people with nothing new to say. Farage, like him, or froth at the mouth loathe him - is absolute box office. If Farage was on the same stage he'd rip these two apart.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2024 9:09:20 GMT
It's a common theme.
"Germans have demanded that their government restricts migration to prevent further attacks after an Afghan knifeman killed a police officer and stabbed five others at a political rally. Sulaiman Ataee, 25, launched a frenzied attack in Mannheim city centre on Friday, stabbing well-known Islam critic Michael Stuerzenberger, police officer Rueven L, 29, and several bystanders in a horrific incident which was live streamed on YouTube. Residents in the city in the state of Baden-Wuerttemberg are outraged over the attack, with many demanding stricter rules on immigration. Julia, 27, said her opinion on migration had changed following the deadly stabbing rampage last week. 'I'm now a lot more aware of the dangers of Islamistic terror after what happened on Friday and it made me think that we might need to draw a line to restrict immigration and decide whether people actually need asylum or not. Julia, 27, said her opinion on migration had changed following the deadly stabbing rampage last week Residents in Mannheim, Baden-Wuerttemberg, are outraged over a frenzied attack by Afghan migrant Sulaiman Ataee (pictured), who killed a police officer and stabbed five others on Friday 'We can't take in the whole world, that just cannot work,' frustrated pensioner Rolf. Homeless woman Petra, 57, 'Migrants have a right to be here, but I don't think it's right that some, not all, get more than the Germans that are here. There are Germans on the streets, like us. I think everyone should be treated equally' 'Islamism is murderous' German minister says after police officer dies 'It makes me increasingly angry as well that our society is so open to migrants and takes everyone in, but then there's people who are radical and violent, so much so that a police officer gets killed. It is truly shocking.' Even the left-leaning Green Party, after years of urging Germany to take in more asylum seekers, is calling for tougher measures against Islamic extremists. Leader Ricarda Lang urged decisive action on the ARD talk show Miosga and acknowledged her party's previous reluctance to confront the issue head-on. She said: 'Islamism is the enemy of a free society. And it must be treated as such and must be combated, in terms of security policy and society as a whole. 'There can be no excuses, no justifications.' In a notable move, Lang also called for the closure of the Islamic Centre in Hamburg, a place she described as a hub for radical ideas. She added: 'I still can't understand why it is still open.' Frustrated pensioner Rolf said that he thinks that Germany and its government will be outraged over the death of Rouven L. for a week, but will return to normal after, with no changes to be made following the brutal attack. 'It is intolerable,' he said. Just last year the country saw an influx of 680,000 and 710,000 people, which brought the overall population in Germany to a new record of 84.7 million, according to its national office for statistics. 'We can't take in the whole world, that just cannot work,' Rolf said. The 70-year-old said he had noticed German public services taking a hit and attributed this to mass migration. 'I went to hospital to get help with a hernia, but I only got an appointment three months later. 'There's just too many people that come here, it just cannot work and we need to do something about it,' he added. Before his retirement, Rolf was a lorry driver, which earned him a small pension. But he said it doesn't reach very far, since most of it is spent on taxes. 'And then someone new comes here and they get more money than me after working all my life, and I can't even say anything about it without being branded right-wing,' he said. 'In ten years, Islam will have taken over Germany. I'm old, so I don't care anymore. If I was younger, maybe, but now I don't give a s***.' Islamism is a murderous ideology that has nothing in common with our democracy' German minister declares after police officer stabbed by Afghan knife attacker loses his fight for life Homeless woman Petra, 57, "Migrants have a right to be here, but I don't think it's right that some, not all, get more than the Germans that are here. 'There are Germans on the streets, like us. I think everyone should be treated equally.' She used to be €800 (£680) in debt, which spiralled into losing her flat and insurance. Petra is now homeless, and struggling to even afford medication like paracetamol in the pharmacy. 'You used to be able to get medications written up [onto your insurance], but now that's not the case. Everything's gotten really expensive. 'You start asking yourself whether open borders are worth this, Petra added. 'The country can't do it anymore. People have health issues and can't pay to treat them. it's about time the government does more for its people, for everyone.' Her boyfriend, 52-year-old Mario, was in an accident that left him unable to work and he also ended up on the streets of Mannheim. 'It's not fair,' Petra said. 'Everyone should be in it together. Everyone wants something to eat, to drink, a flat with affordable rent. 'Everything went downhill since Kohl and Merkel [were in power].' Personally impacted by the attack on Friday is 25-year-old Anja (pictured), whose father and brother are both part of the local police force. 'This could have been my brother and I now have to live with the fear that it could happen again,' Mario believes the situation worsened after former German Chancellor Angela Merkel started leading the country in 2005. 'Everything changed. Refugees now get more than us.' Personally impacted by the attack on Friday is 25-year-old Anja, whose father and brother are both part of the local police force. 'This could have been my brother and I now have to live with the fear that it could happen again,' She said she knows many migrants who assimilated well, but there's always some people who haven't. 'I think everyone should treat each other with respect and should be open-minded, but migrants should also respect the rights and responsibilities that come with living in a new country, especially in regards to women's rights,' Anja added. Romanian Dana, 45, recently moved to Mannheim for a career change. She said: 'Those who immigrate should abide by the rules of that country and don't expect everyone to give them everything on a silver platter.' This sentiment was echoed by 65-year-old local Christa, who said: 'I'm generally open to immigration, but I think too many people come here without having an expectation of the culture here, so the cohabitation is sometimes difficult. 'I think migrants also need to make an effort to integrate and I don't see that with many of them. 'They come here and think they can live the same as where they came from but that's just not the case. Everyone needs to adapt.' She explained there's a flaw in the system, which the stabbing attack in Mannheim last week highlighted yet again. Christa said: 'I don't think it's tenable anymore that we can't deport someone like that to Afghanistan. 'The population's right to integrity should be valued more highly than that of the criminal, even if he has found refuge here. 'If you are guilty of something and abuse the right to hospitality like that, then I would deal with you more harshly.' The Mannheim native also criticised that social services have not kept up with the new demands after the migration boom. Christa said: 'We pay and pay for health care and social stuff but with the other strains, like the economy not running so well anymore, we can't keep taking on more and more debt.' German Islam critic stabbed in the face at rally that was livestreamed on YouTube brands knifing 'an absolute nightmare' - as he warns frenzied assault was an 'attack against our free democratic state' 'Something needs to give and eventually our whole system will collapse like this. Eventually it will all be gone.' Married couple Angela and Achim, both 58, said while they were in favour of open borders, they believe more care should be taken to find out whether migrants hold extremist views. 'One needs to find out whether they have any beliefs or sentiments that don't belong here. And if you came here illegally and don't even work, there need to be consequences,' Angela said. 'There's so many migrants who integrated well here, you can't lump them all together, but not everyone is like that. 'At one point we might have to say stop and help integrate the people that are already here before everything again.' Her husband Achim added: 'The government needs to do something and set apart some money for this. We already have a cafe specifically to help people integrate into German society, but there's so many migrants now, it's not enough for all of them.' 'I'm generally in favour of immigration, but I think the political will to steer this has gotten lost,' said 53-year-old Nikolaj 'There's no alternative politically right now. There is a political vacuum. It's a tense situation and you feel like you need to prepare yourself for a more chaotic outcome with the increasing polarisation between the left and the right.' One such example were two protests on Sunday, where involved left- and right-wing protesters on either side who shouted over each other. 'If you expressed on Sunday that you had a problem with the young man attacking and killing people, you were automatically branded a Nazi and anti-Islam.' It was revealed that attacker Ataee had lived in the country illegally for years before being given a residence permit after having children with his German wife. He was reportedly unemployed. 'Of course that is not right. It's an error in the system that something like that is possible for him to live here relying on support from the state without working,' Nikolaj said. 'The debate is always led by feelings. As soon as you say he is illegal and she should or can be deported, you're automatically right-wing. 'I don't find that helpful nor honest. It is a lazy excuse. '[Sulaimain Ataee] will live off the taxpayer's dime for the rest of his life. He won't be deported. After the trial he will probably stay in prison until he's 60 and we have to pay for it. It's not right.' Immigrant Tatjana, 70, who moved to Germany 30 years ago from Asia, said: 'If someone is here and kills a police officer, they don't get to stay. 'Germany has gotten really bad in recent years because we took in too many refugees who turned out to be criminals. 'The police need to do more checks. Without a new law, sooner rather than later more will come.' She believes it depends how people behave, no matter where they are from, to determine whether they should be allowed to stay in Germany. Mehmet Cantekin, 67, 'that the country is slowly turning into Turkey, where he lived ten years ago. 'I wasn't allowed to eat or drink during Ramadan despite not being Muslim and soon it will be the same here. Europe is making mistakes, one has to draw a line.' A 75-year-old man, who preferred to not be named, said: 'Too many people came here and the attack is the result. 'We have to do everything we can so this doesn't continue. We need to close the borders and send them back.' Mannheim resident Reinold, 58, said he was deeply shocked by last week's attack in his city: 'It was tragic what happened. Extremists are among us, and that needs to be different.' But he doesn't believe in closing the borders. 'I think we should generally be an open country, but the criteria for entry should be stricter and should be handled better,' he said. Fellow retiree Peter, 70, disagreed. He said: 'Uncontrolled migration is hurting Europe and massively so. 'I lived abroad for 20 years and when I came back I was shocked over what happened to Germany. 'It's important that there's more state security, as the attack last week was not an isolated case. 'Women and children are at the mercy of the other customs in Afghanistan, Syria, and elsewhere - women don't count there. They can just be killed and no one cares.' He highlighted how important it was for people to be integrated in the country they move to so there's not a split society. 'There are two things that are needed for integration. The will to be integrated and someone who is willing to integrate these people. 'It needs to come from both sides and people need to be open for this. I don't think this is the case here,' he said. 'It's a silence, an indifference, which is shocking. Germany has been bled dry, we don't have anything left to give. 'Look at the health services. It's really difficult for me to get an appointment at the eye doctor for example, even though my left eye is going blind. Our healthcare system is one of the best, but we can't just always take from it. 'In all areas we have deficiencies and crises, because there's too many people coming here.' Leo, a 21-year-old student in Mannheim, said: 'Some people are already worried. My parents told me they want me to stay away from massive crowds' The pensioner added: 'Look at the Ukrainians. They are parasites here and in the whole EU. We will have to pay for this. 'I would blow up the parliament in Berlin before I would send my own sons to fight in Ukraine.' The attack also increased fears for the upcoming euros in Germany, with Police Commissioner Barbara Slowik saying: 'In my six years in office, the situation has never been as acute as it is now - and the European Championships haven't even started yet.' While Stephan Katte, the police leader in charge of the championships, emphasised extensive security measures are in place for the euros, people are still afraid. Leo, a 21-year-old student in Mannheim, said: 'Some people are already worried. My parents told me they want me to stay away from massive crowds. 'They said I can still watch the game and have a drink with friends, but it doesn't need to be with hundreds of other people.'"
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2024 8:04:55 GMT
Sir Kier did'nt come across very well I'm hearing. No he didn't. Wouldn't provide an answer when asked if Labour will start to tax the State Pension. He just tried to deflect. To stop the boats he reckons we need to "smash the gangs" bringing people over. The politicians do seem to have a problem differentiating between Asylum Seekers and illegal immigrants. He reckons by setting up 'processing centres somewhere' (he didn't say) then asylum seekers can apply there and this will create a 'safe passage'. He didn't say what happens when someone gets refused so they then use the smuggling gangs to get across. Labour do not have a coherent plan regarding immigration. Their plan has more holes than a tramps vest. His new "British Energy Company" is a bit of a joke. He reckons renewable energy is cheap. Has he ever looked at the figures? As for Sunak, you can't believe a word the Tories say. I keep saying it, but same old parties, same old policies, same old lies, same old incompetence, same old results.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2024 7:53:56 GMT
Rishi answers with a "yes",he would use private health if a loved one was seriously ill. Sir Kier tells the nation he would'nt use private health for a loved one even if they were seriously ill. I don't believe Sir Kier. Yeah, Starmer was just virtue signaling with that. He's loaded so if he's still using the NHS for him and his family he's a fool. Not only that but if he went Private it would reduce the work for the NHS!
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2024 6:20:35 GMT
What really grips my s**t is that both of them are trying to find ways to take more of our money. The government already take too much. Why can't they spend more time on cutting government waste and spending our money more wisely? They both talk bollux. We know it, and they know it. Why oh why can't they be honest? Sadly That is the state of our economy. We are not generating enough income for the services we have let alone those that are being demanded. I disagree. The amount of waste at both national and local level is where they should be looking. The money is there.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 4, 2024 21:55:46 GMT
What really grips my s**t is that both of them are trying to find ways to take more of our money. The government already take too much. Why can't they spend more time on cutting government waste and spending our money more wisely? They both talk bollux. We know it, and they know it. Why oh why can't they be honest?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 4, 2024 21:18:39 GMT
So, we now know that Labour will tax the State Pension. Starmer avoided answering the question and didn't deny it. Both stated they will not raise income tax or vat. What they both didn't say is that they will freeze threash holds, which is basically raising taxes.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 4, 2024 14:20:45 GMT
It's become a bit of a false election now. We know that Labour will win. The only thing we don't know is just what majority they will get. The real battle is for second place. Nobody expects Reform to get any/many seats because of the First Past The Post system, however their vote share may well be the footing they need to progress. They are not really looking at this election, but the next one. The real question is just how low will the Tories go.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 4, 2024 14:15:55 GMT
Judging by your response I am assuming you don't know and Reform have not articulated any number. This is one view "Richard Stebles, head of business intelligence at carehome.co.uk, the UK’s leading care home reviews site, said: “This drop in the number of care homes reflects the tough challenges that the sector faced in 2022. “Following the daunting adversity of the pandemic across 2020 and 2021, care homes are now assailed with sky high costs in 2022: energy bills have soared and recruitment in the post-Brexit environment remains tricky, leading to a reliance on more costly agency staff. The financial pressures have sadly caused many providers to collapse.” Let's cut the available Labour pool then, that makes sens For example "The UK’s care sector is facing a workforce crisis. Low pay, poor working conditions and job insecurity has resulted in more than 100,000 unfilled roles" And "The problems facing social care are deep-rooted. Some stem from the decade of austerity that began in 2010, which cut council budgets to the bone and left them unable to fully respond to rising demands for support." And "There were also warnings of staff shortages ahead of Brexit, when the care sector relied on EU nationals. “Shutting off the ‘relief valve’ of EU migration,” the Nuffield Trust said, “put additional pressure” on a system that didn’t have an effective way to train and keep British care workers." Then "The industry has yet to recover. In 2022-23 alone, about 130,000 people left care work." So the new Leader of Reform, interviewed on R4 this morning, said the problem was immigration and that whole swathes of areas, like Oldham, there are populations that don't speak English. "How do you know" he was asked "Because I heard them talking" he replied. "But they could be bilingual" was the response. He then went into his familiar rant about 'Brits feel uncomfortable when they hear people speaking another language" Do your children speak German he was asked (his wife is German I believe) "I am not answering that" Of course you won't.🤡 No politician should have to answer questions about their family/children. Why do you label him a clown for not answering a stupid question?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 4, 2024 13:17:41 GMT
It probably won't be black & white Oldie. Nobody expects a system where someone is waiting to come in but they can't until Bob & Martha retire to Spain. "Farage himself has said that his policies may well cause Labour shortages. He then claimed this will force employers to recruit and pay more for local people. Who is going to pay for that?" - Employers. Is there a problem with employers training people and paying them more money? The cheap immigrants are driving down the wages. Do you think there is enough elasticity in care providers margins for that? There is certainly not the funding in local authority budgets meet demand now let alone if we start driving up the cost base. I always find it amazing how statements like this Farage always fall at the first hurdle under challenge Who are the Care Providers? In many cases it's private companies, who make huge profits. Germany, France, Holland and Belgium all fact the exact same problem, and those are just the ones that I know of. Farage is not "falling at the first hurdle when challenged". We all know that the NHS and Social Care need complete reform. As long as we try to stick a plaster over the gaping wound then nothing will change. The whole way it works plus the funding, needs to be addressed, but it never will because nobody in Labour or the Tory parties have the bottle to address it. We have what, 4 million 'inactive' people in the UK. Why should we import cheap labour and then pay to keep people at home doing nothing?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 4, 2024 11:01:27 GMT
Reform are saying that they would introduce a one in, one out migration policy. This means that approx. 600,000 immigrants will be allowed in every year. Farage doesn't want to stop immigration. Stop believing the nonsense from the MSM and actually listen to what Reform say. Even if they could administer that, in practical terms,(which they cannot) how would that work? Care company applies for immigrant visa to fill a vacancy. Government says no, you have to join a queue until a slot is available. In the meantime Mrs Hughes, who is housebound, becomes very unwell because there nobody to assist her. Farage himself has said that his policies may well cause Labour shortages. He then claimed this will force employers to recruit and pay more for local people. Who is going to pay for that? It probably won't be black & white Oldie. Nobody expects a system where someone is waiting to come in but they can't until Bob & Martha retire to Spain. "Farage himself has said that his policies may well cause Labour shortages. He then claimed this will force employers to recruit and pay more for local people. Who is going to pay for that?" - Employers. Is there a problem with employers training people and paying them more money? The cheap immigrants are driving down the wages.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 4, 2024 10:43:47 GMT
If it's a NATO action then yes, we would be part of it. But it will be a NATO action if any member State is attacked Many options out there that could happen. For example, what if Russia suddenly get a major breakthrough and start advancing across Ukraine. At this point Ukraine may look like it will fall. This may cause Poland to intervene. Poland could declare that their actions are independent and outside of the NATO remit, meaning that NATO does not have to invoke Article 5 when Poland commits to war. Obviously Poland would prefer the whole of NATO to intervene but what if politics gets in the way to stop that?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 4, 2024 10:39:12 GMT
L/d now saying they’d pay carers £2 above the min wage , whats that , £13.50 ph ? Doesnt sound much to me ,can’t see that rate encouraging many to go into the care sector But anything I guess is better than nothing Which brings us nicely back to Reform and immigration policies. Last year we granted 83,000 visas to immigrants to work in the care sector. Now Farage and Reform want to stop that. What happens to the elderly and vulnerable the ? Reform are saying that they would introduce a one in, one out migration policy. This means that approx. 600,000 immigrants will be allowed in every year. Farage doesn't want to stop immigration. Stop believing the nonsense from the MSM and actually listen to what Reform say.
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