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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2021 14:08:39 GMT
I remember it well and that was why John decided that he didn't want to host the Valentine's Dinner. If you are counting every member in the PC raffle now known as The Bristol Rovers Presidents 1883 Club as a member then I won't disagree with your figure but to say the PC has more members without anything to offer than it did when it was a great club to be a member of sounds very odd. Where can I find details of the Presidents Club itself as the website is currently under construction and has been for some time. Presidents Club Raffle
Presidents Club Sorry above my pay grade so cant help there. Obviously many no longer attend because of health/travel issues but trying telling ex directors Vernon Stokes or Bob Andrews they are not members of the PC As Vice Presidents making Vernon and Bob honorary members is the right thing to do.
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Post by johnmalyckyj on Aug 23, 2021 22:42:32 GMT
I'd like to join please. Can we be called either the Supporters Clique or Presidents Clique? Should we favour the latter can we have our first Valentines ball at McDonalds please? Kind Regards John Malyckyj The PC, ‘Valentines Ball’ was the highlight of the year for many John, great fun with the usually 240+ in attendance.A cheque for around £8k profit was forwarded to the fc a few days later(I am sure you know this but I am curious to know if you attended any. But all that ended when the fc decided to take the event in house.It was decided to support this new arrangement but unfortunately I saw two fights that first night and will not expose my wife to that sort of behaviour, so that was the end of that Let’s hope any in house fund raising activities don’t end up the same way. You have not commented on PCs member ship quoted on here a day or so ago(I apologise if I have missed it) does it not suit your agenda? No I didn't attend a PC Valentines Ball, I wasn't a member. After the hostility shown towards the 50/50 draw I wouldn't have gone had I been invited. I did attend events organised by Ian Holtby and always enjoyed those events. I haven't commented on the claimed membership because I've only just logged on. I am pleased that you have at long last answered a long asked question. Why it wasn't answered before is beyond me. It now appears that the PC has morphed from being a matchday members club to a club that runs a draw, is that correct? If that is the case I am not sure why Knowall has consistently dodged that question and explained it. How much is it to join? Regards John Malyckyj
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Post by irenestoyboy on Aug 24, 2021 7:47:37 GMT
On Gaschat last week someone called wertongas was answering similar questions to the ones being asked here and he stated the same that there was around 200 members which I think he took from the 200 club or whatever the raffle scheme is that the PC run.
I replied with the following which has so far gone unanswered. Perhaps GT could ask John Harding and get some further insight. Happy to be corrected on anything below if it is incorrect.
So let’s break this down even further.
How many members are paid up to use the PC club to their full membership?
For example, how many are enrolled to use the bar?
Because many people enter the 50/50, it doesn’t mean that they are paid up members of the SC or even support what the SC is doing? The prize draw for memberships of the FC is nothing more than a monthly raffle with half the profit going to the club (or into the PC bank account by the look of it with £70k in there).
Also, can you tell us how much the PC has donated to the club annually since the ALQ ownership came in?
Can you also tell us what activities outside of the club, such as the academy or gas girls or other the PC has financially supported under the ALQ ownership?
That will give an idea into the actual activity of the PC and whether it’s a worthy or relevant cause or just a collection bucket which the club is not benefitting from.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Aug 24, 2021 7:54:53 GMT
The reference to the 200 club , all paid up members I'm lost now. Are we saying that the Presidents' Club has 200 members? I seem to recall them being in a single executive box, those boxes have a capacity of 16. I'm led to believe that the box(es) the PC have are a seperate thing and nothing to do with the PC itself according to Wertongas on gaschat.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Aug 24, 2021 8:18:05 GMT
Not so Pop,you may recall the board deciding to take over the Centenary Suite,I was present when the full board tried to sell the idea to the PC. There must have been over 130 of us in the club house bar . There was a greatly disappoint and even anger at this decision. I do understand that that the board was tasked with maximising the return from the facilities they control but the suggestion that the membership should be fragmented around the ground effectively meant the PC as we knew it ceased to exist.You may not be aware that, as the Dunford lounge capacity is limited,we have had to turn away potential new members.So we have no capacity to grow and even less now that the lounge has been closed .We are ,in fact, hamstrung by the lack of facilities at the Mem ( together with many other supporters) Looking forward I do believe there would be a demand for a club that offered that little bit extra and, for the class warriors amongst you , it could be renamed. Trying to give the impression of the membership of the PC as you have is just wrong .The paid up membership is just under 200 I have been told ,everything less is just semantics What is the raison d'etre of the PC now GT and what do you require to make it function? If it is an exclusive club (personally I dont mind a bit of VIP extra at events) where you would like to offer something over and above the matchday experience as a package that you could buy via membership then you need the club to wholesale something to you so you can make the profit and then invest that back into the club somewhere/somehow. If the club cant offer you a facility, because they sell it out themselves and can spend that themselves without waiting for a cheque from the PC then I can well understand them being unwilling to now let you have a part of the ground which profits can be maximised internally. Thats just good commercial sense IMO. Surely you cant expect the club to continually give you facilities for free? I know that there has been lots of generocity and goodwill financially in the past, but if a particular box, bar or room can be utilised to make more money than what benefits it gets from the current incumbants draw from it then surely even the those at the top table can understand the logic in the club making that change. Especially when certain supporters clubs are calling into question the financial competence of the ones that run the football club? That means the PC club would have to come up with other ideas to make it exclusive so the paying punter is getting something extra or value for money somewhere. For example a few years ago when the family and southwest stands were going to be put up, there could have been an ideal opportunity to do something with those. I know we have had our differences GT and please dont think I am ganging up on you again, I am genuinely trying to understand the position of the PC, as is John Malyckj and a couple of others.
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Post by gastower on Aug 24, 2021 10:01:16 GMT
The PC, ‘Valentines Ball’ was the highlight of the year for many John, great fun with the usually 240+ in attendance.A cheque for around £8k profit was forwarded to the fc a few days later(I am sure you know this but I am curious to know if you attended any. But all that ended when the fc decided to take the event in house.It was decided to support this new arrangement but unfortunately I saw two fights that first night and will not expose my wife to that sort of behaviour, so that was the end of that Let’s hope any in house fund raising activities don’t end up the same way. You have not commented on PCs member ship quoted on here a day or so ago(I apologise if I have missed it) does it not suit your agenda? No I didn't attend a PC Valentines Ball, I wasn't a member. After the hostility shown towards the 50/50 draw I wouldn't have gone had I been invited. I did attend events organised by Ian Holtby and always enjoyed those events. I haven't commented on the claimed membership because I've only just logged on. I am pleased that you have at long last answered a long asked question. Why it wasn't answered before is beyond me. It now appears that the PC has morphed from being a matchday members club to a club that runs a draw, is that correct? If that is the case I am not sure why Knowall has consistently dodged that question and explained it. How much is it to join? Regards John Malyckyj You didnt have to be a PC member John to attend Valentines Ball but it was a hot ticket and always sold out within a few days so there was no need to advertise the event. The ability of the PC to attract new members is compromised by the chronic lack of facilities( even more so now that the Dunford lounge has been closed).Whats the point of having a recruitment drive if you subsequently have to decline applications due to the capacity of the lounge ?I did understand why the previous board wanted to take over the east stand facility but they were advised on the night of the meeting the damage it would do to the PC and it did exactly that .Your observation about a club that runs a draw is not correct although it could become one in the very near future.The lottery/membership fee is £5/ month by standing order or lump sum £60 in advance ,draw held once a month.I believe the membership is below 200 but I am not sure of the exact number. Its a shame you have spent so much energy attacking the PC and possible this has been motivated by some historic bad experiences which have coloured your opinion, not all PC members are rotters John.The PC can be rightly proud of its contribution over decades , to the well being of the FC Sadly the PC is under threat as is the SC. Screen Soccer,Keith Brookman, matchday volunteers all gone and possible Martin and the helpline will be next.In other words the support groups are being removed one by one . Wael has indicated he requires no external investment so perhaps he feels he no longer help from the support groups.He fails to recognise however they are an important part our fabric and history All very sad , the club is a mess on and off the pitch
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 10:13:59 GMT
No I didn't attend a PC Valentines Ball, I wasn't a member. After the hostility shown towards the 50/50 draw I wouldn't have gone had I been invited. I did attend events organised by Ian Holtby and always enjoyed those events. I haven't commented on the claimed membership because I've only just logged on. I am pleased that you have at long last answered a long asked question. Why it wasn't answered before is beyond me. It now appears that the PC has morphed from being a matchday members club to a club that runs a draw, is that correct? If that is the case I am not sure why Knowall has consistently dodged that question and explained it. How much is it to join? Regards John Malyckyj You didnt have to be a PC member John to attend Valentines Ball but it was a hot ticket and always sold out within a few days so there was no need to advertise the event. The ability of the PC to attract new members is compromised by the chronic lack of facilities( even more so now that the Dunford lounge has been closed).Whats the point of having a recruitment drive if you subsequently have to decline applications due to the capacity of the lounge ?I did understand why the previous board wanted to take over the east stand facility but they were advised on the night of the meeting the damage it would do to the PC and it did exactly that .Your observation about a club that runs a draw is not correct although it could become one in the very near future.The lottery/membership fee is £5/ month by standing order or lump sum £60 in advance ,draw held once a month.I believe the membership is below 200 but I am not sure of the exact number. Its a shame you have spent so much energy attacking the PC and possible this has been motivated by some historic bad experiences which have coloured your opinion, not all PC members are rotters John.The PC can be rightly proud of its contribution over decades , to the well being of the FC Sadly the PC is under threat as is the SC. Screen Soccer,Keith Brookman, matchday volunteers all gone and possible Martin and the helpline will be next.In other words the support groups are being removed one by one . Wael has indicated he requires no external investment so perhaps he feels he no longer help from the support groups.He fails to recognise however they are an important part our fabric and history All very sad , the club is a mess on and off the pitch Blackpool FC was the reason the board wanted the commercial department to maximise the income from its only large hospitality asset. GD saw the Tangerine Club full with supporters having meals before the game and asked questions about income etc. He realised that we were under selling one of our few assets and at first asked the PC to have a pre match meal instead of a half time finger buffet. This is when some members left and took on one of the hospitality boxes, including me, and others joined the new BRFC 1883 Club ran by the football club in the Centenary Suite. I actually agreed with the PC that I wouldn't want a meal before every game hence my move to the boxes but rather than working with the board to find an alternative outcome the toys went out the pram with GD in similar fashion to how they have done now with Wael.
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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 24, 2021 10:38:58 GMT
No I didn't attend a PC Valentines Ball, I wasn't a member. After the hostility shown towards the 50/50 draw I wouldn't have gone had I been invited. I did attend events organised by Ian Holtby and always enjoyed those events. I haven't commented on the claimed membership because I've only just logged on. I am pleased that you have at long last answered a long asked question. Why it wasn't answered before is beyond me. It now appears that the PC has morphed from being a matchday members club to a club that runs a draw, is that correct? If that is the case I am not sure why Knowall has consistently dodged that question and explained it. How much is it to join? Regards John Malyckyj You didnt have to be a PC member John to attend Valentines Ball but it was a hot ticket and always sold out within a few days so there was no need to advertise the event. The ability of the PC to attract new members is compromised by the chronic lack of facilities( even more so now that the Dunford lounge has been closed).Whats the point of having a recruitment drive if you subsequently have to decline applications due to the capacity of the lounge ?I did understand why the previous board wanted to take over the east stand facility but they were advised on the night of the meeting the damage it would do to the PC and it did exactly that .Your observation about a club that runs a draw is not correct although it could become one in the very near future.The lottery/membership fee is £5/ month by standing order or lump sum £60 in advance ,draw held once a month.I believe the membership is below 200 but I am not sure of the exact number. Its a shame you have spent so much energy attacking the PC and possible this has been motivated by some historic bad experiences which have coloured your opinion, not all PC members are rotters John.The PC can be rightly proud of its contribution over decades , to the well being of the FC Sadly the PC is under threat as is the SC. Screen Soccer,Keith Brookman, matchday volunteers all gone and possible Martin and the helpline will be next.In other words the support groups are being removed one by one . Wael has indicated he requires no external investment so perhaps he feels he no longer help from the support groups.He fails to recognise however they are an important part our fabric and history All very sad , the club is a mess on and off the pitch it's good to have your contributions on here gt - we're not all going to agree, or be 100% right in all of our assertions, but this marks a very welcome change in tone and content IMO!
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Post by johnmalyckyj on Aug 24, 2021 13:51:09 GMT
No I didn't attend a PC Valentines Ball, I wasn't a member. After the hostility shown towards the 50/50 draw I wouldn't have gone had I been invited. I did attend events organised by Ian Holtby and always enjoyed those events. I haven't commented on the claimed membership because I've only just logged on. I am pleased that you have at long last answered a long asked question. Why it wasn't answered before is beyond me. It now appears that the PC has morphed from being a matchday members club to a club that runs a draw, is that correct? If that is the case I am not sure why Knowall has consistently dodged that question and explained it. How much is it to join? Regards John Malyckyj You didnt have to be a PC member John to attend Valentines Ball but it was a hot ticket and always sold out within a few days so there was no need to advertise the event. The ability of the PC to attract new members is compromised by the chronic lack of facilities( even more so now that the Dunford lounge has been closed).Whats the point of having a recruitment drive if you subsequently have to decline applications due to the capacity of the lounge ?I did understand why the previous board wanted to take over the east stand facility but they were advised on the night of the meeting the damage it would do to the PC and it did exactly that .Your observation about a club that runs a draw is not correct although it could become one in the very near future.The lottery/membership fee is £5/ month by standing order or lump sum £60 in advance ,draw held once a month.I believe the membership is below 200 but I am not sure of the exact number. Its a shame you have spent so much energy attacking the PC and possible this has been motivated by some historic bad experiences which have coloured your opinion, not all PC members are rotters John.The PC can be rightly proud of its contribution over decades , to the well being of the FC Sadly the PC is under threat as is the SC. Screen Soccer,Keith Brookman, matchday volunteers all gone and possible Martin and the helpline will be next.In other words the support groups are being removed one by one . Wael has indicated he requires no external investment so perhaps he feels he no longer help from the support groups.He fails to recognise however they are an important part our fabric and history All very sad , the club is a mess on and off the pitch Thanks for your fulsome reply. At last we are getting somewhere. My "hostility" is based on my historic experience but also more recently the efforts of a couple of your leading members to seemingly destabilise the football club we are all supposed to support. At least you have attempted to answer my questions which I welcome, in contrast to Knowall, who as soon as he is put under pressure disappears. I found the behaviour of one of your leading members at the last public AGM of shareholders disgraceful and documented my thoughts at the time. We've had the failed coup, so it doesn't look very good for the PC when they align themselves to the SC. A complete revamp of all supporters groups is now required with everyone pulling in the same direction. This would recognise the reality of the situation everyone now faces with current ownership models. I have acknowledged the contribution that the PC has made to the fabric of the football club, but there is no going back now and the quicker some of your colleagues realise it the better. What once appealed to those with spare cash to burn maybe won't now, time has moved on. It's a pleasure to debate constructively with you. Kind regards John Malyckyj
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 13:58:55 GMT
Thanks for your fulsome reply. At last we are getting somewhere. My "hostility" is based on my historic experience but also more recently the efforts of a couple of your leading members to seemingly destabilise the football club we are all supposed to support. At least you have attempted to answer my questions which I welcome, in contrast to Knowall, who as soon as he is put under pressure disappears. I found the behaviour of one of your leading members at the last public AGM of shareholders disgraceful and documented my thoughts at the time. We've had the failed coup, so it doesn't look very good for the PC when they align themselves to the SC. A complete revamp of all supporters groups is now required with everyone pulling in the same direction. This would recognise the reality of the situation everyone now faces with current ownership models. I have acknowledged the contribution that the PC has made to the fabric of the football club, but there is no going back now and the quicker some of your colleagues realise it the better. What once appealed to those with spare cash to burn maybe won't now, time has moved on. It's a pleasure to debate constructively with you. Kind regards John Malyckyj Think you have nailed it there John.
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Post by The Concept on Aug 24, 2021 16:05:49 GMT
Not so Pop,you may recall the board deciding to take over the Centenary Suite,I was present when the full board tried to sell the idea to the PC. There must have been over 130 of us in the club house bar . There was a greatly disappoint and even anger at this decision. I do understand that that the board was tasked with maximising the return from the facilities they control but the suggestion that the membership should be fragmented around the ground effectively meant the PC as we knew it ceased to exist.You may not be aware that, as the Dunford lounge capacity is limited,we have had to turn away potential new members.So we have no capacity to grow and even less now that the lounge has been closed.We are ,in fact, hamstrung by the lack of facilities at the Mem ( together with many other supporters) Looking forward I do believe there would be a demand for a club that offered that little bit extra and, for the class warriors amongst you , it could be renamed. Trying to give the impression of the membership of the PC as you have is just wrong .The paid up membership is just under 200 I have been told ,everything less is just semantics Afternoon gastower, I appreciate that this may be too late, in hindsight, and of course we've all been hoping a move to a new stadium would mean no point in spending on refurbishments. But the PC may have missed a trick by not looking elsewhere around the ground. Those unused buildings hidden away at the north-west of the site could have been converted, or rebuilt, into a clubhouse for the PC. I'm sure the PC members pockets are slightly larger than those of the average fan, and money could have been found within the PC to pay for a refurb. I think there are 2 buildings there and 1 could have become a modest kitchen and toilet area, and the larger building turned into a lounge. There's the possibility the building could have been used on non-matchdays by the PC, for meetings and social events, perhaps even hired out for other events, and there could have been a private entrance installed down the lane off Strathmore Road. I'm sure you could have a capacity of at least 100 in that building, with the possibility of increasing the footprint. OK it's a little walk from the stands, so half-time might be out of the question, but personally I've never felt the need at half-time and it would have been a space for members to meet before and after the game. There was talk of these buildings being turned into a Sensory Area for children with disabilities, so the chance might be lost, but I've not heard anything on that for a while. As you allude to, we are hamstrung for space around the ground with the current stands we have in place. Maybe there is another unused area of the ground that the PC could build their own Clubhouse? Perhaps alongside those disused buildings? If the PC will pay for a building the FC may be open to giving a patch of land. We might even find that certain facilities move to The Quarters and it frees up space for a new PC room at The Mem. What I would say is I hope the PC and SC keep dialogue with the FC as you never know when opportunities may arise in the future. A brand new stadium; an extended East Stand; you may be back in with a shout. I remember in the UWE Stadium plans that the SC were promised a huge bar room behind one end, with views across the pitch. I imagine some provision was also planned for the PC.I think it's healthy to have various clubs within the FC. If people want to meet with like-minded people, have a social occasion, be part of a club, even if it means wearing a tie, or paying a subscription, then I can see no wrong in that, even if I have no wish to be part of it myself. In a way it's no different than a group of mates meeting for a beer in the clubhouse before the game - different 'clubs' for different needs and different tastes. Social Clubs have their own sense of community, a sense of belonging to the football club itself, and part of the reason you go to watch the match in the first place. If we lose clubs like the PC and the SC then sadly the FC loses a part of itself too.
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Post by johnmalyckyj on Aug 24, 2021 17:57:04 GMT
Well I have just spent an interesting 20 minutes on Gaschat, I think we've finally begun to flush out the answer to the long put question "how many members does the Presidents Club have?"
A poster by the name of "poorblue" posted the following
"This is the definitive answer to the simple question, except it was pre pandemic. The Presidents Club has 2 boxes in the West stand, there is a maximum capacity of 15 in each. thus a maximum membership of 30. As I had earlier been invited to become a member I assume the number is below that figure and even possible that only one box is now part of the deal. There was a minibar in the box and a waitress service for other drinks to be brought from the other bar in the West Stand. There was a food package included at each match. The PC had an annual membership fee (£900?) that covers the above.
The BRFC Presidents Club lottery membership is not the PC, it is a lottery (£1250?) that includes everyone a winner for hospitality for 4 people in the West Stand at one match per season and a chance to be a naming sponsor of shirts, shorts and stand naming etc. and is the 200 people confuse the two names. Simples they are different "clubs". The PC and SC have both in the past done much to keep the club alive, not sure where they are at now though"
At long last we have the answer in the first paragraph, which is what I suspected all along (less than 10), it's a bit like the end of the "Wizard of Oz" isn't it? No wonder Knowall didn't want to answer the question. I haven't smoked a cigar for about 15 years, but perhaps a Hamlet is in order this evening.....
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Post by gastower on Aug 24, 2021 18:52:40 GMT
Well I have just spent an interesting 20 minutes on Gaschat, I think we've finally begun to flush out the answer to the long put question "how many members does the Presidents Club have?" A poster by the name of "poorblue" posted the following "This is the definitive answer to the simple question, except it was pre pandemic. The Presidents Club has 2 boxes in the West stand, there is a maximum capacity of 15 in each. thus a maximum membership of 30. As I had earlier been invited to become a member I assume the number is below that figure and even possible that only one box is now part of the deal. There was a minibar in the box and a waitress service for other drinks to be brought from the other bar in the West Stand. There was a food package included at each match. The PC had an annual membership fee (£900?) that covers the above.
The BRFC Presidents Club lottery membership is not the PC, it is a lottery (£1250?) that includes everyone a winner for hospitality for 4 people in the West Stand at one match per season and a chance to be a naming sponsor of shirts, shorts and stand naming etc. and is the 200 people confuse the two names. Simples they are different "clubs". The PC and SC have both in the past done much to keep the club alive, not sure where they are at now though"At long last we have the answer in the first paragraph, which is what I suspected all along (less than 10), it's a bit like the end of the "Wizard of Oz" isn't it? No wonder Knowall didn't want to answer the question. I haven't smoked a cigar for about 15 years, but perhaps a Hamlet is in order this evening..... Regards John Malyckyj John I am really beginning to worry about you,just let it go.The PC DOES NOT have 2 boxes in the west stand end of. Your cigars will have to wait for another day
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Post by johnmalyckyj on Aug 24, 2021 19:28:32 GMT
Well I have just spent an interesting 20 minutes on Gaschat, I think we've finally begun to flush out the answer to the long put question "how many members does the Presidents Club have?" A poster by the name of "poorblue" posted the following "This is the definitive answer to the simple question, except it was pre pandemic. The Presidents Club has 2 boxes in the West stand, there is a maximum capacity of 15 in each. thus a maximum membership of 30. As I had earlier been invited to become a member I assume the number is below that figure and even possible that only one box is now part of the deal. There was a minibar in the box and a waitress service for other drinks to be brought from the other bar in the West Stand. There was a food package included at each match. The PC had an annual membership fee (£900?) that covers the above.
The BRFC Presidents Club lottery membership is not the PC, it is a lottery (£1250?) that includes everyone a winner for hospitality for 4 people in the West Stand at one match per season and a chance to be a naming sponsor of shirts, shorts and stand naming etc. and is the 200 people confuse the two names. Simples they are different "clubs". The PC and SC have both in the past done much to keep the club alive, not sure where they are at now though"At long last we have the answer in the first paragraph, which is what I suspected all along (less than 10), it's a bit like the end of the "Wizard of Oz" isn't it? No wonder Knowall didn't want to answer the question. I haven't smoked a cigar for about 15 years, but perhaps a Hamlet is in order this evening..... Regards John Malyckyj John I am really beginning to worry about you,just let it go.The PC DOES NOT have 2 boxes in the west stand end of. Your cigars will have to wait for another day I didn't think it did have two boxes, that is why I think your true level of membership is less than 10. I am right aren't I?
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Post by irenestoyboy on Aug 24, 2021 19:37:57 GMT
When I go up the entrance of the west stand to my box I swear I pass a box that are named with the PC on the plague.
It seems the members of the PC don’t know what each other has!
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Post by gastower on Aug 24, 2021 20:56:41 GMT
I didn't think it did have two boxes, that is why I think your true level of membership is less than 10. I am right aren't I? After all the information you have been given today you still choose to go down this route it’s really sad I h ave been told you were at the top table while negotiations to sell the club to Mike Turl we’re taking place so clearly you have fallen a long way since. You need to move on,these issues you have with the PC and SC come across as bitterness and that’s not good for your well being
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 21:02:54 GMT
I didn't think it did have two boxes, that is why I think your true level of membership is less than 10. I am right aren't I? After all the information you have been given today you still choose to go down this route it’s really sad I h ave been told you were at the top table while negotiations to sell the club to Mike Turl we’re taking place so clearly you have fallen a long way since. You need to move on,these issues you have with the PC and SC come across as bitterness and that’s not good for your well being At no stage in the clubs history did Mike Turl want to buy the club. Let’s not try to rewrite history.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 24, 2021 21:21:00 GMT
I didn't think it did have two boxes, that is why I think your true level of membership is less than 10. I am right aren't I? After all the information you have been given today you still choose to go down this route it’s really sad I have been told you were at the top table while negotiations to sell the club to Mike Turl we’re taking place so clearly you have fallen a long way since. You need to move on, these issues you have with the PC and SC come across as bitterness and that’s not good for your well being Just goes to show you shouldn't believe everything you hear from your source gastower.....
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Post by johnmalyckyj on Aug 24, 2021 22:54:44 GMT
I didn't think it did have two boxes, that is why I think your true level of membership is less than 10. I am right aren't I? After all the information you have been given today you still choose to go down this route it’s really sad I h ave been told you were at the top table while negotiations to sell the club to Mike Turl we’re taking place so clearly you have fallen a long way since. You need to move on,these issues you have with the PC and SC come across as bitterness and that’s not good for your well being As Kevin says about Mike Turl, that is nonsense. Both the PC and SC have been caught with their pants firmly down by their ankles. I argued more than 12 months ago that the SC should fold and I think I am on the right side of that argument given what has happened. It is the PC that appears bitter. I am quite happy thankyou very much. One other thing, I have never hidden my identity and never traded in tittle-tattle, gossip or "in the know" nonsense peddled by some. Regards John Malyckyj
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Post by gastower on Aug 25, 2021 8:23:21 GMT
After all the information you have been given today you still choose to go down this route it’s really sad I h ave been told you were at the top table while negotiations to sell the club to Mike Turl we’re taking place so clearly you have fallen a long way since. You need to move on,these issues you have with the PC and SC come across as bitterness and that’s not good for your well being As Kevin says about Mike Turl, that is nonsense. Both the PC and SC have been caught with their pants firmly down by their ankles. I argued more than 12 months ago that the SC should fold and I think I am on the right side of that argument given what has happened. It is the PC that appears bitter. I am quite happy thankyou very much. One other thing, I have never hidden my identity and never traded in tittle-tattle, gossip or "in the know" nonsense peddled by some. Regards John Malyckyj For the avoidance of doubt and the sake of clarity the PC does not have any exec boxes in the West Stand.Members of the PC that use the Dunford lounge are seated in the West Stand.Other members make their arrangements independently of the PC. May I say again after all that effort to explain to you about the membership you still carry on with this agenda-- disappointing to say the least
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