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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 16, 2021 13:55:15 GMT
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Post by bloogas on Aug 16, 2021 14:51:05 GMT
Hope it doesn't affect his big move and our windfall from it.
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Post by lostinspace on Aug 16, 2021 17:59:38 GMT
only 9 years ago.!!!... bit like the cricketer a few weeks ago, horse boulting and stable door come to mind,,,, not a good thing but!!
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Post by Angas on Aug 16, 2021 18:10:51 GMT
I do wonder who drags these things up so many years after the event. Have things that were written been noted and saved for the day that person becomes reasonably well known, or do people just go trawling on the off chance they'll come across something.
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Post by bloogas on Aug 16, 2021 18:45:15 GMT
One can't be too PC.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 16, 2021 18:54:11 GMT
Oh f**k off FA and get on with today.
This white,middle class,liberal woke bollocks has got out of hand.
f**k off!
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Post by bloogas on Aug 16, 2021 19:04:40 GMT
Oh f off FA and get on with today. This white,middle class,liberal woke bollocks has got out of hand. f off! You seem like me - watching too many Douglas Murray videos on YouTube. |
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Post by Bath Gas on Aug 16, 2021 19:22:49 GMT
I do wonder who drags these things up so many years after the event. Have things that were written been noted and saved for the day that person becomes reasonably well known, or do people just go trawling on the off chance they'll come across something. I think it's reasonably easy to search for certain words on a person's social media history, search enough blue tick accounts and you'll come up with a few unsavoury ones, I'm sure. It's probably a full-time job for people at certain news agencies. |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 16, 2021 19:25:02 GMT
Oh f off FA and get on with today. This white,middle class,liberal woke bollocks has got out of hand. f off! You seem like me - watching too many Douglas Murray videos on YouTube. Yeh I check out what DM has to say now and again Bloo. Not "too many" though. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 16, 2021 19:28:00 GMT
I think it's unfair to drag something up from years ago and use it against an individual.
If you take minor driving offences, they are spent after a short period of time. The same should apply, especially as what is being touted as a misdemeanor is not a criminal offence.
If it was a criminal offence, the offender would be offered some protection after a period of time elapse if no further offence occurred.
All this is projected without taking notice of context, immaturity, stances different with social media awareness and common sense.
It's all a bit dark when freedoms of speech are challenged... especially when there's nothing of consequence with any party involved.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 16, 2021 19:52:20 GMT
I think it's unfair to drag something up from years ago and use it against an individual. If you take minor driving offences, they are spent after a short period of time. The same should apply, especially as what is being touted as a misdemeanor is not a criminal offence. If it was a criminal offence, the offender would be offered some protection after a period of time elapse if no further offence occurred. All this is projected without taking notice of context, immaturity, stances different with social media awareness and common sense. It's all a bit dark when freedoms of speech are challenged... especially when there's nothing of consequence with any party involved. The issue is that the remarks are still in existence and if you upset someone or someone is looking at you and your background, like another club, they will dig deep. Everyone, famous or not, should occasionally look back over their social media accounts and if, hopefully, their views have matured and become more sensible, delete anything that is offensive or could be misinterpreted. Its not like the old days where people would ring around to find out about a players reputation or views. Its all there on the record. If you don't believe in what you wrote years ago then delete it. Otherwise it stands as a record of your thoughts and ideas. And please don't start on about being woke. If they were racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic, etc. then they will probably be so now. No excuse, get rid! |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 17, 2021 6:26:50 GMT
It really is about time gay professional footballers 'came out'.Well,those that want to.I think a huge majority of UK football fans don't care what people do with their 'plumbing '.
Players coming out would normalise things and the recent situation of eg Liverpool and Derby County fans chanting homophobic stuff would become less,possibly stop.The homophobic would look stupid.
Not to mention,the first professional player to tell the world he's gay could make a fortune.Sell story yo papers tv interviews,a book,a film perhaps.Etc.
I disagree that people can't change and this virtue signalling from the - very high - moral high ground basically means millions of Britons will get caught out for something/anything they may of said or done (how long before thought is added) years before.
You want to check out homophobes in football?
Start with Muslim players.
Don't want to go there,do ya.
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Post by lostinspace on Aug 17, 2021 6:32:42 GMT
Justin Fashanua ,he " came out" over 20 years ago, but seemingly the demons took over his life and unfortunately then took his own life, different era maybe, but it takes ( I would imagine) an awful lot of soul searching to take that step
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Post by baselswh on Aug 17, 2021 6:34:28 GMT
Justin Fashanua ,he " came out" over 20 years ago, but seemingly the demons took over his life and unfortunately then took his own life, different era maybe, but it takes ( I would imagine) an awful lot of soul searching to take that step Was he still playing in GB when he came out LIS? |
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Post by lostinspace on Aug 17, 2021 7:10:21 GMT
Justin Fashanua ,he " came out" over 20 years ago, but seemingly the demons took over his life and unfortunately then took his own life, different era maybe, but it takes ( I would imagine) an awful lot of soul searching to take that step Was he still playing in GB when he came out LIS? Apparently clubs he played for were aware of his situation and it was late in his career that he actually announced that he was gay |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 17, 2021 7:17:30 GMT
Was he still playing in GB when he came out LIS? Apparently clubs he played for were aware of his situation and it was late in his career that he actually announced that he was gay Okay.'Coming out' but not quite 'coming out out',as Micky Flanagan might say. A tragic story Justin's,at least the latter part. |
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Aug 17, 2021 7:33:18 GMT
Clough called him disgusting. Or a word to that effect.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 17, 2021 7:40:22 GMT
Clough called him disgusting. Or a word to that effect. So I'm supposed to hate Brian Clough now am I? Don't get your point CPB? |
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Aug 17, 2021 8:57:00 GMT
Clough called him disgusting. Or a word to that effect. So I'm supposed to hate Brian Clough now am I? Don't get your point CPB? In that case you'd have to hate the majority of people of his generation. LGBT rights have only really become established through the UN since WW2, and it's still a battle. But I put my faith in the "woke" people who dedicate their time to eradicating such injustices. |
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 17, 2021 9:25:20 GMT
Clough called him disgusting. Or a word to that effect. So I'm supposed to hate Brian Clough now am I? Don't get your point CPB? I don't think anyone is asking you to 'hate' Bas. Just to consider that some language and attitudes that were "OK" in the 70/80's, are not acceptable now. I am not a snowflake. |
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